[Eve M]

Back from visiting with the in-laws. While I was gone I grew another 1/2 inch. I thought I was bigger but hadn't brought the tape measure along so I had to wait until I got home before verifying it. I'm a little surprised as I was only doing a condensed version of my usual program. Curious. Not complaining though! So, yesterday I finally went bra shopping and tried on a bunch of 34A's and none fit. Yay! Tried on a bunch of 34B's and they did fit. Double yay! I wanted to try on some 34C's just for fun but they didn't have any in stock at the time. I'll have to try a different store next time. I started back with my NB two nights ago and pumped for 20 2x and will gradually work up to 45 min twice daily. I also started using magnets again.
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Unread postAug 19, 2008#32

Starting stats as of mid August 2007:

Sex: Female
Age: 43
Ht: 5'1.5"
Wt: 108-111lbs
Bust: 32.5"
Underbust: 29.5"
Bra size: 34AA
Children: 1
Breastfed: 7 months

Non-smoker, non-drinker, don't drink pop, coffee or tea (except herbal tea), lacto-ovo vegetarian.

Program:

Fennel 500 mg
Fenugreek 3000 mg
Hops 1860 mg
Oats 1000 mg
Soya 1500 mg
Saw Palmetto 3000 mg
Wild Yam 3000 mg
EPO 3000 mg
Flaxseed Oil 3000 mg
Borage Oil 2000 mg
Nettle Root 1000 mg
Flaxseed meal 1 tbsp (goes on my cereal in the morning)

The pills are divided up and taken 3x a day on an empty stomach before breakfast, supper and bedtime.

Massage:

I follow the Tigerlily/Fengshui and Pansyclub massages for 20 minutes. My massage oil consists of EPO and Borage oil mixed with Hops, Soya, Oats and Fennel. After that I use a heating pad for 20 minutes and drink 1 tbsp each Barley, Alfalfa, Brewers Yeast and gelatin mixed in water.

Teas:

I have tea once a day in the evening. I make it with 1 tsp each Cumin, Fennel, Nettle leaf, Hops and whatever else is handy to mask the taste.

Diet:

I follow the Yin/Yang system (booby foods). I also supplement my diet with protein shakes. I try to avoid sugar, white flour and overly processed foods.

Other:

Once a week I listen to a hypnosis CD. I use affirmations and visualization as often as possible throughout the day.




**Any comments or questions are welcome on this board**

Starting May 28 I ramped up the amounts of the first 8 herbs in my program.


Barley 1600 mg
Alfalfa 800 mg
Fennel 800 mg
Fenugreek 3600 mg
Hops 3600 mg
Flaxseed 2000 mg
Oats 1600 mg
Soya 2250 mg*
Wild yam 2000 mg
Nettle root 2000 mg
Saw palmetto 1000 mg*
EPO 3000 mg*
Flaxseed oil 3000 mg*


Everything is in dried form except those that are marked with an asterisk (those are in capsules). The rest is weighed with a scale and eaten once a day in the evening before bed.

Tea:

Same as before.

NB:

I use my breast pump 2x a day for 45 minutes. I'm still in the medium cups but should be out of them within the next month. I tried the comfort rings but couldn't keep any suction with them. I will try them again later when I'm closer to outgrowing the mediums. I use sweet almond oil with a few drops of lavender oil in it before pumping. The last time I used lavender oil I got a rash because I used too much. After pumping I apply the same booby paste as before (hops, oats, soya and borage oil) and leave it on overnight.

Diet:

Booby foods. I've all but given up on protein shakes. I just can't seem to digest them very well despite taking digestive enzymes and stuff. After using my NB in the evening I drink the same mixture of 1 tbsp gelatin and brewer's yeast-sometimes I add chlorophyll too.

Magnets:

I started back on magnets July 12 and have been wearing them overnight ever since. No problems to report so far.

Other:

Still doing affirmations and visualization.
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Unread postAug 19, 2008#33

Starting stats as of mid August 2007:

Sex: Female
Age: 43
Ht: 5'1.5"
Wt: 108-111lbs
Bust: 32.5"
Underbust: 29.5"
Bra size: 34AA
Children: 1
Breastfed: 7 months

Non-smoker, non-drinker, don't drink pop, coffee or tea (except herbal tea), lacto-ovo vegetarian.

