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Dec 30, 2006#1
Well I have been taking BE herbs without much success for a few months now. I guess I haven't measured my herbs consistently so that may be a big factor. I have felt nauseous and have taken a bit of a break and the past few days have just been taking Vitex. I have been massaging at night with fenugreek powder and olive oil. I have a few issues to take into consideration. I would like to lose some weight, I have a low body temp and I am older. I am 37 and weigh about 147 lbs. and height is 5'.5" I have kids and breastfed the youngest which was 6 years ago. I am 33.5" underbust and 37.5" across the fullest part of top
After looking at the pictures I am greatly inspired by tender ta ta's progress and have been contemplating following her program.
However, I will have to take some things to adjust for my own body. I am considering taking cayenne pepper to warm up my body because I am always cold. I will list my herbs soon. Maybe I will start tomorrow, however I will need some red clover.
Also, my right breast appears a little smaller than my left one. This happened when I was nursing my youngest.
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Ok, I've got some more information to add in. Last cycle I did have lots of luteal swelling before my period and my breasts looked large and my right smaller one even looked much more like the left one. I started out last cycle taking
2 Saw Palmetto 575 mg
2 Wild Yam 575mg
2 Fenugreek 575 mg
and then ramped up to 3 of each. I was feeling nauseous a lot and getting headaches and brain fog so I took about a week break around the week of Christmas. During this break I took some vitex. I feel better now and I am going to try out this new routine that I am starting today.
Morning: 1 ml of liquid extract Fenugreek
1 ml of Saw Palmetto (liquid)
1 pill of Fenugreek 575 mg
1 Red Clover 500mg
Protein shake for breakfast to try and help me lose a bit of weight.
A multi vitamin, plus cayenne pepper if I am cold. Although I may add Ginko Biloba to help with that since I read about it helping someone else.
Noon: Another protein shake
Night: 1 ml Fenugreek
1 ml Saw Palmetto
1 Red Clover 500 mg
1 Borage Oil 1300 mg
1 L-Arginine 900 mg
Massage at bedtime if I have the energy with fenugrek and olive oil mixture.
We shall see if I get any growing pains that I had before, if not I will probably start ramping up again with my old routine, but I may keep the Red Clover I have read of lots of other people getting better results when they added in RC.
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1 ml of Fenugreek
1 ml of Saw Palmetto
in my coffee and lots of Ibuprofen for my migraine hangover. A couple of hours ago I took another capsule of red clover 500mg and noticed several things... my heart rate seems to have gone up, or I can feel it thumping away in chest rather and my body temp seems to have risen. Also I do feel tingles in my breasts. I have decided to take the red clover slowly. Just one 500mg capsule a day for now. I have great expectations of it being a mirracle herb for me after reading other people's sudden results after adding it to their routines.
Tonight I will take more of the liquid extracts (I skipped last night because of my horrible migraine and had to go directly to bed)
1 ml Fenugreek
1 ml Saw Palmetto
Massage with olive oil and fenugreek. I am really tempted to get some cocoa butter after reading all of the fame it has gotten on this forum. I love this forum by the way. The pictures are very inspiring and a person can post their attempts here without critism.
I am very excited about my new routine! And I so appreciate being able to see what has worked for others.
I do welcome other people's comments.
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I meant to say that the results I had from my last cycle seemed to be mostly in the luteal swelling and what I was taking at the end were:
(3) 575mg Fenugreek
(3) 575mg Saw Palmetto
(3) 575mg Wild Yam
and I took this 3x day, morning, noon and evening. I really did not massage much. I had the most noticeable results around my period, however it did not seem to stay and I also felt ill at these amounts, some nausea, head aches and brain fog. I did start taking these herbs at the end of August 2006, but until November 2006 I really did not take them consistently or measure what I took really. However when I first measured myself I was more around 36" 36.5" (In Aug/Sept2006) around fullest part of my bust and now I measure a good 37.5" so I must have had some improvement over the months. I am going to try and keep better track now.
Back to the new routine I am experimenting with.
I seem to be really sensitive to the red clover. It seems to have a stimulating effect on me. Yesterday it increased my heart rate after I took it, my body feels warmer, I have a pink flush to my face that I have never had before, (except for sunburn!) and I COULD NOT fall asleep last night. I went to bed at 10:30 and was still awake at 1:30 am.
