24-01-2022, 22:33
Unfortunately I've decided to stop taking Vitex for various reasons. I really wasn't feeling the bad chest stuff nearly as much and I think it IS doing its job, it's just that I don't know if I'm willing to put up with all the stuff it's throwing at me, for three months! I still haven't started my period. It's not extremely late - only 2 days - but it's throwing so much out of whack.
During this cycle when I started my program of individual herbs (7 days after I had started my last period) I developed one of those big, really deep, sore and painful under the skin zits that are usually impossible to get to. I was smart and left it alone, only putting Neosporin on it twice a day. After a week it was pretty much gone. But about a week ago it started filling up again and hurt even worse and was even bigger. It actually came to a head this time so I popped it because I really felt the pressure needed to be relieved. After a few days it was like it was going away again. Yesterday when I woke up it had filled up AGAIN and was even MORE painful. It's getting to be ridiculous. I never ever have a problem with acne. I might get one tiny little zit once a year on my nose or chin or forehead around that time of the month but that's it. Since I've been on NBE I've had 4 or 5 of these deep painful zits (though none as bad as this one). This is undoubtedly going to scar and I DON'T WANT THAT. I'm sure the Vitex is just doing its job and regulating things, but I don't think I'm willing to go through this for three months. I'm in the process of trying to find a new job right now and I don't need to worry about that on top of everything!
Also last night at work my heart starting racing really fast and I almost felt like a panic attack was coming on. Not really wanting to go through those again.
I looked up MacaActive online and it looks like it's much faster acting. It says a lot of people see results in as little as one to two weeks. Some it can take a month and others 2 or 3. But I've ordered one bottle and will try it for a month. If I feel my symptoms are gone by my next period, I will start on Bella's PM. If I am unable to take it due to my usual problems, I'll give WU another try. If that's a no-go too, I'll try suction and magnets.
*Note: I'm going to order some magnets this weekend to begin while I'm taking MacaActives and PM.
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Unread postOct 03, 2008#9
My period ended up starting about 15 minutes after the last entry. I wouldn't say there's been anything out of the ordinary with it other than I haven't had that dead-tired feeling that I usually get with my period, so that's nice!
The biggest thing though, is that my breasts STILL have soreness and are still getting random pains, have kept the increase in measurement, and still look firm. Even when I was growing on WU, I'd still lose some of the firmness I had while on my period even though I kept some of the swelling. They still ended up looking a little deflated after. But since I've been on Vitex, they look just as great as they did before my period started.
Also, I've increased my Vitex to 3 caps per day (the bottle instructs you take 4-6) and I haven't felt the chest stuff hardly at all. And since my period started that zit is pretty much gone.
I don't know what to do!! I already ordered the MacaActive and it'll be arriving on Monday. I don't want to have wasted the money on it, but I'm not sure if I should stop taking Vitex either. I think I'll continue with Vitex for now and keep the MacaActive on hand. It'll be there if I need it.
Other random notes: My pms lasted quite a while. For about a week and a half I was pretty b*tchy and impatient and just not nice. Then that went away and I got more emotional - tearing up at commercials or nice stories... Things I don't normally do to that extent. Recounted and my period was actually exactly on time, not 2 days late as I previously thought.
Day 3 of period, still have soreness, getting a few pains here and there, looking full, and still measuring 31". Usually by now any swelling I had from PMS has left, but we'll see if it really sticks. Looks like the cleavage areas on both breasts are really filling out. Also, NO HEADACHES!! I usually get a bad one either right before or during my period. Always after too. I'd get horrible headaches (I'm assuming they'd be considered migraines) for 2-3 days after my period when I was on herbs. Keeping my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen this time! Haven't been taking the Flaxseed as I should be. Usually fitting in only 1/2 tbsp per day. I just don't find myself eating many things that it goes with. I'm not a big cereal person, I eat oatmeal every now and then, but my favorite thing to put it in is yogurt. I eat it once a day.
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Unread postOct 07, 2008#10
Above - 30 1/2"
Fullest - Goes back and forth between 30 3/4" - 31". I'll just say really close to 31".
Under - 26 3/4"
I will take this for a month and then on to Bella's PM. I probably won't update this program much more unless it's to make notes on noticeable hormonal changes taking place. I don't really expect anything to happen with breast growth.
Other random notes: My soreness eventually did go away completely. I'm measuring a little bit bigger than I did before taking Vitex. The best part was that I didn't get the horrible headaches with or after my period. Pretty awesome. All in all I would highly recommend Vitex to anyone with ED. I'm sure it would have done great things for me had I continued taking it. Hopefully MacaActive will do the same for me only faster! I've ordered some Hoodia gum from the seller on ebay who sells a lot of PM stuff and will begin taking that as soon as I get it. I desperately want to lose some of this extra that I've gained. Now that my work schedule has changed I'm also going to start taking walks 3 times a week and continuing with my exercise ball 3x a week also.
