25-01-2022, 00:13
Wow. I gotta say I cannot believe I wasted so much time taking the liquid herb extracts. I really thought I was doing the right thing. NOPE! I have only been taking the capsules for 5 days or so and things are changing fast! The most amazing thing is the lip swelling! I had heard about this, and now it is happening to me. Tingly puffy lips. And not a bad thing at all! I'm into it.
Also, just this morning I was taking a walk and I could feel my boobs BOUNCE as I walked along...! This may not seem like a big deal to some women, but trust me I have never had the pleasure of this sensation. I don't wear a bra, but normally I am not aware of my breasts at ALL, ever, even if I were running. And there I was just walking along and I felt this dreamy ...bounce...bounce...bounce...bounce... OMG! I had the biggest grin on my face, anyone who saw me would have thought I was nuts.
I measured around my bust this morning and I am back up to 32 inches, which is where I started, but somehow in there I lost half an inch. Whew, got it back! There is definitely something happening now. My skin broke out for the first few days on the capsules but it's clearing up now and I feel great.
When I actually stop and think that this might really work, that I might really be a B cup someday, I nearly cry out of joy. I cannot WAIT to buy a beautiful bra. I keep thinking about how amazing that is going to feel.
Ok, happy growing everyone!
Unread postFeb 18, 2009#12
Well, I must be doing something right, because I feel GREAT!
This boobie obsession of mine is serious now, and I am having dreams about boobs all the time. I think this is a good sign. My subconscious definitely knows what I have in mind!
There are a few things I am going to start doing. One is to look at a picture of my ideal breasts every day. Maybe even carry a picture in my purse. I found a celebrity who has the "perfect pair", so that's my goal. It might be reaching too far for my frame but I will be happy with any success. (She's probably a C cup and I am AA). Maybe I could just have a slightly smaller version of her breasts. ;-)
Also, today I discovered ANDREW DOBSON. I fell in love immediately. He is a hypnotist who I believe is Australian. I watched a video of him explaining hypnosis and that's how I knew I could trust this man. I also did a free hypnosis on his website for fear of spiders and he had me laughing so hard by the end that I was crying. So I am just about to buy his breast enhancement cd. I'm very excited!
I have been so disciplined this last week about taking my herbs and eating boobie foods. I feel so positive right now, it's fantastic. I think the hemp protein smoothie I am drinking every day is doing wonders for my sense of well being. Maybe it's the maca in there.
Anyhoo, just checking in and hope to have a good report soon.
:-)
Unread postFeb 22, 2009#13
Changin' it up one more time again! I can't really explain why, I guess I am just following my intuition. Just a slight adjustment.
A.M.
-------
fenugreek 610 mg, 2 capsules
pumpkin seed oil 1000mg, 1 gelcap
red clover 350mg, 3 capsules
evening primrose oil 500mg, 1 gelcap
handful o' sesame seeds
hemp protein smoothie (contains maca)
massage smaller breast with borage lotion
AFTERNOON
------------
red clover 350mg, 3 capsules
evening primrose oil 500mg, 1 gelcap
dong quai 550mg, 1 capsule
flax oil 2 spoonfuls in yogurt
chicken feet broth/miso soup
handful fennel seeds
cup of fenugreek tea
P.M.
--------
fenugreek 610 mg, 2 capsules
saw palmetto extract 160mg, 1 gelcap
red clover 350mg, 3 capsules
evening primrose oil 500mg, 1 gelcap
handful o' sesame seeds
massage smaller breast with borage lotion
and sometimes, a beer (for the hops!)
I can still say I am amazed how much more potent the capsules are than the liquid extracts were. I think once I started taking the red clover capsules my body went through a detox. It turns out that this herb is a blood purifier! Who knew? Has lots of health benefits, so I am glad to be taking it. I am actually still sick but it feels like my body is just throwing off a bunch of toxins.
I am considering ordering some PM cream for my smaller breast. Oh and I still haven't ordered the Andrew Dobson hypnosis but I really want to.
:-)
Happy growing!
Unread postFeb 24, 2009#14
I am continuously learning new stuff on this web forum. It's so awesome. And I feel like I should post every time a make a new discovery.
I believe that I have excess testosterone. It would explain a lot of what I have been going through for the past 20 years. It kinda makes me mad that nobody noticed it when I was a teenager, but, life goes on. I have always had terrible acne and problems with anger. Bad. I have always been skinny and kinda aggressive, and had trouble making friends with girls. I mean, dang! How did all this go unnoticed?!? I always suspected there was something wrong with me. I haven't felt feminine since I was a little girl.