Program:

Fennel 500 mg
Fenugreek 3000 mg
Hops 1860 mg
Oats 1000 mg
Soya 1500 mg
Saw Palmetto 3000 mg
Wild Yam 3000 mg
EPO 3000 mg
Flaxseed Oil 3000 mg
Borage Oil 2000 mg
Nettle Root 1000 mg
Flaxseed meal 1 tbsp (goes on my cereal in the morning)

The pills are divided up and taken 3x a day on an empty stomach before breakfast, supper and bedtime.

Massage:

I follow the Tigerlily/Fengshui and Pansyclub massages for 20 minutes. My massage oil consists of EPO and Borage oil mixed with Hops, Soya, Oats and Fennel. After that I use a heating pad for 20 minutes and drink 1 tbsp each Barley, Alfalfa, Brewers Yeast and gelatin mixed in water.

Teas:

I have tea once a day in the evening. I make it with 1 tsp each Cumin, Fennel, Nettle leaf, Hops and whatever else is handy to mask the taste.

Diet:

I follow the Yin/Yang system (booby foods). I also supplement my diet with protein shakes. I try to avoid sugar, white flour and overly processed foods.

Other:

Once a week I listen to a hypnosis CD. I use affirmations and visualization as often as possible throughout the day.




**Any comments or questions are welcome on this board**

I've grown another 1/2 inch. That's 3 1/2 inches so far. I started my program 1 year ago this week. My growth rate was less consistent before but now it's 1/2 inch per month. It picked up when I doubled the amounts of some of the herbs back in May. I am going to continue this program until at least Feb of next year.

Sept 07 1"
Dec 07 1/2"
Apr 08 1/2"
June 08 1/2"
July 08 1/2"
Aug 08 1/2"


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Debbie







Unread postSep 11, 2008#34

Starting stats as of mid August 2007:

Sex: Female
Age: 43
Ht: 5'1.5"
Wt: 108-111lbs
Bust: 32.5"
Underbust: 29.5"
Bra size: 34AA
Children: 1
Breastfed: 7 months

Non-smoker, non-drinker, don't drink pop, coffee or tea (except herbal tea), lacto-ovo vegetarian.

Program:

Fennel 500 mg
Fenugreek 3000 mg
Hops 1860 mg
Oats 1000 mg
Soya 1500 mg
Saw Palmetto 3000 mg
Wild Yam 3000 mg
EPO 3000 mg
Flaxseed Oil 3000 mg
Borage Oil 2000 mg
Nettle Root 1000 mg
Flaxseed meal 1 tbsp (goes on my cereal in the morning)

The pills are divided up and taken 3x a day on an empty stomach before breakfast, supper and bedtime.

Massage:

I follow the Tigerlily/Fengshui and Pansyclub massages for 20 minutes. My massage oil consists of EPO and Borage oil mixed with Hops, Soya, Oats and Fennel. After that I use a heating pad for 20 minutes and drink 1 tbsp each Barley, Alfalfa, Brewers Yeast and gelatin mixed in water.

Teas:

I have tea once a day in the evening. I make it with 1 tsp each Cumin, Fennel, Nettle leaf, Hops and whatever else is handy to mask the taste.

Diet:

I follow the Yin/Yang system (booby foods). I also supplement my diet with protein shakes. I try to avoid sugar, white flour and overly processed foods.

Other:

Once a week I listen to a hypnosis CD. I use affirmations and visualization as often as possible throughout the day.




**Any comments or questions are welcome on this board**

Was wondering how the NHRT (Progesterone cream with Estrogen & testosterone in troche form) will work with the BE herbs. Blood tests confirmed I was very low in everything. But because I am desperate to know what it's like to have real breasts, not just a ribcage, I started on Full Potential pills 5mths ago plus massaging religously 2xaday with RO-Bust cream. Absolutely nothing. So maybe someone out there might know something, thanks
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Unread postSep 11, 2008#35

Starting stats as of mid August 2007:

Sex: Female
Age: 43
Ht: 5'1.5"
Wt: 108-111lbs
Bust: 32.5"
Underbust: 29.5"
Bra size: 34AA
Children: 1
Breastfed: 7 months

Non-smoker, non-drinker, don't drink pop, coffee or tea (except herbal tea), lacto-ovo vegetarian.

