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This past week has been interesting! There was nothing new to report until New Years Eve. The day before, I was playing with the Shiatsu Massage pillow my fiance had received as a Christmas gift. As I was using it on my neck I thought to myself, "Hmmm... circular massaging motion, don't have to use my hands... I wonder how this would work as a breast massager?" So of course I had to try it. It gives a pretty deep intense massage so I only used it for a total of maybe 2 or 3 minutes on each breast. The next day I was SORE. Didn't think much of it and figured it was just the muscle being sore from the intense massage. But later that night when I went out to dinner with my family I started feeling lots of tingles and pains, especially in my right breast (the smaller one and the one I'm trying to concentrate more massage on). It was exactly how I felt when I was on PM and had the little bit of growth. I was so excited!

But then I was an idiot and drank a little that night. Had a few drinks of a dark beer and 3 glasses of champagne. Then the next night I was under a TON of stress (personal problems), was crying, got no sleep that night, not eating, felt like total crap. So I don't know how much of an effect that may have had on progress I was making. The stress issue is getting resolved and I'm eating well again.

On New Years Day I decided to measure to see if what I'd felt resulted in any changes. Lo and behold I was measuring a 1/4" increase! This was before the major stress episode so I figured that it was probably gone. Just measured again today and it's still there! In fact a few times it even showed 1/2" growth but not as consistantly so I'm going with the 1/4". I do see more fullness. My left breast is looking pretty awesome but the right one is still quite a bit smaller. I hope the difference between the two doesn't get any bigger!

The confusing part is that when that happened I hadn't been taking consistant dosages of the WU. For a couple days I'd take 4, then I'd start with 6 again... I just don't know how many I should take! I feel stuff when I'm taking 4 but I still feel it when I'm taking 6. If I could get away with taking 4 I'd much rather but I also don't want to waste a month or two taking 4 and not getting any results because I should be taking 6!

I should note that I'm also not completely sure whether what happened was due to the massager or not. I tried using it once a day since and those feelings haven't returned. I'm still feeling what I was before which is good, but I don't have that extra stuff going on. Another interesting thing to note is that I think that this happened with the WU at the exact same time it did when I was on PM. I'd been on it for just short of two weeks when I had that little bit of growth. After that nothing happened with it. So I hope that doesn't happen with WU!

I'm not at home right now but I will take the rest of my measurements and enter them when I get there. I haven't added anything new to my program. Keep meaning to start up with the protein shakes again but just haven't yet. Haven't even been consistant with the Carnation Instant Breakfast. Sad And I missed a couple massages during the stressful times. I really need to figure out which dosage of WU I'm going to stick with.
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Unread postJan 05, 2008#6
Quote:I'm getting tired of editing the same post over and over again so I'm just going to get this going!! I will consider the massages I've been doing as the beginning of my program while I'm waiting to begin my WU!

GOAL: My goal is to gain back the firmness I lost while nursing my son and to increase in size! I'm basically the same size I was before nursing but am much more saggy and have stretchmarks on my breasts. My goal is to become a full B cup but I would also be happy just being a full A.

BACKGROUND: I rarely drink caffeine. I'd say on average I drink maybe 4 pops a month and might have a cappuccino in there in too. I can go without both. My two weaknesses are chocolate and ice cream! But I can also cut back on those a lot. Don't smoke, rarely drink and if I do it's not much. Not on any form of birth control. Was diagnosed with cervical dysplasia after I had my son 2 1/2 years ago. Had it treated with cryotheraphy and have been fine since. (Kind of personal but feel it could be beneficial to others in my situation to see how NBE can affect that.) I don't eat the best. Really need to work on eating healthier, more NBE friendly foods. Also don't get much exercise other than what I get walking back and forth at work and chasing after my son! He sure keeps me busy. I always drink lots of water which is good! Stress level in my life is pretty high right now but am confident that that will taper off soon. I am very, very small. Short, very tiny frame, and low weight (even more so since taking PM). Hands and feet are usually cold and my body temperature is usually on the lower side of normal.

Program started on 12-14.