So! Today I took the red clover in the morning and will see if my body adapts to it, if not I may be cutting it out and going back to my previous routine. So far, though I am not having the heart palpitations that I had yesterday. We'll see how I sleep tonight.
Morning: 1 ml Fenugreek
1 ml Saw Palmetto (I put both of these in my cup of coffee)
1 Fenugreek capsule 575mg
1 Red Clover 500mg
Noon: 1 Fenugreek 575 mg
1 Saw Palmetto 575mg
Evening: 1ml F
1ml SP (in some cranberry juice)
1 Borage Oil 1300mg
1 L-Arginine 900 mg
As you can see, I am ramping up the Fenugreek and Saw Palmetto a bit. I was having more sensations before when taking the larger amounts. So I will try these new amounts for a few days.
I still have high hopes for the red clover since it seems to be stimulating my circulation and others have had success with it. I just hope my body can tolerate it.
Red clover, red clover send boobies right over!
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Also, I have had less sensations so far. I think I should up my Red Clover dose, but I am afraid to as long as I am getting headaches.
I went to Wal-Mart today and got some aloe vera gel and some cocoa butter/vit E cream. It has both in the cream. I may try the cocoa butter/vit E cream first. I will be more likely to massage more often since right now I worry about getting the fenugreek, olive oil on my clothes. I don't want oily stains on my bras and clothes, and the cocoa butter cream smells so yummy!
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Here is what I am taking today:
1 ml. liquid extract Saw Palmetto, Fenugreek & Wild yam all put in my coffee for morning dose.
Noon 1 ml each of Saw Palmetto, Fenugreek in some tea (it tasted nasty though)
Evening - 1 ml each of SP, Fen
(1) 1300 mg Borage Oil
(1) 900 mg L-Arginine
Massage right breast with cocoa butter/vit E cream
heating pad for 5-10 minutes
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1 ml liquid extract Saw Palmetto
1 ml liquid extract Wild Yam
1 ml liquid extract Fenugreek
1 capsule Ginkgo Biloba (unsure of mg)
NOON:
1 ml liquid extract Saw Palmetto
1 ml liquid extract Fenugreek
EVENING:
1 ml liquid extract Saw Palmetto
1 ml liquid extract Wild Yam
1 ml liquid extract Fenugreek
1 capsule 900 mg L-Arginine
1 capsule 1300 mg Borage oil
Most days I have a protein shake for breakfast for several reasons, one, it's easy and two I read an article that mentioned losing weight drinking two of these protein shakes a day in place of meals. I don't always get two in, but I usually manage one.
Probably 4 out of 7 nights I manage a short massage before bed. I am currently trying the liquid Fenugreek with some aloe vera gel. It seems less messy.
I do seem to be noticing a small change in my breasts. They seem rounder on the sides and the tape measure seems to be in agreement. 1/4" - 1/2" unless I am holding it wrong. I don't know. I have a hard time believing that the tape measure is accurate. I have loads of sensations though. My boobs are very sore and I get several tingles throughout the day. I also get pains under my arms which I don't like and I wonder if that is healthy.
Anyhoo. I am greatly encouraged and plan to stay at these doses for a while hopefully. I am rather fickle though and tend to change my mind a lot. For one thing, I keep looking in the mirror and telling myself that I really need to lose some weight and I have arguements with myself trying to decide if I have to choose between breast enlargement and weight loss which is more important. I want both.
Well I have been taking BE herbs without much success for a few months now. I guess I haven't measured my herbs consistently so that may be a big factor. I have felt nauseous and have taken a bit of a break and the past few days have just been taking Vitex. I have been massaging at night with fenugreek powder and olive oil. I have a few issues to take into consideration. I would like to lose some weight, I have a low body temp and I am older. I am 37 and weigh about 147 lbs. and height is 5'.5" I have kids and breastfed the youngest which was 6 years ago. I am 33.5" underbust and 37.5" across the fullest part of top
After looking at the pictures I am greatly inspired by tender ta ta's progress and have been contemplating following her program.