Program:

Fennel 500 mg
Fenugreek 3000 mg
Hops 1860 mg
Oats 1000 mg
Soya 1500 mg
Saw Palmetto 3000 mg
Wild Yam 3000 mg
EPO 3000 mg
Flaxseed Oil 3000 mg
Borage Oil 2000 mg
Nettle Root 1000 mg
Flaxseed meal 1 tbsp (goes on my cereal in the morning)

The pills are divided up and taken 3x a day on an empty stomach before breakfast, supper and bedtime.

Massage:

I follow the Tigerlily/Fengshui and Pansyclub massages for 20 minutes. My massage oil consists of EPO and Borage oil mixed with Hops, Soya, Oats and Fennel. After that I use a heating pad for 20 minutes and drink 1 tbsp each Barley, Alfalfa, Brewers Yeast and gelatin mixed in water.

Teas:

I have tea once a day in the evening. I make it with 1 tsp each Cumin, Fennel, Nettle leaf, Hops and whatever else is handy to mask the taste.

Diet:

I follow the Yin/Yang system (booby foods). I also supplement my diet with protein shakes. I try to avoid sugar, white flour and overly processed foods.

Other:

Once a week I listen to a hypnosis CD. I use affirmations and visualization as often as possible throughout the day.




**Any comments or questions are welcome on this board**

Hi Debbie,

I think your questions should be posted on the main forum. I'm not familiar with any of the things you mentioned. I'm also pretty much the only person who posts here (other than the occasional guest). The best person to ask about hormonal issues is Waxingmoon-she is very knowledgeable about all that stuff. I'm still learning so I'm sorry I can't be of any help. Main forum link is below. Good luck on your quest. Cheers.


http://www.network54.com/Forum/371678/
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Izumi







Unread postOct 17, 2008#36

Starting stats as of mid August 2007:

Sex: Female
Age: 43
Ht: 5'1.5"
Wt: 108-111lbs
Bust: 32.5"
Underbust: 29.5"
Bra size: 34AA
Children: 1
Breastfed: 7 months

Non-smoker, non-drinker, don't drink pop, coffee or tea (except herbal tea), lacto-ovo vegetarian.

Program:

Fennel 500 mg
Fenugreek 3000 mg
Hops 1860 mg
Oats 1000 mg
Soya 1500 mg
Saw Palmetto 3000 mg
Wild Yam 3000 mg
EPO 3000 mg
Flaxseed Oil 3000 mg
Borage Oil 2000 mg
Nettle Root 1000 mg
Flaxseed meal 1 tbsp (goes on my cereal in the morning)

The pills are divided up and taken 3x a day on an empty stomach before breakfast, supper and bedtime.

Massage:

I follow the Tigerlily/Fengshui and Pansyclub massages for 20 minutes. My massage oil consists of EPO and Borage oil mixed with Hops, Soya, Oats and Fennel. After that I use a heating pad for 20 minutes and drink 1 tbsp each Barley, Alfalfa, Brewers Yeast and gelatin mixed in water.

Teas:

I have tea once a day in the evening. I make it with 1 tsp each Cumin, Fennel, Nettle leaf, Hops and whatever else is handy to mask the taste.

Diet:

I follow the Yin/Yang system (booby foods). I also supplement my diet with protein shakes. I try to avoid sugar, white flour and overly processed foods.

Other:

Once a week I listen to a hypnosis CD. I use affirmations and visualization as often as possible throughout the day.




**Any comments or questions are welcome on this board**

Hi Frosted Mint,

I was referred to your program by another senior member, and I am very impressed with your results. I have a couple of questions for you; hope you don't mind.

I'm curious about the breast pump, but it sounds a little scary. How does it work? Is it painful, or is there any risk of tissue damage involved?

Please forgive me if this info is available somewhere else on the site. I'm new to the forum so haven't had a chance to explore everything.