STATS:
Age: 24
Height: 5 ft 1/2"
Weight: 84 pounds (lost about 10 pounds while on PM, have gained a few back so far)
Children: One, nursed for 6 months
Current bra size: 32AA/32A depending on brand
Bra size while nursing: 32/34C

CURRENT MEASUREMENTS:
Above: 29 1/4"
Fullest: 29 1/4"
Under: 26 1/2"
L Breast: 6"
R Breast: 5 3/4"

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Starting up with massage 2x daily using Femagis and applying heat before and after. Also began taking a Borage/Fish/FSO combo pill 2x a day. (Contains 400mg of each.) Will start taking 3x a day tomorrow. I'd run out of my regular borage oil and went to Target to see if they had any. All they had was the combo pill. So far it's been giving me a couple icky side-effects... may have to switch back to what I was using before. Fish oil has never really agreed with me very well. Have been having a few random pains here and there.

12-17:
Stiilllll no AF. This is getting pretty frustrating and I don't like my cycle being off so much. I'm honestly not even sure if I'm going to get a period at all this cycle. For several days I was having some light cramping but that's stopped. Nipples are sensitive so I guess there's still some hope.

Ordered a bottle of WU cream yesterday and got an email today saying it's been shipped. Keeping my fingers crossed that I get it before Christmas! If I can't take the pills I could at least do the massages.

Also, took out the Borage/Fish/FSO combo pill. Made me feel horrible. Bought the same stuff I used before and am doing fine.

Weighed myself today and am 84 pounds. Not so good. My appetite is back to normal but I'm having problems gaining the weight back. Really need to bring that up.

12-19:
Added one Gingko Biloba capsule today. Taking mainly for reasons not related to NBE at this point. Will stop taking it once I start WU since it already has it in there. Will be adding Ginseng in a couple days (again, at this point for non-NBE related purposes right now) and most likely St. John's Wort soon after. Breasts were a little sore when I woke up this morning so I'm hoping AF is on its way. I sure have the moodiness indicating it.
Here are my new measurements! I was thrilled to see the results! These are after 2 weeks and 3 days of being on WU:

Above: 29 1/4" (same)
Fullest: 29 3/4" (1/2" increase!)
Under: 26 1/4" (1/4" decrease)

So yay! Sometimes when I measure the fullest part I even get 30" but more consistantly the 29 3/4" so I'm going with that. I can tell they look and feel fuller but I'm not really fitting into my bras much differently. Sadly all the bras I own have always been too big, even with padding. So it'll be a feat in itself just to fill out the bras I already have. lol Really makes me realize though that if I can gain a half an inch and STILL not see much of a difference, I've really got a lot of growing to do before I reach a B cup! But I'm going to stay optimistic and positive! Smile

ETA: Bought some Mother's Milk tea today and had one cup. Was thinking that this might help boost things along if I'm only taking 4 WU pills. I loved the taste but it's made me very gassy and my stomach feels pretty icky. I definitely won't be drinking more than one cup per day! The box only contained 16 tea bags and I'm not sure if I'll continue after it's gone because of its effects. I'd rather take the extra WU!
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Unread postJan 08, 2008#7
Quote:I'm getting tired of editing the same post over and over again so I'm just going to get this going!! I will consider the massages I've been doing as the beginning of my program while I'm waiting to begin my WU!

GOAL: My goal is to gain back the firmness I lost while nursing my son and to increase in size! I'm basically the same size I was before nursing but am much more saggy and have stretchmarks on my breasts. My goal is to become a full B cup but I would also be happy just being a full A.

BACKGROUND: I rarely drink caffeine. I'd say on average I drink maybe 4 pops a month and might have a cappuccino in there in too. I can go without both. My two weaknesses are chocolate and ice cream! But I can also cut back on those a lot. Don't smoke, rarely drink and if I do it's not much. Not on any form of birth control. Was diagnosed with cervical dysplasia after I had my son 2 1/2 years ago. Had it treated with cryotheraphy and have been fine since. (Kind of personal but feel it could be beneficial to others in my situation to see how NBE can affect that.) I don't eat the best. Really need to work on eating healthier, more NBE friendly foods. Also don't get much exercise other than what I get walking back and forth at work and chasing after my son! He sure keeps me busy. I always drink lots of water which is good! Stress level in my life is pretty high right now but am confident that that will taper off soon. I am very, very small. Short, very tiny frame, and low weight (even more so since taking PM). Hands and feet are usually cold and my body temperature is usually on the lower side of normal.

