[Miss Mad Scientist]

Hi Bettie!

I have PCOS too, and I don't use herbs either. I take Bovine Ovary: Raw Ovarian Glandulars. 
(Which is technically not a herb but dried ovaries from a cow).

They really help with crazy NBE growth (even without noogling) and also with the PCOS symptoms too! I think I might use this stuff in lower dose once I am done with NBE, just for my health.
Another girl who also has PCOS also takes the same BO as me, she also has great results on her health, appearance and breasts.
BO with girls who have PCOS really seem to work I have noticed, with NBE and overal health. I think it is because our own ovaries don't work as they should, and we are giving our bodies the extra ovary hormones it needs.

I don't take PM. And I think hops is very weak in estrogen amount, I don't know about the other one though.

Yeah I thought I would just share my ideas on this. I think it especially might work now that I know that you have PCOS, I assume you are doing everything right with noogling. It might just be the hormones. Really recommend trying!

And you say you took one BCP that didn't work. You know there are many types of BCP with different hormones in them? Also different amounts of estrogen?
If supplements are not an option, you can always talk to your doctor ir look online about the different options there

Hope that it works out love! xxX

Thank you for your reply, Miss Ellen! Yes, many years ago I took a light BCP (with estrogen and progesterone). Apparently it was very light so no wonder it didn't lead to any growth. I did also try a strong BCP though and got terrifying side effects. I decided not to take BCPs anymore.

As for BO, it's incredible that you've grown so much taking it! Personally, I don't feel comfortable about it, or taking anything animal-related. I know herbs also aren't necessarily safe...kinda difficult to find something that doesn't cause adverse side effects. 

I also think hops might not be very strong since I'm not seeing anything but many sources claim that it's one of the strongest phytoestrogens (along with PM) so I don't know what to believe!! I'm taking a rather low dose because of the side effects. I'll give it some more time....I'm also taking EPO (many women lack good fats) so we'll see...

Thank you again hun. I took a look at your profile and your growth is very inspiring! I wish I could take flaxseeds the way you did in your method but I get acne from them for some reason! :-( 

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Hey Bettie Love! Yeah no worries, never take anything you are not comfortable with!

As a last resort, you can look your sodium intake. People who undergo surgery are advised to be on a low sodium diet, so that there will not be much tissue swelling. So you could try maybe to reverse that and apply for noogling, since swelling is desired. Maybe drink a soup 15/30 mins before you noogle? Or just add a little salt to a cup of water and stirr. 
Be mindfull of your own health and blood pressure though! If you are overweight, or have any heart conditions, please don't try this haha

Well that was all I can think of. Hope this one fits you better.

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