Also, did you do a hormone test before starting your program?
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Unread postOct 17, 2008#37

Starting stats as of mid August 2007:

Sex: Female
Age: 43
Ht: 5'1.5"
Wt: 108-111lbs
Bust: 32.5"
Underbust: 29.5"
Bra size: 34AA
Children: 1
Breastfed: 7 months

Non-smoker, non-drinker, don't drink pop, coffee or tea (except herbal tea), lacto-ovo vegetarian.

Program:

Fennel 500 mg
Fenugreek 3000 mg
Hops 1860 mg
Oats 1000 mg
Soya 1500 mg
Saw Palmetto 3000 mg
Wild Yam 3000 mg
EPO 3000 mg
Flaxseed Oil 3000 mg
Borage Oil 2000 mg
Nettle Root 1000 mg
Flaxseed meal 1 tbsp (goes on my cereal in the morning)

The pills are divided up and taken 3x a day on an empty stomach before breakfast, supper and bedtime.

Massage:

I follow the Tigerlily/Fengshui and Pansyclub massages for 20 minutes. My massage oil consists of EPO and Borage oil mixed with Hops, Soya, Oats and Fennel. After that I use a heating pad for 20 minutes and drink 1 tbsp each Barley, Alfalfa, Brewers Yeast and gelatin mixed in water.

Teas:

I have tea once a day in the evening. I make it with 1 tsp each Cumin, Fennel, Nettle leaf, Hops and whatever else is handy to mask the taste.

Diet:

I follow the Yin/Yang system (booby foods). I also supplement my diet with protein shakes. I try to avoid sugar, white flour and overly processed foods.

Other:

Once a week I listen to a hypnosis CD. I use affirmations and visualization as often as possible throughout the day.




**Any comments or questions are welcome on this board**

Hi Izumi,

My breast pump comes from Noogleberry (NB for short). You can find more information about it on their website http://noogleberry.com/. It's not scary or painful. It's just two plastic domes that fit over the breasts, tubing and a hand pump. It works on the principle of tissue expansion. There are better explanations of how it's works out there but I can't find them but that's basically the idea. The notion is that tissue expansion will create new breast cells. Something like that! I haven't heard of anybody having any major problems with it so far. I'm currently on a break from it because my skin is sensitive and prone to rashes but will be starting it up again soon. As for hormone testing I didn't do anything official like a blood or saliva test. I figured that I had excess androgens just based on my symptoms. Hope that helps. Cheers.
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Unread postOct 24, 2008#38

Starting stats as of mid August 2007:

Sex: Female
Age: 43
Ht: 5'1.5"
Wt: 108-111lbs
Bust: 32.5"
Underbust: 29.5"
Bra size: 34AA
Children: 1
Breastfed: 7 months

Non-smoker, non-drinker, don't drink pop, coffee or tea (except herbal tea), lacto-ovo vegetarian.

Program:

Fennel 500 mg
Fenugreek 3000 mg
Hops 1860 mg
Oats 1000 mg
Soya 1500 mg
Saw Palmetto 3000 mg
Wild Yam 3000 mg
EPO 3000 mg
Flaxseed Oil 3000 mg
Borage Oil 2000 mg
Nettle Root 1000 mg
Flaxseed meal 1 tbsp (goes on my cereal in the morning)

The pills are divided up and taken 3x a day on an empty stomach before breakfast, supper and bedtime.

Massage:

I follow the Tigerlily/Fengshui and Pansyclub massages for 20 minutes. My massage oil consists of EPO and Borage oil mixed with Hops, Soya, Oats and Fennel. After that I use a heating pad for 20 minutes and drink 1 tbsp each Barley, Alfalfa, Brewers Yeast and gelatin mixed in water.

Teas:

I have tea once a day in the evening. I make it with 1 tsp each Cumin, Fennel, Nettle leaf, Hops and whatever else is handy to mask the taste.

Diet:

I follow the Yin/Yang system (booby foods). I also supplement my diet with protein shakes. I try to avoid sugar, white flour and overly processed foods.

Other:

Once a week I listen to a hypnosis CD. I use affirmations and visualization as often as possible throughout the day.




**Any comments or questions are welcome on this board**

A week ago I added pumpkin seed oil and pygeum to my program. That's 5 androgen blockers now. I was hoping to replace the SP eventually so we'll see how this goes.

