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Hey laisegirl,

Thank you for the boobie fairies! XD I'm starting to feel as though this routine is working. Glad to hear that your determination is beating down the frustration. That's good! We're on the same page. Yeah I have already started the msm. It's been about a week now. I began with 2g then worked my way up to 8g daily, but decided that maybe 6 would be enough.

And as for being the exception to the Spring/Summer rule, I certainly hope NOT! Lol! I would like to, no I have to have some boobage this summer. That's the best time to show them off lol. Anyhow hopefully things work out for you real soon. We can do this!
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Unread postJun 08, 2009#32

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Good for you girl......squash those boobie demons.You WILL do this.I am also gonna add some MSM,too.I am still getting results,little slower.I really won't know until I do updated pics next week......don't want to do it yet and jinx anything.
MSM will really help.You just keep that determination going.Do you take any pics----just for visual gauging for yourself? I am starting back on PM tonight at my night dose.I have missed it so much! AF left the building on Thursday.Can't wait until I just go into my "silent" cycles from the Depo.Just had my second shot last week.
My son and daughter-in-law are doing well.He is looking for a job.I told him not to get frustrated,it's hard for everyone now.I let him know he will find something.Keep pestering the ones that have openings.They'll either give you a job or ban you from the premises!Haha!
Keep me posted on the little one.Also,you will grow!
~~What you think about,you bring about~~

Mel C
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Unread postJul 03, 2009#33

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Shyboobs and MEL C...thank you both for you rowrds of encouragement. I hav been so busy lately this is the first chance i have had to get one...hopfully you will check and get this message.

MEL C - my daughter is dialated 2cm as of monday however she is only at 36 wks so we are hoping she waits atleast 2 more weeks. DOC says if she goes now he won't stop her but a couple more wks would be best. Of course hse is uncomfortable but she is getting excited. She is going to stay with me for the first couple days after the birth....and gee i am hating this idea...NOT!!!!! Can't wait! I keep getting weepy wheneve i think about it....

As far as growth well...not sure what to say. About 3 wks ago i started a routine of FG, WY, MSM, chromium FO-ty, EPO, prenatal vit, milk thistle...all 2x daily except the prenatal. Then about 1 wk ago i added NR 2x daily. About 5 dyas ago i startedfeelingfullness. I can't SEE any growth however my bra seems to fit snugger. I am not close to starting my period and futhermore the past few months i haven't gotten fullness right before i have started anyways. COuld i FINALLY be getting somewhere? I just checked that date and i started the routine on June 11. However I started the routine at 3x daily then on June 18, i went out of town( to a weekend bike rally...what a freakin blast!) anyways i ended up only getting the herbs in 2x daily( way to many other things going on to remember to take them) and decided when i got back to just keep it at 2x daily. Now i wonder if i was trying to hard before or couldit be the addtion of the MSM and WY. I decided NOT to take the SP due to possible weight gain. When i tried the NR earlier this yr it did nothing however i wasn't taking the WY or the MSM. I have not kept up on the massaging tho...until the last couple of days. SO who koows....i am trying not to get excited yet....

Last friday, my boss informed me that they were eliminating my position so they can remain viable in this tough economic times. Bulls*@t! I have helped her build that practice since she opened the first dya over 2 yrs ago. All they did was let me go and give all my work to thegirl under me making less money and hired a girl to do her work. But it's ok cuz it just means there is something better out there for me. But with jobs so scarce these days who knows when i will find one. Yea this is all i need with a grandbaby coming anyday, my daughter not being allowed to work and the father not working cuz the economy is so bad! Ok I know that GOD doesn't give us anything we can't handle. "when you are down knwo that GOD is up to something!"

I will take $30 and put in an order for more herbs so i don't run out soon and hope the money starts comin back in soon....

Sorry i had to vent.....heres to boobie gorwth...i hope
Laisegirl
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Unread postJul 03, 2009#34

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Way to go, girl! I'm proud of you for finding something that works for you! It seems we are both starting to get somewhere now. Man, does that feel great! Maybe we'll both have some actual boobage before summer ends after all.

Sorry about the job loss, I'm sure God will point you in the right direction for something even better. Take care and please keep us posted! XO
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Unread postJul 04, 2009#35

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

DMAN!DMAN!DAMN! I thought that maybe,just maybe this was growth. But no, i miss counted and damnit i started today! F*&#! What the hell???? Maybe i am just not suppose to have boobs. Maybe i am suppose to just be happy with what i have,which is so little that the wonder bra says " hey i gotta have SOMETHING to work with here!" AM i giving up? Not yet....just venting....
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Unread postJul 04, 2009#36

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Shyboobs, thanks for the encouragement, i know that GOD with direct me to where i need to be. Guess HE knew i wasn't happy there and even tho i wanted out of that job i wasn't making a good effort of looking for another job. Guess he decided it was time to kck me along.....so i know i will be ok.