So. I have read that taking saw palmetto together with pumpkin seed oil is a great attack plan on the testosterone thing. So that's why I am taking pumpkin seed oil in the morning and SP at night. And I just read about spearmint tea being great to reduce testosterone and I am SO EXCITED because I love that stuff. It won't be hard at all to integrate that in my routine. I will start having 2 cups a day. Also I am worried about some extra acne I have had recently after I thought I cleared it up, so I am going to bring my EPO back down after reading that is can cause acne in some people. I had been maintaining a good menstrual cycle before this NBE thing by taking just one EPO gelcap a day so I guess that's all I need.
And I am so tempted to buy PM cream but I feel like I should wait and see what happens after I can bring my testosterone down (hopefully). I don't want to try to do too much all at once. Oh another thing I read was that a combo of lavender and tea tree oil suppresses testosterone and I just happen to have lavender lotion right next to a bottle of tea tree oil in my bathroom right now, so that will be my new massage mixture for a while.
WOW! This is fun. Crazy stuff.
I just took pictures of myself that look identical to my starting pictures from 4 months ago, so I won't be posting those yet. But I am convinced that I will be successful and I look forward to posting pictures that show results sometime in the next few months.
:-)
~LaReve
Unread postFeb 27, 2009#15
I started getting random nosebleeds this past week and I think it is due to the red clover and saw palmetto, both of which can have an effect on blood/bleeding. I posted about it on the main forum just to get everyone thinking about being cautious. I think it's so important to research the herbs we are taking. Lucky for me since I had read extensively on my herbs, I knew that blood thinning could be a side effect.
Anyhow, I don't have proof but I don't want to take any chances, so I am going to stop taking RC and SP immediately. I want all that stuff out of my system. In the meantime I will be regrouping and coming up with a new plan. I already bought pumpkin seed oil so I'll start taking that twice a day and I suppose I need to find a new phytoestrogen source. I might just kick it into high gear with boobie foods and massage. I've definitely increased my soy intake so that's good.
Oooh! Also I bought some tea that's made for nursing women that is loaded with galactagogues and tastes really yummy. It's called Mother's Milk, it's made by Traditional Medicinals.
Unread postFeb 27, 2009#16
Hi LaReve,
I don't know how the weather is where you live, but could the dryness of the air right now be a cause for your nose bleeding? Where I live, the air is very dry this time of year and sometimes it can give people a bloody nose. I remember when I used to share a room with my sister, I woke up one night and noticed that she had blood smudged on her face- it looked pretty scary! but it just happened because the air was too dry.
Of course, it's still a good idea to keep tabs on the dosage of whatever supplements/herbs you may be taking.
Good luck!
// Halleeday
// Halleeday
Unread postFeb 27, 2009#17
It's certainly possible that my nosebleeds were caused by something completely different. But I have lived in the same area for 4 years and these are my first nosebleeds.
I guess I am being over cautious, but what I read about the herbs really makes me feel like I might be one of a handful of people who has strange side effects. I'm sure that everyone on the message board isn't going to come down with nosebleeds! I just saw a possible link between my herbs and my symptoms and it's worth it to me to change up to be on the safe side.
:-)
I think I'm gonna dive head first into royal jelly now! I've been reading up on it and it sounds awesome.
~LaReve
Unread postMar 03, 2009#18
So after my nosebleeds I realized my gums have been bleeding a lot (when I brush my teeth) lately too and what a drag! No idea if it's truly because of my herbs, but I officially cut out red clover. I'm not ready to give up my other herbs yet, I'm going to see how things go without red clover and if there's no change I might have to make more adjustments. ALso I have slowed down on the sesame seeds cause they keep getting stuck all up in my teeth.
Also lately I have been so slack about massaging and I am making myself a promise to get back to that because it's obvious that the gals around here who have gotten the best results have been avid massagers.
My program as it is now:
A.M.
-------
fenugreek 610 mg, 2 capsules
pumpkin seed oil 1000mg, 1 gelcap
hemp protein smoothie (contains maca) made w/ soy milk
royal jelly 314 mg
handful fennel seeds
cup of spearmint tea
massage smaller breast with lotion
AFTERNOON
------------
fenugreek 610mg, 2 capsules
evening primrose oil 500mg, 1 gelcap
dong quai 550mg, 1 capsule
chicken feet broth/miso soup (almost every day)
handful fennel seeds
cup of "Mother's Milk" tea
P.M.