Program started on 12-14.

STATS:
Age: 24
Height: 5 ft 1/2"
Weight: 84 pounds (lost about 10 pounds while on PM, have gained a few back so far)
Children: One, nursed for 6 months
Current bra size: 32AA/32A depending on brand
Bra size while nursing: 32/34C

CURRENT MEASUREMENTS:
Above: 29 1/4"
Fullest: 29 1/4"
Under: 26 1/2"
L Breast: 6"
R Breast: 5 3/4"

****************

Starting up with massage 2x daily using Femagis and applying heat before and after. Also began taking a Borage/Fish/FSO combo pill 2x a day. (Contains 400mg of each.) Will start taking 3x a day tomorrow. I'd run out of my regular borage oil and went to Target to see if they had any. All they had was the combo pill. So far it's been giving me a couple icky side-effects... may have to switch back to what I was using before. Fish oil has never really agreed with me very well. Have been having a few random pains here and there.

12-17:
Stiilllll no AF. This is getting pretty frustrating and I don't like my cycle being off so much. I'm honestly not even sure if I'm going to get a period at all this cycle. For several days I was having some light cramping but that's stopped. Nipples are sensitive so I guess there's still some hope.

Ordered a bottle of WU cream yesterday and got an email today saying it's been shipped. Keeping my fingers crossed that I get it before Christmas! If I can't take the pills I could at least do the massages.

Also, took out the Borage/Fish/FSO combo pill. Made me feel horrible. Bought the same stuff I used before and am doing fine.

Weighed myself today and am 84 pounds. Not so good. My appetite is back to normal but I'm having problems gaining the weight back. Really need to bring that up.

12-19:
Added one Gingko Biloba capsule today. Taking mainly for reasons not related to NBE at this point. Will stop taking it once I start WU since it already has it in there. Will be adding Ginseng in a couple days (again, at this point for non-NBE related purposes right now) and most likely St. John's Wort soon after. Breasts were a little sore when I woke up this morning so I'm hoping AF is on its way. I sure have the moodiness indicating it.
* Probably not going to try the Mother's Milk tea again. It made my stomach feel so horrible that I don't think it's worth the potential boost in results. Since I can't decide whether to take 4 or 6 WU tabs I might just try 5, making it 2 tabs in the AM, 1 in the afternoon, and 2 at night.
* Will probably start taking a low dose of nettle root.
* Going to order the Herbal Magic deodorant this week.
* Might order some more PM cream to use along with the WU cream. I like the WU cream but it doesn't seem to firm my skin as well as the PM cream did. That's also important to me since I'm a little saggy and the stretch marks on my breasts just make that worse. I think I looked more uplifted with the PM cream.
* Started a different type of massage on my right (smaller) breast. I do what I think was described as "the claw" on one of the massage pages where I spread my fingers and place my hand on my breast with my fingers spread out on it, avoiding the nipple. I then move my breast around in a chi massage motion. I don't actually rub my hand across the skin, just lift my breast, up, around, and in, in a chi motion. I've only done it twice and my breast is already a little more sore and I seem to feel more going on inside it after the massage.
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Unread postJan 11, 2008#8
Quote:I'm getting tired of editing the same post over and over again so I'm just going to get this going!! I will consider the massages I've been doing as the beginning of my program while I'm waiting to begin my WU!

GOAL: My goal is to gain back the firmness I lost while nursing my son and to increase in size! I'm basically the same size I was before nursing but am much more saggy and have stretchmarks on my breasts. My goal is to become a full B cup but I would also be happy just being a full A.