Nettle root 2000mg
Saw palmetto 2000mg
Pumpkin seed oil 3000mg
pygeum 100 mg
Spearmint tea 1 cup a day
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Unread postDec 04, 2008#39

Starting stats as of mid August 2007:

Sex: Female
Age: 43
Ht: 5'1.5"
Wt: 108-111lbs
Bust: 32.5"
Underbust: 29.5"
Bra size: 34AA
Children: 1
Breastfed: 7 months

Non-smoker, non-drinker, don't drink pop, coffee or tea (except herbal tea), lacto-ovo vegetarian.

Program:

Fennel 500 mg
Fenugreek 3000 mg
Hops 1860 mg
Oats 1000 mg
Soya 1500 mg
Saw Palmetto 3000 mg
Wild Yam 3000 mg
EPO 3000 mg
Flaxseed Oil 3000 mg
Borage Oil 2000 mg
Nettle Root 1000 mg
Flaxseed meal 1 tbsp (goes on my cereal in the morning)

The pills are divided up and taken 3x a day on an empty stomach before breakfast, supper and bedtime.

Massage:

I follow the Tigerlily/Fengshui and Pansyclub massages for 20 minutes. My massage oil consists of EPO and Borage oil mixed with Hops, Soya, Oats and Fennel. After that I use a heating pad for 20 minutes and drink 1 tbsp each Barley, Alfalfa, Brewers Yeast and gelatin mixed in water.

Teas:

I have tea once a day in the evening. I make it with 1 tsp each Cumin, Fennel, Nettle leaf, Hops and whatever else is handy to mask the taste.

Diet:

I follow the Yin/Yang system (booby foods). I also supplement my diet with protein shakes. I try to avoid sugar, white flour and overly processed foods.

Other:

Once a week I listen to a hypnosis CD. I use affirmations and visualization as often as possible throughout the day.




**Any comments or questions are welcome on this board**

I've been taking pumpkinseed oil and pygeum for a month and half now and I have to say they are working for me. My hormones seem completely balanced now. All my previous symptoms are gone. At last! I've also made a bigger effort to reduce the amount of sugar in my diet which of course helps as well. Not sure which has been more effective, the diet or the extra supplements but I think they have both helped.
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Unread postMar 08, 2009#40

Starting stats as of mid August 2007:

Sex: Female
Age: 43
Ht: 5'1.5"
Wt: 108-111lbs
Bust: 32.5"
Underbust: 29.5"
Bra size: 34AA
Children: 1
Breastfed: 7 months

Non-smoker, non-drinker, don't drink pop, coffee or tea (except herbal tea), lacto-ovo vegetarian.

Program:

Fennel 500 mg
Fenugreek 3000 mg
Hops 1860 mg
Oats 1000 mg
Soya 1500 mg
Saw Palmetto 3000 mg
Wild Yam 3000 mg
EPO 3000 mg
Flaxseed Oil 3000 mg
Borage Oil 2000 mg
Nettle Root 1000 mg
Flaxseed meal 1 tbsp (goes on my cereal in the morning)

The pills are divided up and taken 3x a day on an empty stomach before breakfast, supper and bedtime.

Massage:

I follow the Tigerlily/Fengshui and Pansyclub massages for 20 minutes. My massage oil consists of EPO and Borage oil mixed with Hops, Soya, Oats and Fennel. After that I use a heating pad for 20 minutes and drink 1 tbsp each Barley, Alfalfa, Brewers Yeast and gelatin mixed in water.

Teas:

I have tea once a day in the evening. I make it with 1 tsp each Cumin, Fennel, Nettle leaf, Hops and whatever else is handy to mask the taste.

Diet:

I follow the Yin/Yang system (booby foods). I also supplement my diet with protein shakes. I try to avoid sugar, white flour and overly processed foods.

Other:

Once a week I listen to a hypnosis CD. I use affirmations and visualization as often as possible throughout the day.




**Any comments or questions are welcome on this board**

Hi, I noticed that you breastfed and I was just wondering if you noticed any lactation side effects.
I never completely stopped lactating (I get a little discharge when really stimulated or freezing cold) and Im worried that the galacto's and massage will make me fill up with milk.
I did massage for 3 days and started getting that milk filling/let down feeling in them, so I stopped.