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Brava results photos
November 23 2008 at 3:29 PM roakie (Login roakie)
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I have been looking through past posts on this forum and have seen reference to personal picture pages for Brava results, but when I search the program and photo pages, I find nothing. One post I just read referenced photo results by Tweety(shannon) and Nicole, but I can't find anything. The only actual photos I have seen are from Diana1978, but she is no longer posting on here so I can't ask her any follow-up questions.
Does anyone here using Brava know of any photo progressions from this forum? We seem to be the only group that can testify to success, yet there is nothing concrete to look at for inspiration!
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Brava results photos November 24 2008, 12:09 PM
I did find a website (this summer sometime, before I began cycle 3) and i thought someone in this site recommended it, but I have no idea what it was. (bad memory!) It was pages and pages of before and after pictures of women who were in a brava study, and it showed the measurments they began at, etc. It was very motivating, so I wish I could remember it for you! All the women had significant growth...not like implants, of course, but they looked at least one size fuller and larger. Some, (who probably used the system for longer) grew more.
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava results photos November 24 2008, 2:16 PM
I can't understand why the Brava website only has a link to the study "abstract" which cannot be accessed fully without a subscription to the journal. Also, their site only has two or three pictures of women who have used Brava. This does not seem to be the way to promote a promote or instill confidence. I have tried to find a link to the fully study but cannot seem to access it anywhere.
No other women on our own forum besides those I have mentioned have posted pictures, huh? I would trust them more. (Of course, I understand why women don't. I don't know that I would want to, either. But maybe in a tight tank top I will!)
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Brava results photos November 24 2008, 4:10 PM
I agree....the Brava website doesn't do much to invoke confidence....they have had the same 7 or 8 stories and pictures for years.....the same ones since the first time I began Brava (like 4 years ago) It seems like no one new has used Brava or had success. When I first bought Brava they offered to give you a check for $500 if you sent in a photo with your story (before and after pics) I thought my story and photo were pretty motivating but they did send the money and never used my story. What gives? I would think they would post whatever positive experiences they can. There are several blogs out there that are VERY negative about Brava.....almost no success and lots of disappointment and angry women who had no growth at all. If I had read those before deciding to use Brava I would NEVER have bought it and would have concluded it was a complete sham. I would have missed out on the best thing I ever did to change my body. (granted, the most uncomfortable thing I have ever done, but I am looking at the big picture!) Unfortunately, even though I know it is the best way to see progress, I didn't take photos of myself this time when I began. I was too afraid that the picture would get downloaded into the computer and then who knows what would happen (my daughter is constantly borrowing my digital camera and sending photos out) and it isn't like I am going to take a pic on my old camera and bring it into the photo shop and have someone develop it....how humiliating and how exactly do you explain that you aren't a pervert????? So, I try to use bras that I wore a lot before Brava (that I knew how roomy they fit) and chart my progress that way. I try several different ones on at the end of each month....at first they fit better, then they fit well, then they are almost too small. It is so exciting and makes the aggrevation of brava worth it!!!
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Livinonaprayer
(no login) Re: Brava results photos November 24 2008, 6:52 PM
www.bravaresults.com
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava results photos November 25 2008, 3:03 PM
Thanks for that link. I had a look. I wish they said what the time frame was for the "after" pictures. Boy - on the majority of the photos, I saw very little difference. Maybe it is hard to tell from a photo. I hope I more visible results than that.
It is very encouraging to read the positive results from Stacy, Louise, and some others on this forum. I don't know if I would try Brava if I simply looked at the photos on that brava results link.
I wish we could have one long thread to support each other. I am so afraid I will lose all of this when I stop. Of course, I realize I am taking a BIG chance on losing it all during this 6-week trial, and then leaving for 8 days. I am determined to get the 700 hours in before I go by doing this as intensively as possible. However, since I see most of the results disappear after 5 hours at this point, I doubt I will have such early success. But, I will try.
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dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: Brava results photos November 27 2008, 6:36 AM
i actually thought that some of the brava photos looked really good - i think we are lucky if we get those kinds of results...the brava system is not like implants at all its really for modest growth
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STacyEllen
(no login) Re: Brava results photos November 27 2008, 5:34 PM
I agree...I thought the results were great considering that this is a slow process and isn't dramatic like implants. We know when we start it will be a subtle change.
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava results photos November 28 2008, 3:01 PM
I'm sorry if I sounded discouraging. I think the numerical volume results indicated are more encouraging than some of the photos, though others look quite different in size.
Of course, I am looking at pictures of women who already started out with some breasts! Since I am starting out with nothing, even a small bump would be of great, great encouragement. And it is really hard to look at photos of others as opposed to seeing results on yourself. Knowing your breasts so intimately from every angle (as we all seem to do) means that even a tablespoon of additional growth is appreciated.
Again, I apologize if I sounded negative. I am so thankful and encouraged by any and all help from the women on this forum. As I said, I find far more encouragement and "way to go" kudos from all of you than I do from the promotional items on the Brava site. I wish they would at least publish the full research from their clinical trials. And, I wish they would record when the second photo of results was taken. Was it the next day, or a year from stopping Brava?
That just bugs me. But I am a researcher by occupation so I guess it shows a lack of desire to promote useful information and it makes me question why Brava doesn't do everything they can to promote the potential good results that can be had from their product.
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BooBoo
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava results photos November 28 2008, 3:59 PM
Well, as far as the when is concerned, they tate in their trial data: "Final recordings were obtained at least one month after cessation of treatment only after unchanged breast volume measurements two weeks apart confirmed stable enlargement."
Concerning the amount they grew, remember that most of them only did a single, average length cycle. So what you may achieve with additional time could vary greatly.