--------
fenugreek 610 mg, 2 capsules
saw palmetto extract 160mg, 1 gelcap
royal jelly 314 mg
handful fennel seeds
massage smaller breast with lotion
The lotion I am using is either borage lotion or a mix of lavender and tea tree lotion. My goal is to do this more regularly and I want to start using a heating pad.
Sometimes I drink more tea than I have listed, because I am loving these herb teas. I have cut down on my alcohol consumption.
My measurements are still the same. I am about to start my period and I didn't even get premenstrual swelling in my boobs this month. Weird... I also didn't break out, my face actually cleared up. I did my fair share of crying over the past few days though!
Last edited by LaReve on 1:55 AM - Mar 09, 2009, edited 1 time in total.
Unread postMar 05, 2009#19
Ok, officially started the heating pad deal... whoa. Ladies, if you haven't done this, DO IT. I used hops tincture mixed with cocoa butter lotion last night, and fenugreek tincture this morning with borage lotion, just slathered it on, put on a sheet of saran wrap (fun!), and covered with the heat pad for 15 minutes (then massage a bit after). I can practically FEEL my breasts growing under the heat! I am serious. All the blood rushes to the boobs and the itching and tingling happens... WOW. Now I finally feel like I am serious about this and I think the heating pad is going to be KEY for me.
I am happy.
:-)
A funny "side effect" of my NBE journey so far is that after all my research I am tempted to become an herbalist!!! Fascinating stuff.
Unread postMar 09, 2009#20
Just checking in to report that I am trucking through my period right now with pretty mild cramps compared to the last 20 years of this monthly mess!!! I have not taken any ibuprofin and I'm still alive! Amazing. So it's true that NBE herbs are helping me with my womanliness. ;-)
Unfortunately, however, lately I have completely lost my sex drive. This SUCKS, and is completely unusual for me. I am praying that it's just a phase.
My breasts have been more sensitive than normal, but that is all that has happened for me so far. Not a speck of growth. I am nowhere near calling it quits thought. I am working on integrating the pansyclub massage/acupressure. Feels awesome. And the heating pad is my new favorite thing.
I am upping my SP to twice a day and the new royal jelly that I bought is a higher dose, and also has bee propolis and bee pollen in it too.
Hoping still for results soon. Fingers crossed.
:-)
Happy growing to all of us.
Also, just this morning I was taking a walk and I could feel my boobs BOUNCE as I walked along...! This may not seem like a big deal to some women, but trust me I have never had the pleasure of this sensation. I don't wear a bra, but normally I am not aware of my breasts at ALL, ever, even if I were running. And there I was just walking along and I felt this dreamy ...bounce...bounce...bounce...bounce... OMG! I had the biggest grin on my face, anyone who saw me would have thought I was nuts.
I measured around my bust this morning and I am back up to 32 inches, which is where I started, but somehow in there I lost half an inch. Whew, got it back! There is definitely something happening now. My skin broke out for the first few days on the capsules but it's clearing up now and I feel great.
When I actually stop and think that this might really work, that I might really be a B cup someday, I nearly cry out of joy. I cannot WAIT to buy a beautiful bra. I keep thinking about how amazing that is going to feel.
Ok, happy growing everyone!
Unread postFeb 18, 2009#12
Well, I must be doing something right, because I feel GREAT!
This boobie obsession of mine is serious now, and I am having dreams about boobs all the time. I think this is a good sign. My subconscious definitely knows what I have in mind!
There are a few things I am going to start doing. One is to look at a picture of my ideal breasts every day. Maybe even carry a picture in my purse. I found a celebrity who has the "perfect pair", so that's my goal. It might be reaching too far for my frame but I will be happy with any success. (She's probably a C cup and I am AA). Maybe I could just have a slightly smaller version of her breasts. ;-)
Also, today I discovered ANDREW DOBSON. I fell in love immediately. He is a hypnotist who I believe is Australian. I watched a video of him explaining hypnosis and that's how I knew I could trust this man. I also did a free hypnosis on his website for fear of spiders and he had me laughing so hard by the end that I was crying. So I am just about to buy his breast enhancement cd. I'm very excited!
I have been so disciplined this last week about taking my herbs and eating boobie foods. I feel so positive right now, it's fantastic. I think the hemp protein smoothie I am drinking every day is doing wonders for my sense of well being. Maybe it's the maca in there.