ETA - I've also ordered some magnets and should get them by the end of the week and will start on those right away. So I guess I WILL be updating this program to note any changes on those until I start my new PM program. I'd love it if the magnets helped me fill in the tops of my breasts!! Basically any filling out would be great.
During this cycle when I started my program of individual herbs (7 days after I had started my last period) I developed one of those big, really deep, sore and painful under the skin zits that are usually impossible to get to. I was smart and left it alone, only putting Neosporin on it twice a day. After a week it was pretty much gone. But about a week ago it started filling up again and hurt even worse and was even bigger. It actually came to a head this time so I popped it because I really felt the pressure needed to be relieved. After a few days it was like it was going away again. Yesterday when I woke up it had filled up AGAIN and was even MORE painful. It's getting to be ridiculous. I never ever have a problem with acne. I might get one tiny little zit once a year on my nose or chin or forehead around that time of the month but that's it. Since I've been on NBE I've had 4 or 5 of these deep painful zits (though none as bad as this one). This is undoubtedly going to scar and I DON'T WANT THAT. I'm sure the Vitex is just doing its job and regulating things, but I don't think I'm willing to go through this for three months. I'm in the process of trying to find a new job right now and I don't need to worry about that on top of everything!
Also last night at work my heart starting racing really fast and I almost felt like a panic attack was coming on. Not really wanting to go through those again.
I looked up MacaActive online and it looks like it's much faster acting. It says a lot of people see results in as little as one to two weeks. Some it can take a month and others 2 or 3. But I've ordered one bottle and will try it for a month. If I feel my symptoms are gone by my next period, I will start on Bella's PM. If I am unable to take it due to my usual problems, I'll give WU another try. If that's a no-go too, I'll try suction and magnets.
*Note: I'm going to order some magnets this weekend to begin while I'm taking MacaActives and PM.
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Unread postOct 03, 2008#9
Quote:Stats:Okay I may have been speaking mostly out of frustration with my last post. Now I'm kind of torn on what to do.
Above: 30"
Fullest: 30 1/2"
Under: 26 3/4"
Starting bra size: 32AA/32A
Current bra size: 32B/34A depending on bra style/cut/brand
Waist: 24 1/4" (I'd like to bring this down at least an inch)
Hips: 33 1/2" (Also like to take this down an inch or so)
(Gained increases in both waist and hips the last couple months, I believe it had a little to do with ED)
Age: 25
Height: 5'1/2" (very small frame)
Weight: 91 lbs
History: 25 years old, have one 3 year old son whom I breastfed for 6 months. Am a little bigger now than I was before my pregnancy thanks to NBE. After my pregnancy and nursing, my breasts were tiny, deflated and incredibly saggy. Also have stretch marks on them which is another reason I'm wanting to grow - the fuller they are, the less visible the stretch marks will be. Took PM for a few months with no results, then took WU for 6 months and grew 1 1/4". Did all but 1/4" of my growing during the first month. Breasts are looking much fuller and firmer, but I'm still far from my goal.
Goal: Would love to fill out some more (especially tops of breasts) and would be absolutely thrilled to be a full 32C.
Program:
AM
Vitex- 400mg (Solaray <not the "Potency Guaranteed" line, just the regular>)
Borage Oil- 500mg (Spring Valley brand)
Gelatin- 1300mg (Spring Valley brand)
Ground Flaxseed- 1/1 tbsp in drink or cereal (Bob's Red Mill Whole Ground Flaxseed Meal)
Massage following Pansyclub's massage technique using NOW brand 100% Pure Cocoa Butter
Total of 4 pills
Afternoon
Vitamin C With Rose Hips - 500mg (Origin brand from Target, chewable)
Marine Collagen- 1100mg (Nature's Life from myvitanet.com)
Biotin- about 2500mcg or 2.5mg (Rexall Naturals brand)
Gelatin- 1300mg (Spring Valley brand)
Total of 5 pills, one being chewable
PM
Vitex- 400mg
Borage Oil- 500mg
Ground Flaxseed- 1/2 tbsp
Gelatin- 1300mg
Massage as stated above with 10-15 heating pad after
Total of 4 pills
I'm mostly going the Vitex route right now because I suspect I have some estrogen dominance. Hoping to balance things out. Not expecting growth from just Vitex but it sure would be a nice surprise! I'm eventually going to add Maca and magnets to this program. Possibly suction too.
My period ended up starting about 15 minutes after the last entry. I wouldn't say there's been anything out of the ordinary with it other than I haven't had that dead-tired feeling that I usually get with my period, so that's nice!
The biggest thing though, is that my breasts STILL have soreness and are still getting random pains, have kept the increase in measurement, and still look firm. Even when I was growing on WU, I'd still lose some of the firmness I had while on my period even though I kept some of the swelling. They still ended up looking a little deflated after. But since I've been on Vitex, they look just as great as they did before my period started.
Also, I've increased my Vitex to 3 caps per day (the bottle instructs you take 4-6) and I haven't felt the chest stuff hardly at all. And since my period started that zit is pretty much gone.