BACKGROUND: I rarely drink caffeine. I'd say on average I drink maybe 4 pops a month and might have a cappuccino in there in too. I can go without both. My two weaknesses are chocolate and ice cream! But I can also cut back on those a lot. Don't smoke, rarely drink and if I do it's not much. Not on any form of birth control. Was diagnosed with cervical dysplasia after I had my son 2 1/2 years ago. Had it treated with cryotheraphy and have been fine since. (Kind of personal but feel it could be beneficial to others in my situation to see how NBE can affect that.) I don't eat the best. Really need to work on eating healthier, more NBE friendly foods. Also don't get much exercise other than what I get walking back and forth at work and chasing after my son! He sure keeps me busy. I always drink lots of water which is good! Stress level in my life is pretty high right now but am confident that that will taper off soon. I am very, very small. Short, very tiny frame, and low weight (even more so since taking PM). Hands and feet are usually cold and my body temperature is usually on the lower side of normal.

Program started on 12-14.

STATS:
Age: 24
Height: 5 ft 1/2"
Weight: 84 pounds (lost about 10 pounds while on PM, have gained a few back so far)
Children: One, nursed for 6 months
Current bra size: 32AA/32A depending on brand
Bra size while nursing: 32/34C

CURRENT MEASUREMENTS:
Above: 29 1/4"
Fullest: 29 1/4"
Under: 26 1/2"
L Breast: 6"
R Breast: 5 3/4"

****************

Starting up with massage 2x daily using Femagis and applying heat before and after. Also began taking a Borage/Fish/FSO combo pill 2x a day. (Contains 400mg of each.) Will start taking 3x a day tomorrow. I'd run out of my regular borage oil and went to Target to see if they had any. All they had was the combo pill. So far it's been giving me a couple icky side-effects... may have to switch back to what I was using before. Fish oil has never really agreed with me very well. Have been having a few random pains here and there.

12-17:
Stiilllll no AF. This is getting pretty frustrating and I don't like my cycle being off so much. I'm honestly not even sure if I'm going to get a period at all this cycle. For several days I was having some light cramping but that's stopped. Nipples are sensitive so I guess there's still some hope.

Ordered a bottle of WU cream yesterday and got an email today saying it's been shipped. Keeping my fingers crossed that I get it before Christmas! If I can't take the pills I could at least do the massages.

Also, took out the Borage/Fish/FSO combo pill. Made me feel horrible. Bought the same stuff I used before and am doing fine.

Weighed myself today and am 84 pounds. Not so good. My appetite is back to normal but I'm having problems gaining the weight back. Really need to bring that up.

12-19:
Added one Gingko Biloba capsule today. Taking mainly for reasons not related to NBE at this point. Will stop taking it once I start WU since it already has it in there. Will be adding Ginseng in a couple days (again, at this point for non-NBE related purposes right now) and most likely St. John's Wort soon after. Breasts were a little sore when I woke up this morning so I'm hoping AF is on its way. I sure have the moodiness indicating it.
Feeling pretty confident about this! I'm still measuring 29 3/4", still sometimes a little more up to 30" but not as consistantly. Since doing the "claw" massage on my right breast it's been continually sore and I have been feeling LOTS of stuff going on in that one. (Pains, tingling, the feeling of let down, etc.) It seems to be taking on a better shape and is more rounded at the bottom and on the side like my left one is. Hopefully with extra attention it will catch up a little more in size. Also still having pains in my left breast but I'm happy that the massage has caused me to feel more in my right breast. When I first started WU and didn't give it the extra attention I was mostly having pains in my left breast. My right needs the extra boost so I think it's a good sign that I'm feeling more in that one.

Figured I'd list all the things I'm feeling right now just for reference:
* Consistant pains (more in right)
* Fairly consistant feeling of tingling/let down (more in right)
* Right is very sore, left is just slightly. Both nipples are sore and sensitive.
* Itching (more on/in right)
* Wearing a bra has been really annoying and uncomfortable lately. The feelings of let down and itching and soreness make me really NOT want to wear one! Only wear it when I have to.

Not sure when to expect my period. My cycles before NBE were 22-24 days long, with Full Potential they were 30 days, and with St herb it was 40 days. I'm thinking it will be more around the 30 day mark, but we'll see. As of now I'm 21 days into my cycle so it should be within a week I would think. Hope I don't totally deflate after!
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Unread postJan 12, 2008#9
Quote:I'm getting tired of editing the same post over and over again so I'm just going to get this going!! I will consider the massages I've been doing as the beginning of my program while I'm waiting to begin my WU!

