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Hi zara! I can't believe you responded to me and also with such depth!! I have always read your post and congratulations on your growth ! 

thanks for the reminder, originally, I saw maca as a hormonal balancer but it raises testosterone and saw palmetto as testosterone decreaser. now after research, saw palmetto: "Beta-sitosterol is a natural alpha-adrenergic receptor blocker. Specifically, it prevents a degraded form of testosterone called dihydrotestosterone from accumulating. The plant steroids in saw palmetto also act on progesterone receptors, an action that causes a reduction in estrogen levels" so yes, pm taken together with saw sounds like a cancellation. but for maca, information seems confusing, some says it raises testosterone, some says it only works by releasing chemicals and nutrients that sends message to the pituitary gland, which tells the body how much of each hormone to produce, but i get the point that it would interfere with pm if i take it at the same time! makes complete sense.

thank you thank you thank you so much for reaffirming me the progress of growing, that luteal swelling is normal and losing it during funicular is normal and i should be patient with all. it really gives me a big relieve. you have no idea how much it helps ti get that out of my mind !!

i am thinking of switching to siriporn after finishing it, opening the capsule does get messy now...

will try your milk thistle during period and vitex in small amounts and measurements advise! as you are getting success from that i seee!! lets see whether it works for me.

Thanks so much again zara for all the advises, you are very kind

No problem, at all, Tata! I love to be able to share and help when I can. Thank you so much for the congratulations!!<3

Maca confused me too at first with all the conflicting information. For the most part, I now only take it during my detox days in the form of my turmeric tea. Occassionally, I will also have it during luteal. But yeah, I think during follicular the only thing you should really be taking is PM to avoid anything interfering with the effects of it. Nothing else is needed during follicular unless you want to add an aromatase like spearmint tea/caps. 

I'm glad that I could help ease your mind about luteal swelling and the process of growth. That seems to be a big one that many women struggle with (it fooled me too in the beginning). Just make sure you're documenting your progress properly on the same day and take pictures because being able to visually see the changes in your breasts is a great motivator and helps loads as you're trying to figure out what works and what doesn't. I've only been on PM for four cycles now and I've definitely had success with Siriporn so I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. 

I hope your program works for you and do keep us updated on your changes! 

Happy growing!! <3

Xoxo