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Im sorry but I sorta feel it wrong of you as just a straight cis male to be telling this girl that clearly struggles with major body issues and BDD that she "SHOULD focus on her breasts" SHOULD "focus on nbe" and that "breasts do matter" when clearly she needs to be focusing on her mental wellbeing first and foremost, as you are a straight male saying this it is coming off very sexist inclined and with no interest into her true wellbeing. Just MO. Yes big boobs are great I love mine but they are pointless if your mental health is suffering and also a woman is A LOT more than a pair of breasts.

I don’t want to get sucked into an argument that doesn’t even involve me, but I think he was very careful about what he said. I agree with what he said and I’m a woman. Why should it matter which one of us said it? I don’t really like my appearance but I don’t have body dysmorphia, so I can’t help her as much as someone who has actually overcome it. We are all just trying to help because she seems so distressed. Maybe we’re going about in the wrong way, but we are not psychologists.

Also no "arguing" here on my end simply pointing out the richness of the comment and that she needs help to love herself not be told "yes great you dont like yourself and are suffering with an all over self love issue, keep focusing on nbe put that first" women are more than boobs and theres no point improving a body part if you have underlying issues which will likely be there after still. I know her pain BDD and self love issues suck and can leave you feeling constantly defeated.

He didn’t say to put NBE first. He very clearly said that she should put it last, and prioritize more important things. Granted, maybe it would be in her best interest not to do NBE at all, but she has decided to do it anyway, and she’s an adult. I don’t mean  to attack you. That’s not what’s intended, but I do want to defend Joe, because he’s been pretty damn helpful throughout the years and he’s been respectful about it as well.

All good.... Maybe it just came across wrong to me. A misunderstanding on my part. I am just very defensive of those who are vulnerable with mental health as again I know the struggle all too well and its painful. All in all I hope she finds peace with herself and sees just how amazing and unique she is!  " alt="" title=""> its great to improve on yourself physically but the mind should be put first and foremost because if the mind isnt clear and healthy the body cant truly be focused on.

First time posting here. See if this works right... Remember all, Texting is not the same as talking, please read carefully... "quotation marks" should be used to copy and paste citations and only.... He said/she said "quote....." is acceptable. If your not sure what someone else says, then ask questions before making assertions... I am coming on this forum to gain incite, knowledge, and understanding. I take nutrition very serious. From the brief 10 hours or so I have read from various threads, please consider yourself lucky if Surfer Joe is kind enough to reply as he is busy as we all are with our lives. He is a gentleman and a scholar, I totally agree with his threads and I'm not going to quote them, but do yourself a favor and read his knowledge. Now as someone who has taught physics and calculus, this doesnt mean you will understand his writings immediately and thats ok, get a dictionary and try to understand the meanings as difficult as they may be, because I tell you ask any Scientist the exact weight of a proton or neutron and depending upon the country they were taught in, they will tell you a different but yet similar number. So keep an open mind. There is a wealth of information on this site. Research the guy who invented the "acid battery." In 1860, the Frenchman Gaston Planté (1834–1889) He was ridiculed and dang near failed his Doctorate Thesis paper with a D- grade because he didnt follow modern Chemistry and was shunned upon by the science community. It wasnt until 20 or so ish years later that they gave him the nobel award and credit he deserved as he was correct.(which didnt do him much good as he was an old man then) So again keep an open mind and write down a journal of your diet, exercise, location, everything as you venture into NBE land. I have studied so much in my day, I think its unfair for me to judge this situation and frankly, Its hard for anyone to judge without being there. I can tell you about my own pathetic, miserable life. My parents divorced at age 6, my grandma died when I was 12, I had a ruptured disc in spine at age 21, lost more jobs than i can remember offhand, put myself through college, and many pitfalls that life throws you, but if you just pick yourself up (cause who going to do that for you when your in the situations we are in these days?) and take one deep breath and one small foot forward, your going to get somewhere. Over time, it will add up to something great. Well, then, do take care~.