However, I will have to take some things to adjust for my own body. I am considering taking cayenne pepper to warm up my body because I am always cold. I will list my herbs soon. Maybe I will start tomorrow, however I will need some red clover.
Also, my right breast appears a little smaller than my left one. This happened when I was nursing my youngest.
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Unread postDec 31, 2006#2
Ok, I've got some more information to add in. Last cycle I did have lots of luteal swelling before my period and my breasts looked large and my right smaller one even looked much more like the left one. I started out last cycle taking
2 Saw Palmetto 575 mg
2 Wild Yam 575mg
2 Fenugreek 575 mg
and then ramped up to 3 of each. I was feeling nauseous a lot and getting headaches and brain fog so I took about a week break around the week of Christmas. During this break I took some vitex. I feel better now and I am going to try out this new routine that I am starting today.
Morning: 1 ml of liquid extract Fenugreek
1 ml of Saw Palmetto (liquid)
1 pill of Fenugreek 575 mg
1 Red Clover 500mg
Protein shake for breakfast to try and help me lose a bit of weight.
A multi vitamin, plus cayenne pepper if I am cold. Although I may add Ginko Biloba to help with that since I read about it helping someone else.
Noon: Another protein shake
Night: 1 ml Fenugreek
1 ml Saw Palmetto
1 Red Clover 500 mg
1 Borage Oil 1300 mg
1 L-Arginine 900 mg
Massage at bedtime if I have the energy with fenugrek and olive oil mixture.
We shall see if I get any growing pains that I had before, if not I will probably start ramping up again with my old routine, but I may keep the Red Clover I have read of lots of other people getting better results when they added in RC.
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Quote:Well I have been taking BE herbs without much success for a few months now. I guess I haven't measured my herbs consistently so that may be a big factor. I have felt nauseous and have taken a bit of a break and the past few days have just been taking Vitex. I have been massaging at night with fenugreek powder and olive oil. I have a few issues to take into consideration. I would like to lose some weight, I have a low body temp and I am older. I am 37 and weigh about 147 lbs. and height is 5'.5" I have kids and breastfed the youngest which was 6 years ago. I am 33.5" underbust and 37.5" across the fullest part of topOk well I got some red clover yesterday and took some last night and got a migraine pretty soon after taking it, like an hour or so. I also took some cayenne pepper (in a capsule) so who knows what causes the migraine. However I have pushed forward and so far today have taken
After looking at the pictures I am greatly inspired by tender ta ta's progress and have been contemplating following her program.
However, I will have to take some things to adjust for my own body. I am considering taking cayenne pepper to warm up my body because I am always cold. I will list my herbs soon. Maybe I will start tomorrow, however I will need some red clover.
Also, my right breast appears a little smaller than my left one. This happened when I was nursing my youngest.
1 ml of Fenugreek
1 ml of Saw Palmetto
in my coffee and lots of Ibuprofen for my migraine hangover. A couple of hours ago I took another capsule of red clover 500mg and noticed several things... my heart rate seems to have gone up, or I can feel it thumping away in chest rather and my body temp seems to have risen. Also I do feel tingles in my breasts. I have decided to take the red clover slowly. Just one 500mg capsule a day for now. I have great expectations of it being a mirracle herb for me after reading other people's sudden results after adding it to their routines.
Tonight I will take more of the liquid extracts (I skipped last night because of my horrible migraine and had to go directly to bed)
1 ml Fenugreek
1 ml Saw Palmetto
Massage with olive oil and fenugreek. I am really tempted to get some cocoa butter after reading all of the fame it has gotten on this forum. I love this forum by the way. The pictures are very inspiring and a person can post their attempts here without critism.
I am very excited about my new routine! And I so appreciate being able to see what has worked for others.
I do welcome other people's comments.
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Quote:Well I have been taking BE herbs without much success for a few months now. I guess I haven't measured my herbs consistently so that may be a big factor. I have felt nauseous and have taken a bit of a break and the past few days have just been taking Vitex. I have been massaging at night with fenugreek powder and olive oil. I have a few issues to take into consideration. I would like to lose some weight, I have a low body temp and I am older. I am 37 and weigh about 147 lbs. and height is 5'.5" I have kids and breastfed the youngest which was 6 years ago. I am 33.5" underbust and 37.5" across the fullest part of topI wish we could go back and change our previous posts, because I have noticed that I have made some mistakes.