I don't know what to do!! I already ordered the MacaActive and it'll be arriving on Monday. I don't want to have wasted the money on it, but I'm not sure if I should stop taking Vitex either. I think I'll continue with Vitex for now and keep the MacaActive on hand. It'll be there if I need it.
Other random notes: My pms lasted quite a while. For about a week and a half I was pretty b*tchy and impatient and just not nice. Then that went away and I got more emotional - tearing up at commercials or nice stories... Things I don't normally do to that extent. Recounted and my period was actually exactly on time, not 2 days late as I previously thought.
Day 3 of period, still have soreness, getting a few pains here and there, looking full, and still measuring 31". Usually by now any swelling I had from PMS has left, but we'll see if it really sticks. Looks like the cleavage areas on both breasts are really filling out. Also, NO HEADACHES!! I usually get a bad one either right before or during my period. Always after too. I'd get horrible headaches (I'm assuming they'd be considered migraines) for 2-3 days after my period when I was on herbs. Keeping my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen this time! Haven't been taking the Flaxseed as I should be. Usually fitting in only 1/2 tbsp per day. I just don't find myself eating many things that it goes with. I'm not a big cereal person, I eat oatmeal every now and then, but my favorite thing to put it in is yogurt. I eat it once a day.
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Unread postOct 07, 2008#10
Quote:Stats:I started taking the MacaActive today. I figured I spent the $30 on it so I might as well. Had some pains and tingling after taking it. Current measurements:
Above: 30"
Fullest: 30 1/2"
Under: 26 3/4"
Starting bra size: 32AA/32A
Current bra size: 32B/34A depending on bra style/cut/brand
Waist: 24 1/4" (I'd like to bring this down at least an inch)
Hips: 33 1/2" (Also like to take this down an inch or so)
(Gained increases in both waist and hips the last couple months, I believe it had a little to do with ED)
Age: 25
Height: 5'1/2" (very small frame)
Weight: 91 lbs
History: 25 years old, have one 3 year old son whom I breastfed for 6 months. Am a little bigger now than I was before my pregnancy thanks to NBE. After my pregnancy and nursing, my breasts were tiny, deflated and incredibly saggy. Also have stretch marks on them which is another reason I'm wanting to grow - the fuller they are, the less visible the stretch marks will be. Took PM for a few months with no results, then took WU for 6 months and grew 1 1/4". Did all but 1/4" of my growing during the first month. Breasts are looking much fuller and firmer, but I'm still far from my goal.
Goal: Would love to fill out some more (especially tops of breasts) and would be absolutely thrilled to be a full 32C.
Program:
AM
Vitex- 400mg (Solaray <not the "Potency Guaranteed" line, just the regular>)
Borage Oil- 500mg (Spring Valley brand)
Gelatin- 1300mg (Spring Valley brand)
Ground Flaxseed- 1/1 tbsp in drink or cereal (Bob's Red Mill Whole Ground Flaxseed Meal)
Massage following Pansyclub's massage technique using NOW brand 100% Pure Cocoa Butter
Total of 4 pills
Afternoon
Vitamin C With Rose Hips - 500mg (Origin brand from Target, chewable)
Marine Collagen- 1100mg (Nature's Life from myvitanet.com)
Biotin- about 2500mcg or 2.5mg (Rexall Naturals brand)
Gelatin- 1300mg (Spring Valley brand)
Total of 5 pills, one being chewable
PM
Vitex- 400mg
Borage Oil- 500mg
Ground Flaxseed- 1/2 tbsp
Gelatin- 1300mg
Massage as stated above with 10-15 heating pad after
Total of 4 pills
I'm mostly going the Vitex route right now because I suspect I have some estrogen dominance. Hoping to balance things out. Not expecting growth from just Vitex but it sure would be a nice surprise! I'm eventually going to add Maca and magnets to this program. Possibly suction too.
Above - 30 1/2"
Fullest - Goes back and forth between 30 3/4" - 31". I'll just say really close to 31".
Under - 26 3/4"
I will take this for a month and then on to Bella's PM. I probably won't update this program much more unless it's to make notes on noticeable hormonal changes taking place. I don't really expect anything to happen with breast growth.
Other random notes: My soreness eventually did go away completely. I'm measuring a little bit bigger than I did before taking Vitex. The best part was that I didn't get the horrible headaches with or after my period. Pretty awesome. All in all I would highly recommend Vitex to anyone with ED. I'm sure it would have done great things for me had I continued taking it. Hopefully MacaActive will do the same for me only faster! I've ordered some Hoodia gum from the seller on ebay who sells a lot of PM stuff and will begin taking that as soon as I get it. I desperately want to lose some of this extra that I've gained. Now that my work schedule has changed I'm also going to start taking walks 3 times a week and continuing with my exercise ball 3x a week also.
ETA - I've also ordered some magnets and should get them by the end of the week and will start on those right away. So I guess I WILL be updating this program to note any changes on those until I start my new PM program. I'd love it if the magnets helped me fill in the tops of my breasts!! Basically any filling out would be great.