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After doing some more reading, i think now that i started this routine way too hard. Maybe i should have started with lower doses so i could ramp up. (gee you'd think i would have already known this....duh!!!) But i have been away from here for a short time and instead of reviewing i hit it with everyting i got.

So now i have decided that tarting tomorrow i will lower my doses, taking the FG and fennel only twice daily, instead of 3x daily, and the EPO(since it's 1000mg) once daily,which isn't differant than i have been.

I have felt a small bit of fullness but not what i felt in Dec when i did this the first time around(then decided to wait per Wahaika's theory).

So, my routine is the same except i am only going to take:
Fg 2x daily
Fennel 2x daily.

Also, having done more reading think i will lokk into getting some pumpkin seed oil and GABA or is it PABA....damn...can't rememver...will hvave to look it up on here, but i read that a womanof my age(43) should one of those when doing NBE....guess it's back to reading. Well i guess you can never learn too much!

Happy growing!
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Unread postApr 01, 2009#12

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

HA!!!! found it...its GABA that is recommended for when in their 40's....ok....now to see if it can be bought at a store or if i gotta order it...either way i'm gettin' it.

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Unread postApr 06, 2009#13

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

I have lowered my doses of FG and fennel to 2x daily as of today hoping to catch it before my body decides to stall....def dont want that.

I have been massaging 2x daily followed with heat only at night( do not have time for heat in the morn. And after reading one of Wahaika's posts, have wrapped in Saran wrap during heat at night. Unfortunatly, I can only do the heat mon - thurs, cuz fri thru thurs, i stay at my BF and he doesn't know i am doing NBE.

also encouraging that Wahaika statest that those who exericise tend to do better with NBE cuz they have better circulation. I started combo cardio and firming exercises approx one month approx 3-4 times a weeka nd try to walk 20 mins on sat or sun, depending on the weather.

I am starting to feel fullness again...finally after not doing the herbs for a few weeks in jan and feb and doing the stupid move of taking a fat burner( again, what was i thinking?)

Victoria secret bikini here i come!!!!!
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Unread postApr 06, 2009#14

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Oh yea, just a note....i was concerned b/c i hadn't felt any pains like i did back in dec when i had some smalll growth. but the last couple of days i have felt increased sensativity although no pains but i still fell encouraged
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Unread postApr 15, 2009#15

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Ok per the advice of Wahaika, I added SP back into my routine on friday april 10. Just one at night and then take 2 NR during the day. Wahaika thinks that maybe with wirking out i may be able to ward off the weight gain.

Also i tried a light choco soy on sat(4/11) and really enjoyed it. It comes in half gallon and i finished in by monday. TOmorrow i am buying more but will also get protein powder. Mix it with the soy, once in the morning and once either at lunch of right before dinner so then i will eat less. And that will be about 2 hours before my workout so i won't be trying to workout with a full stomach(doesn't owrk!)

I may look into geletin and collagen also. Can't hurt. I just hope the workouts keep the weight off....i gotta wear the bikini!!!!!
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Unread postApr 22, 2009#16

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

I stated the i decreased the fg and fennl to only 2x daily but somewhere in the mix of getting my herbs to gether each morning i forgot this and went bakc to 3QD. What an idiot!
I added SP only 1 time at night on April 10. I started my period on April 16 and quit today. So not sure if it has effected my either with growth in boobs or around the middle(def NOT what i want)
I asked Wahaika what he thinks about my routine and if i should take a weeks break, continue as if, increase/decrease anything. Just snet it so will check in a couple days for his advice.

Until then i will just keep the SP at 1x at night and maybe decrease the fg and fennel to 2xQD. But if i have already stalled then this will do nothing. I don't want to waste the prime growing time tho.....
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Unread postMay 16, 2009#17

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Ok since i was seing no growthi decided to do the stalling test beginning last sat. And i have seen no chnages so according to what i have ben told, this means i was not stalled. So i started my herbs again today.

On may 12 i began to take prenatel vits d/t a bad ahir cut and i know this will increase the hair growth. Plus it is full of great vits.

TOday, i started with
Fg 610mg 2xdaily
EPO 500mg 2xdaily
Prenatel vit 1x daily
Sp 540mg 1x daily

i willcontinue to massage with coca butter with vit e and follow witha massage of vit e

This week on payday i will order wild yam. i may order more nettle root and some pumkin oil and try that instead of the SP cuz i do not want to gain weight. however, i was on the SP for about 3 weeks and no weight gain occured. Maybe d/t the 3-4 days of workout and better eating.

Keeping ifngers crossed that i get something like so many others have thispast month!!!!
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Unread postMay 16, 2009#18

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Good luck! Follow your heart and intuition,girl.I also take prenatal vitamins.Always have.Very affordable to.You WILL do this thing.I take SP,too.I am small,not worried about weight gain and neither should you,especially since you work out.Get them girls going,honey!!!!!
~~What you think about,you bring about~~

Mel C
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Unread postMay 16, 2009#19

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Hey Laise, would you mind explaining what a Stalling Test is?

And also, Ill send some boobie dust your way (instead of baby dust, boobie dust lol)
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Unread postMay 18, 2009#20

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Hey Buta. How you?

The stalling test is you stop taking all theherbs for 3-7 days. If you begin to grow AFTER you have stopped that means you have stalled. The longer it takes to feel change the more you have stalled. I read about it in the newbie section, decided to try it. i had no growth so i guess i didn't stall. SO yesterday i started backup with the herbs, at low doses. Iknow i can gain growth cuz i did it in dec(lost it withthe stupidness of taking a fat burner...duh!) So i am gonna start low and build. I was hoping to take nettelroot and get success ut it did nothing for me. So it's back to SP and i will make sure i work out 4-5 nights a week and watch closely what i eat.


Def pull up the newbie section and read it. Do you feel as if you have stalled?????

laisegirl