After looking at the pictures I am greatly inspired by tender ta ta's progress and have been contemplating following her program.
However, I will have to take some things to adjust for my own body. I am considering taking cayenne pepper to warm up my body because I am always cold. I will list my herbs soon. Maybe I will start tomorrow, however I will need some red clover.
Also, my right breast appears a little smaller than my left one. This happened when I was nursing my youngest.
I meant to say that the results I had from my last cycle seemed to be mostly in the luteal swelling and what I was taking at the end were:
(3) 575mg Fenugreek
(3) 575mg Saw Palmetto
(3) 575mg Wild Yam
and I took this 3x day, morning, noon and evening. I really did not massage much. I had the most noticeable results around my period, however it did not seem to stay and I also felt ill at these amounts, some nausea, head aches and brain fog. I did start taking these herbs at the end of August 2006, but until November 2006 I really did not take them consistently or measure what I took really. However when I first measured myself I was more around 36" 36.5" (In Aug/Sept2006) around fullest part of my bust and now I measure a good 37.5" so I must have had some improvement over the months. I am going to try and keep better track now.
Back to the new routine I am experimenting with.
I seem to be really sensitive to the red clover. It seems to have a stimulating effect on me. Yesterday it increased my heart rate after I took it, my body feels warmer, I have a pink flush to my face that I have never had before, (except for sunburn!) and I COULD NOT fall asleep last night. I went to bed at 10:30 and was still awake at 1:30 am.
So! Today I took the red clover in the morning and will see if my body adapts to it, if not I may be cutting it out and going back to my previous routine. So far, though I am not having the heart palpitations that I had yesterday. We'll see how I sleep tonight.
Morning: 1 ml Fenugreek
1 ml Saw Palmetto (I put both of these in my cup of coffee)
1 Fenugreek capsule 575mg
1 Red Clover 500mg
Noon: 1 Fenugreek 575 mg
1 Saw Palmetto 575mg
Evening: 1ml F
1ml SP (in some cranberry juice)
1 Borage Oil 1300mg
1 L-Arginine 900 mg
As you can see, I am ramping up the Fenugreek and Saw Palmetto a bit. I was having more sensations before when taking the larger amounts. So I will try these new amounts for a few days.
I still have high hopes for the red clover since it seems to be stimulating my circulation and others have had success with it. I just hope my body can tolerate it.
Red clover, red clover send boobies right over!
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Quote:Well I have been taking BE herbs without much success for a few months now. I guess I haven't measured my herbs consistently so that may be a big factor. I have felt nauseous and have taken a bit of a break and the past few days have just been taking Vitex. I have been massaging at night with fenugreek powder and olive oil. I have a few issues to take into consideration. I would like to lose some weight, I have a low body temp and I am older. I am 37 and weigh about 147 lbs. and height is 5'.5" I have kids and breastfed the youngest which was 6 years ago. I am 33.5" underbust and 37.5" across the fullest part of topI have had a head ache every single day since starting the Red Clover. I am really trying to give it a shot, but this conitnuous headache is wearing me out and I am tempted to go back to my previous program of 3 pills each 3x day of Fenugreek, Saw Palmetto, and Wild Yam. Or substituting liquid extracts, but using the same herbs. The liquid extracts are so much easier.
After looking at the pictures I am greatly inspired by tender ta ta's progress and have been contemplating following her program.
However, I will have to take some things to adjust for my own body. I am considering taking cayenne pepper to warm up my body because I am always cold. I will list my herbs soon. Maybe I will start tomorrow, however I will need some red clover.
Also, my right breast appears a little smaller than my left one. This happened when I was nursing my youngest.
Also, I have had less sensations so far. I think I should up my Red Clover dose, but I am afraid to as long as I am getting headaches.
I went to Wal-Mart today and got some aloe vera gel and some cocoa butter/vit E cream. It has both in the cream. I may try the cocoa butter/vit E cream first. I will be more likely to massage more often since right now I worry about getting the fenugreek, olive oil on my clothes. I don't want oily stains on my bras and clothes, and the cocoa butter cream smells so yummy!