Anyhoo, just checking in and hope to have a good report soon.
:-)
Unread postFeb 22, 2009#13
Changin' it up one more time again! I can't really explain why, I guess I am just following my intuition. Just a slight adjustment.
A.M.
-------
fenugreek 610 mg, 2 capsules
pumpkin seed oil 1000mg, 1 gelcap
red clover 350mg, 3 capsules
evening primrose oil 500mg, 1 gelcap
handful o' sesame seeds
hemp protein smoothie (contains maca)
massage smaller breast with borage lotion
AFTERNOON
------------
red clover 350mg, 3 capsules
evening primrose oil 500mg, 1 gelcap
dong quai 550mg, 1 capsule
flax oil 2 spoonfuls in yogurt
chicken feet broth/miso soup
handful fennel seeds
cup of fenugreek tea
P.M.
--------
fenugreek 610 mg, 2 capsules
saw palmetto extract 160mg, 1 gelcap
red clover 350mg, 3 capsules
evening primrose oil 500mg, 1 gelcap
handful o' sesame seeds
massage smaller breast with borage lotion
and sometimes, a beer (for the hops!)
I can still say I am amazed how much more potent the capsules are than the liquid extracts were. I think once I started taking the red clover capsules my body went through a detox. It turns out that this herb is a blood purifier! Who knew? Has lots of health benefits, so I am glad to be taking it. I am actually still sick but it feels like my body is just throwing off a bunch of toxins.
I am considering ordering some PM cream for my smaller breast. Oh and I still haven't ordered the Andrew Dobson hypnosis but I really want to.
:-)
Happy growing!
Unread postFeb 24, 2009#14
I am continuously learning new stuff on this web forum. It's so awesome. And I feel like I should post every time a make a new discovery.
I believe that I have excess testosterone. It would explain a lot of what I have been going through for the past 20 years. It kinda makes me mad that nobody noticed it when I was a teenager, but, life goes on. I have always had terrible acne and problems with anger. Bad. I have always been skinny and kinda aggressive, and had trouble making friends with girls. I mean, dang! How did all this go unnoticed?!? I always suspected there was something wrong with me. I haven't felt feminine since I was a little girl.
So. I have read that taking saw palmetto together with pumpkin seed oil is a great attack plan on the testosterone thing. So that's why I am taking pumpkin seed oil in the morning and SP at night. And I just read about spearmint tea being great to reduce testosterone and I am SO EXCITED because I love that stuff. It won't be hard at all to integrate that in my routine. I will start having 2 cups a day. Also I am worried about some extra acne I have had recently after I thought I cleared it up, so I am going to bring my EPO back down after reading that is can cause acne in some people. I had been maintaining a good menstrual cycle before this NBE thing by taking just one EPO gelcap a day so I guess that's all I need.
And I am so tempted to buy PM cream but I feel like I should wait and see what happens after I can bring my testosterone down (hopefully). I don't want to try to do too much all at once. Oh another thing I read was that a combo of lavender and tea tree oil suppresses testosterone and I just happen to have lavender lotion right next to a bottle of tea tree oil in my bathroom right now, so that will be my new massage mixture for a while.
WOW! This is fun. Crazy stuff.
I just took pictures of myself that look identical to my starting pictures from 4 months ago, so I won't be posting those yet. But I am convinced that I will be successful and I look forward to posting pictures that show results sometime in the next few months.
:-)
~LaReve
Unread postFeb 27, 2009#15
I started getting random nosebleeds this past week and I think it is due to the red clover and saw palmetto, both of which can have an effect on blood/bleeding. I posted about it on the main forum just to get everyone thinking about being cautious. I think it's so important to research the herbs we are taking. Lucky for me since I had read extensively on my herbs, I knew that blood thinning could be a side effect.
Anyhow, I don't have proof but I don't want to take any chances, so I am going to stop taking RC and SP immediately. I want all that stuff out of my system. In the meantime I will be regrouping and coming up with a new plan. I already bought pumpkin seed oil so I'll start taking that twice a day and I suppose I need to find a new phytoestrogen source. I might just kick it into high gear with boobie foods and massage. I've definitely increased my soy intake so that's good.
Oooh! Also I bought some tea that's made for nursing women that is loaded with galactagogues and tastes really yummy. It's called Mother's Milk, it's made by Traditional Medicinals.