GOAL: My goal is to gain back the firmness I lost while nursing my son and to increase in size! I'm basically the same size I was before nursing but am much more saggy and have stretchmarks on my breasts. My goal is to become a full B cup but I would also be happy just being a full A.

BACKGROUND: I rarely drink caffeine. I'd say on average I drink maybe 4 pops a month and might have a cappuccino in there in too. I can go without both. My two weaknesses are chocolate and ice cream! But I can also cut back on those a lot. Don't smoke, rarely drink and if I do it's not much. Not on any form of birth control. Was diagnosed with cervical dysplasia after I had my son 2 1/2 years ago. Had it treated with cryotheraphy and have been fine since. (Kind of personal but feel it could be beneficial to others in my situation to see how NBE can affect that.) I don't eat the best. Really need to work on eating healthier, more NBE friendly foods. Also don't get much exercise other than what I get walking back and forth at work and chasing after my son! He sure keeps me busy. I always drink lots of water which is good! Stress level in my life is pretty high right now but am confident that that will taper off soon. I am very, very small. Short, very tiny frame, and low weight (even more so since taking PM). Hands and feet are usually cold and my body temperature is usually on the lower side of normal.

Program started on 12-14.

STATS:
Age: 24
Height: 5 ft 1/2"
Weight: 84 pounds (lost about 10 pounds while on PM, have gained a few back so far)
Children: One, nursed for 6 months
Current bra size: 32AA/32A depending on brand
Bra size while nursing: 32/34C

CURRENT MEASUREMENTS:
Above: 29 1/4"
Fullest: 29 1/4"
Under: 26 1/2"
L Breast: 6"
R Breast: 5 3/4"

****************

Starting up with massage 2x daily using Femagis and applying heat before and after. Also began taking a Borage/Fish/FSO combo pill 2x a day. (Contains 400mg of each.) Will start taking 3x a day tomorrow. I'd run out of my regular borage oil and went to Target to see if they had any. All they had was the combo pill. So far it's been giving me a couple icky side-effects... may have to switch back to what I was using before. Fish oil has never really agreed with me very well. Have been having a few random pains here and there.

12-17:
Stiilllll no AF. This is getting pretty frustrating and I don't like my cycle being off so much. I'm honestly not even sure if I'm going to get a period at all this cycle. For several days I was having some light cramping but that's stopped. Nipples are sensitive so I guess there's still some hope.

Ordered a bottle of WU cream yesterday and got an email today saying it's been shipped. Keeping my fingers crossed that I get it before Christmas! If I can't take the pills I could at least do the massages.

Also, took out the Borage/Fish/FSO combo pill. Made me feel horrible. Bought the same stuff I used before and am doing fine.

Weighed myself today and am 84 pounds. Not so good. My appetite is back to normal but I'm having problems gaining the weight back. Really need to bring that up.

12-19:
Added one Gingko Biloba capsule today. Taking mainly for reasons not related to NBE at this point. Will stop taking it once I start WU since it already has it in there. Will be adding Ginseng in a couple days (again, at this point for non-NBE related purposes right now) and most likely St. John's Wort soon after. Breasts were a little sore when I woke up this morning so I'm hoping AF is on its way. I sure have the moodiness indicating it.
I *finally* decided to take some pictures for the first time since I've been on WU. I was getting pretty confused about the fact that I've gained almost 3/4 of an inch, yet I wasn't sure if I was *really* seeing a difference or just imagining it and was perplexed as to why my bras weren't really fitting any differently after a gain like that! I hadn't taken any "before" pictures before starting WU as I was so depressed about how horrible they were looking, but I did still have my before pictures from the FP and St herb. Keeping in mind that I looked even SMALLER and more empty and saggy before starting WU than I did before starting PM, I did a quick comparison.

I can't BELIEVE how much I've filled out! Granted they still look fairly saggy and are mostly just full at the bottoms and outer sides (cleavage is filling out too though), but it's still such a huge improvement! NOW I see where all that growth has gone! lol Still got a long way to go but I'm definitely encouraged to continue for quite a while!
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