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Quote:Well I have been taking BE herbs without much success for a few months now. I guess I haven't measured my herbs consistently so that may be a big factor. I have felt nauseous and have taken a bit of a break and the past few days have just been taking Vitex. I have been massaging at night with fenugreek powder and olive oil. I have a few issues to take into consideration. I would like to lose some weight, I have a low body temp and I am older. I am 37 and weigh about 147 lbs. and height is 5'.5" I have kids and breastfed the youngest which was 6 years ago. I am 33.5" underbust and 37.5" across the fullest part of topI am sorry to say that I woke up with an unbearable headache this morning and just exhausted so I did not take the red clover. I've decided I need a simple routine with little side effects and so am going back to my old routine. I will slowly ramp up the Wild Yam
After looking at the pictures I am greatly inspired by tender ta ta's progress and have been contemplating following her program.
However, I will have to take some things to adjust for my own body. I am considering taking cayenne pepper to warm up my body because I am always cold. I will list my herbs soon. Maybe I will start tomorrow, however I will need some red clover.
Also, my right breast appears a little smaller than my left one. This happened when I was nursing my youngest.
Here is what I am taking today:
1 ml. liquid extract Saw Palmetto, Fenugreek & Wild yam all put in my coffee for morning dose.
Noon 1 ml each of Saw Palmetto, Fenugreek in some tea (it tasted nasty though)
Evening - 1 ml each of SP, Fen
(1) 1300 mg Borage Oil
(1) 900 mg L-Arginine
Massage right breast with cocoa butter/vit E cream
heating pad for 5-10 minutes
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Quote:Well I have been taking BE herbs without much success for a few months now. I guess I haven't measured my herbs consistently so that may be a big factor. I have felt nauseous and have taken a bit of a break and the past few days have just been taking Vitex. I have been massaging at night with fenugreek powder and olive oil. I have a few issues to take into consideration. I would like to lose some weight, I have a low body temp and I am older. I am 37 and weigh about 147 lbs. and height is 5'.5" I have kids and breastfed the youngest which was 6 years ago. I am 33.5" underbust and 37.5" across the fullest part of topMORNING:
After looking at the pictures I am greatly inspired by tender ta ta's progress and have been contemplating following her program.
However, I will have to take some things to adjust for my own body. I am considering taking cayenne pepper to warm up my body because I am always cold. I will list my herbs soon. Maybe I will start tomorrow, however I will need some red clover.
Also, my right breast appears a little smaller than my left one. This happened when I was nursing my youngest.
1 ml liquid extract Saw Palmetto
1 ml liquid extract Wild Yam
1 ml liquid extract Fenugreek
1 capsule Ginkgo Biloba (unsure of mg)
NOON:
1 ml liquid extract Saw Palmetto
1 ml liquid extract Fenugreek
EVENING:
1 ml liquid extract Saw Palmetto
1 ml liquid extract Wild Yam
1 ml liquid extract Fenugreek
1 capsule 900 mg L-Arginine
1 capsule 1300 mg Borage oil
Most days I have a protein shake for breakfast for several reasons, one, it's easy and two I read an article that mentioned losing weight drinking two of these protein shakes a day in place of meals. I don't always get two in, but I usually manage one.
Probably 4 out of 7 nights I manage a short massage before bed. I am currently trying the liquid Fenugreek with some aloe vera gel. It seems less messy.
I do seem to be noticing a small change in my breasts. They seem rounder on the sides and the tape measure seems to be in agreement. 1/4" - 1/2" unless I am holding it wrong. I don't know. I have a hard time believing that the tape measure is accurate. I have loads of sensations though. My boobs are very sore and I get several tingles throughout the day. I also get pains under my arms which I don't like and I wonder if that is healthy.
Anyhoo. I am greatly encouraged and plan to stay at these doses for a while hopefully. I am rather fickle though and tend to change my mind a lot. For one thing, I keep looking in the mirror and telling myself that I really need to lose some weight and I have arguements with myself trying to decide if I have to choose between breast enlargement and weight loss which is more important. I want both.