Unread postFeb 27, 2009#16
Hi LaReve,
I don't know how the weather is where you live, but could the dryness of the air right now be a cause for your nose bleeding? Where I live, the air is very dry this time of year and sometimes it can give people a bloody nose. I remember when I used to share a room with my sister, I woke up one night and noticed that she had blood smudged on her face- it looked pretty scary! but it just happened because the air was too dry.
Of course, it's still a good idea to keep tabs on the dosage of whatever supplements/herbs you may be taking.

// Halleeday
// Halleeday
Unread postFeb 27, 2009#17
It's certainly possible that my nosebleeds were caused by something completely different. But I have lived in the same area for 4 years and these are my first nosebleeds.
I guess I am being over cautious, but what I read about the herbs really makes me feel like I might be one of a handful of people who has strange side effects. I'm sure that everyone on the message board isn't going to come down with nosebleeds! I just saw a possible link between my herbs and my symptoms and it's worth it to me to change up to be on the safe side.
:-)
I think I'm gonna dive head first into royal jelly now! I've been reading up on it and it sounds awesome.
~LaReve
Unread postMar 03, 2009#18
So after my nosebleeds I realized my gums have been bleeding a lot (when I brush my teeth) lately too and what a drag! No idea if it's truly because of my herbs, but I officially cut out red clover. I'm not ready to give up my other herbs yet, I'm going to see how things go without red clover and if there's no change I might have to make more adjustments. ALso I have slowed down on the sesame seeds cause they keep getting stuck all up in my teeth.
Also lately I have been so slack about massaging and I am making myself a promise to get back to that because it's obvious that the gals around here who have gotten the best results have been avid massagers.
My program as it is now:
A.M.
-------
fenugreek 610 mg, 2 capsules
pumpkin seed oil 1000mg, 1 gelcap
hemp protein smoothie (contains maca) made w/ soy milk
royal jelly 314 mg
handful fennel seeds
cup of spearmint tea
massage smaller breast with lotion
AFTERNOON
------------
fenugreek 610mg, 2 capsules
evening primrose oil 500mg, 1 gelcap
dong quai 550mg, 1 capsule
chicken feet broth/miso soup (almost every day)
handful fennel seeds
cup of "Mother's Milk" tea
P.M.
--------
fenugreek 610 mg, 2 capsules
saw palmetto extract 160mg, 1 gelcap
royal jelly 314 mg
handful fennel seeds
massage smaller breast with lotion
The lotion I am using is either borage lotion or a mix of lavender and tea tree lotion. My goal is to do this more regularly and I want to start using a heating pad.
Sometimes I drink more tea than I have listed, because I am loving these herb teas. I have cut down on my alcohol consumption.
My measurements are still the same. I am about to start my period and I didn't even get premenstrual swelling in my boobs this month. Weird... I also didn't break out, my face actually cleared up. I did my fair share of crying over the past few days though!
Last edited by LaReve on 1:55 AM - Mar 09, 2009, edited 1 time in total.
Unread postMar 05, 2009#19
Ok, officially started the heating pad deal... whoa. Ladies, if you haven't done this, DO IT. I used hops tincture mixed with cocoa butter lotion last night, and fenugreek tincture this morning with borage lotion, just slathered it on, put on a sheet of saran wrap (fun!), and covered with the heat pad for 15 minutes (then massage a bit after). I can practically FEEL my breasts growing under the heat! I am serious. All the blood rushes to the boobs and the itching and tingling happens... WOW. Now I finally feel like I am serious about this and I think the heating pad is going to be KEY for me.
I am happy.
:-)
A funny "side effect" of my NBE journey so far is that after all my research I am tempted to become an herbalist!!! Fascinating stuff.
Unread postMar 09, 2009#20
Just checking in to report that I am trucking through my period right now with pretty mild cramps compared to the last 20 years of this monthly mess!!! I have not taken any ibuprofin and I'm still alive! Amazing. So it's true that NBE herbs are helping me with my womanliness. ;-)
Unfortunately, however, lately I have completely lost my sex drive. This SUCKS, and is completely unusual for me. I am praying that it's just a phase.
My breasts have been more sensitive than normal, but that is all that has happened for me so far. Not a speck of growth. I am nowhere near calling it quits thought. I am working on integrating the pansyclub massage/acupressure. Feels awesome. And the heating pad is my new favorite thing.
I am upping my SP to twice a day and the new royal jelly that I bought is a higher dose, and also has bee propolis and bee pollen in it too.
Hoping still for results soon. Fingers crossed.
:-)
Happy growing to all of us.