GLad to read you are getting success with your growth....how long have you been at this?

laisegirl
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Unread postJul 05, 2009#37

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

That's OK! Nothin' wrong with venting every now and then. You sure feel better afterwards huh lol. You wanted to know how long I've been doing this...since I've been on a routine--7 months. For my new routine--since late May. I'm taking regular herbs now: FG, SP, WY + EPO, Flaxseed oil, MSM and a cup or 2 of soymilk. I be over at the other board alot nowadays and a girl named Flatmama (we often keep tabs on each other) had mentioned adding fennel and getting major sorness, plus she even grew/swelled a 1/4" on her PERIOD. I really think this might help me too. I double-checked a successful routine--which is like the model many girls look to--and the woman was also using fennel extract. So I'm replacing my FG extract with the fennel and see how that goes.

Here's the link in case you wanna check it out: http://beboard.proboards.com/index.cgi? ... hread=3012

Make sure to read the 1st 2 posts, so that you know what she used in her topicals as well. Since you're an AA(?) you shouldn't just start off @ the amounts she was taking though. Ramp up every couple days until you feel sensations, if you decided to try her routine out. I'm pretty sure something will work out for you, just hang in there!

PS. Even tho I'm still an AA myself, I think the PM had made me a lil more tolerant to regular herbs because I had to keep ramping to start seeing real growth...so I'm taking about the same amount as Pammy now (using Greenbush Enhancement Blend caps).
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Unread postSep 14, 2009#38

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Ok after taking a 2 wk break using prenatal; vit, milk thistle and Fo-ti(for hair growth) and MSM, and doing more research(one can never learn too much!) I started a new routine. I know Wahaika's theory is not to start a routine this time of yr, and i believe his theory, but i am going to anyways. Call me a fool!

Prenatal vit 1x daily
Fo-ti 500mg 2caps 2x daily then 1 caps in the evening
MSM 1000mg 2 caps 2x daily and then 1 cap in the evening
Biotin 1000mcg 1x daily
Milk Thistle 500 mg 3x daily
Cayanne 40,000stu 1-2x daily
Wild yam 1x at night
FG 610mg 1x at night
NR 500 mg 1x at night
EPO 500mg 1x at night
Pumpkin seed oil 1000 mg 1x at night

Massage with Cocoa butter and EPO 1x nightly.

I started about 1 wk ago with the WY, FG, NR, EPO and the PSO. THe rest i have been taking for about a month now. I did feel some growth with the addition of the MSM about a month ago. I just started the massaging back up about 1 wk ago also. I do have increased swelling this past few days however i am about to start my period so i am not gtting excited.

I will con't this amount of herbs for atleast a month or o before ramping up. I want to take things really slow this time so i won't stall. I know that i had growth back in dec when i was using SP but the weight gain caused me to stop using it. Hopwfully i will have success withthe NR and Pumpkin seed oil since that is waht is suggested to use instead of the SP.

I am determined NOT to get frustrated this time. I am determined to be patient. And if I see nothing by Christmas, then i will stop and take a vreak til spring. I just feel i need to give this a little extra time since it's the winter months. The prime growth time is over but i was unable to purchase the extra herbs until recently. Maybe I just need to do this now, depsite the timing, so i feel that i am atleast doing something.

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Unread postSep 25, 2009#39

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Ok due to wondering if taking the nettle root and/or the pumpkin seed oil has caused me to be on the edge of a UTI(in aug it was full blown and treated it myself), i have decided that for now i will discontinue it and see if this clears up fully or not. I didn't have this problem when i took the SP, however stopped that d/t weight gain. So for now my routine is:

Prenatal vit 1 daily
Fo-ti 500 mg 2-3 daily
Biotin 1000 mcg 1 daily
MSM 1000mg 4-5 daily
Vit c with Rose hips 500 mg 1 daily (igot the vit c wtih rose hips cuz that is one of the herbs on WU, thought it couldn't hurt)

Then in the evening, right before bed add:

EPO 500 mg 1
Wild Yam (810mg WY Root extract, and 190mg WY root) 1
FG 610 mg 1

i may also add fennel 480mg 1 at night, haven't decided yet.

I will keep it this way for a couple weeks and see if:
1) the UTI clears up fully
2) any pain tingles growth occur

Back in Nov/dec when i first started this journey, i had pain and tingles with taking the SP. But i had the weight gain too. BUT since i have been laid off, my eating habits have REALLY sucked and I haven't exercised. I allowed not working to get me off track so i have to get tough with myself and start eating right again and exercising. And then i may try the sp again or if the UTI doesn't clear then i will know it had nothing to do with the NR and PSO, so i may try that again. But still, i haven't had any tingles or pain being on them and very little growth so...........
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Unread postSep 25, 2009#40

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Oh and i will con't to massage with cocoa butter and EPO followed with Vit E atleast 1x daily