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Can someone teach me how to cycle PM?
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(27-02-2019, 02:48)Bonny Wrote:  I found this; thought it may interest you!

Its a conversation between a biochemist Passwater and Dr Gordon who is president of American College for Advancement in Medicine (ACAM) and has other credentials (you can read them at the top of script).  It's an interesting read and has talk about dosages in there!  As well as week off during menses as Thai tradition tells 'young women' to have a week off. As well as traditional preparations. 

http://drpasswater.com/nutrition_library/gordon_2%281%29.htm

And this; the reply is from from Dr. Sandy Schwartz, the world leader in Pueraria science (i've tried to reserach Schwartz before but could never find additional information on him and PM)

https://alternative-doctor.com/body-stuff/pueraria-mirifica-big-breasts-are-great-but/

Gordon: In an earlier Phase 1 safety study, conducted by this research group in 2000 and involving ten women, it was found that, when taking 50 mg/day and 100 mg/day of PM, none of the women suffered estrogenic side effects including dysfunctional uterine bleeding, irregular menstruation or breast tenderness. The study concluded that the blood biochemistry tests established the safety of the PM. Of course, this is only a small phase-one study, and in a larger population you always expect individual differences in tolerances of anything, as well as optimal dosage, which is largely dependent on body weight. In other words, individual results may vary and any herb should be discontinued if adverse effects are noted.

I always suggest monitoring blood pressure and being alert for vaginal discharge or bleeding.

Gordon: 2 mg / kg body weight. For the first month that level can be doubled. So a 150-pound woman would require 136 mg of PM / day, but could take, without any problem, 272 mg (or 3 pills / day). Most women will see relief of symptoms in a week or less. The Phase I and the Phase II trials in Thailand were on Asian women, who are normally smaller than Western women, so the dosages they used were small, compared what Western women might need. A convenient and effective regimen for American women of menopausal age would be to take 80 mg of PM twice a day.

Gordon: I assume you’re talking about the craze that swept the Internet, promising larger breasts in just two days. This was taken from the true story about PM enlarging breasts by a full cup size in Japan. More than a decade ago, Japanese cosmetic companies flocked to Thailand to purchase “PM” to mix in creams and to be taken orally. After some time, they sought lower and lower prices. The end result was that the wildcrafters simply mixed in less expensive species. Some Thai wildcrafters are eighth generation. They know the market value of real PM. The original breast enhancement study was done in Tokyo by Japanese Prof. Kuramoshi and Thai Assoc. Prof. Yuthana Smitasiri. They showed that 72% of women taking PM exhibited significant increases in breast size. Younger women had a markedly higher rate of success than older women, who lowered the overall success rate. Some years ago, a company in California launched ISIS, a system using real PM. They guaranteed success or your money back and had 96% satisfied customers, not asking for their money back.


Gordon:  Well, if PM only relieved problems associated with menopause, within a week, it would already be a miracle, but there will soon be studies to show many more significant benefits from PM. One health benefit, I have already stated earlier, is that in the regions where PM grows, they have the lowest breast cancer rate in the world. Their breast cancer incidence is even 40% lower than Japan, where they consume the highest level of phytoestrogens in their daily diet (Please see Table 2 in Part 1). It’s less than 10% of the United States rate. In addition, cell culture studies show that PM is anti-cancer to estrogen-sensitive breast cancer cells. It’s even beneficial for men.


. Adding PM to that formula, we find, acts synergistically so that even the most difficult change of life issues that until now nothing has helped, are responding, often within two-to-four weeks. Therefore, I think PM should be combined with B-12 and folic acid.

“Bonny what a fascinating article and I’m thinking “solgar Pueraria Mirifica which has b12 and folic acid AND only 80mg pm root with the miroestrol and isoflanaoids” is a good bet huh? Plus I got this from this famous hormone doctor also begining with S she has world renowned books also claims solgar s PM is grown from the right region. 

This article highlights everything I’ve read/believe about PM esp doses . Now having 2 bottles of solgars PM at home and being in perimenopause I think il try that instead. My Siam has a much Higher dosage Of 193mg but my weight “63”kgs dictates I’d need around 130mgs ...

BONNY please post this article in the PM section. I’ve seen SOOO MANY girls over the years end up with breakthrough bleeding and double periods AND BREAST LUMPS cause they take 500-2000mgs of PM a day. The above clearly stAtes if you take the recommendation dosage of 2mg per kg body weight you avoid these problems which is what I suggested to Goldengoddess , this is what an actual legitimate pharmacy will suggest. The naysayers will argue with this but I’ve actually been here 5-6 years and I’ve seen them come and go trust me. 
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