November 23 2008 at 3:29 PM roakie (Login roakie)
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I have been looking through past posts on this forum and have seen reference to personal picture pages for Brava results, but when I search the program and photo pages, I find nothing. One post I just read referenced photo results by Tweety(shannon) and Nicole, but I can't find anything. The only actual photos I have seen are from Diana1978, but she is no longer posting on here so I can't ask her any follow-up questions.
Does anyone here using Brava know of any photo progressions from this forum? We seem to be the only group that can testify to success, yet there is nothing concrete to look at for inspiration!
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Brava results photos November 24 2008, 12:09 PM
I did find a website (this summer sometime, before I began cycle 3) and i thought someone in this site recommended it, but I have no idea what it was. (bad memory!) It was pages and pages of before and after pictures of women who were in a brava study, and it showed the measurments they began at, etc. It was very motivating, so I wish I could remember it for you! All the women had significant growth...not like implants, of course, but they looked at least one size fuller and larger. Some, (who probably used the system for longer) grew more.
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava results photos November 24 2008, 2:16 PM
I can't understand why the Brava website only has a link to the study "abstract" which cannot be accessed fully without a subscription to the journal. Also, their site only has two or three pictures of women who have used Brava. This does not seem to be the way to promote a promote or instill confidence. I have tried to find a link to the fully study but cannot seem to access it anywhere.
No other women on our own forum besides those I have mentioned have posted pictures, huh? I would trust them more. (Of course, I understand why women don't. I don't know that I would want to, either. But maybe in a tight tank top I will!)
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Brava results photos November 24 2008, 4:10 PM
I agree....the Brava website doesn't do much to invoke confidence....they have had the same 7 or 8 stories and pictures for years.....the same ones since the first time I began Brava (like 4 years ago) It seems like no one new has used Brava or had success. When I first bought Brava they offered to give you a check for $500 if you sent in a photo with your story (before and after pics) I thought my story and photo were pretty motivating but they did send the money and never used my story. What gives? I would think they would post whatever positive experiences they can. There are several blogs out there that are VERY negative about Brava.....almost no success and lots of disappointment and angry women who had no growth at all. If I had read those before deciding to use Brava I would NEVER have bought it and would have concluded it was a complete sham. I would have missed out on the best thing I ever did to change my body. (granted, the most uncomfortable thing I have ever done, but I am looking at the big picture!) Unfortunately, even though I know it is the best way to see progress, I didn't take photos of myself this time when I began. I was too afraid that the picture would get downloaded into the computer and then who knows what would happen (my daughter is constantly borrowing my digital camera and sending photos out) and it isn't like I am going to take a pic on my old camera and bring it into the photo shop and have someone develop it....how humiliating and how exactly do you explain that you aren't a pervert????? So, I try to use bras that I wore a lot before Brava (that I knew how roomy they fit) and chart my progress that way. I try several different ones on at the end of each month....at first they fit better, then they fit well, then they are almost too small. It is so exciting and makes the aggrevation of brava worth it!!!
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Livinonaprayer
(no login) Re: Brava results photos November 24 2008, 6:52 PM
www.bravaresults.com
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava results photos November 25 2008, 3:03 PM
Thanks for that link. I had a look. I wish they said what the time frame was for the "after" pictures. Boy - on the majority of the photos, I saw very little difference. Maybe it is hard to tell from a photo. I hope I more visible results than that.
It is very encouraging to read the positive results from Stacy, Louise, and some others on this forum. I don't know if I would try Brava if I simply looked at the photos on that brava results link.
I wish we could have one long thread to support each other. I am so afraid I will lose all of this when I stop. Of course, I realize I am taking a BIG chance on losing it all during this 6-week trial, and then leaving for 8 days. I am determined to get the 700 hours in before I go by doing this as intensively as possible. However, since I see most of the results disappear after 5 hours at this point, I doubt I will have such early success. But, I will try.
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dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: Brava results photos November 27 2008, 6:36 AM
i actually thought that some of the brava photos looked really good - i think we are lucky if we get those kinds of results...the brava system is not like implants at all its really for modest growth
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STacyEllen
(no login) Re: Brava results photos November 27 2008, 5:34 PM
I agree...I thought the results were great considering that this is a slow process and isn't dramatic like implants. We know when we start it will be a subtle change.
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava results photos November 28 2008, 3:01 PM
I'm sorry if I sounded discouraging. I think the numerical volume results indicated are more encouraging than some of the photos, though others look quite different in size.
Of course, I am looking at pictures of women who already started out with some breasts! Since I am starting out with nothing, even a small bump would be of great, great encouragement. And it is really hard to look at photos of others as opposed to seeing results on yourself. Knowing your breasts so intimately from every angle (as we all seem to do) means that even a tablespoon of additional growth is appreciated.
Again, I apologize if I sounded negative. I am so thankful and encouraged by any and all help from the women on this forum. As I said, I find far more encouragement and "way to go" kudos from all of you than I do from the promotional items on the Brava site. I wish they would at least publish the full research from their clinical trials. And, I wish they would record when the second photo of results was taken. Was it the next day, or a year from stopping Brava?
That just bugs me. But I am a researcher by occupation so I guess it shows a lack of desire to promote useful information and it makes me question why Brava doesn't do everything they can to promote the potential good results that can be had from their product.
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BooBoo
(Login Boo_Boo_Bear)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava results photos November 28 2008, 3:59 PM
Well, as far as the when is concerned, they tate in their trial data: "Final recordings were obtained at least one month after cessation of treatment only after unchanged breast volume measurements two weeks apart confirmed stable enlargement."
Concerning the amount they grew, remember that most of them only did a single, average length cycle. So what you may achieve with additional time could vary greatly.