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stopped the nr and pso and the uti symtpons still con't. this sucks!

I may start the sp back up. i had growth back in dec with it and i haven't had any growth with the nr and pso...the weight gain is an issue. I have gained 5 pds since i have been off work and can't stand it. I restarted exercising but have to build back up to the full routine again. Talk about being out of shape!!!! Maybe i will work hte next tow weeks to drop the 5 pds then start the sp. if i get myself on a good exercise routine and a good eating routine, maybe i can avoid the weight gain this time. I know going into taking the sp this time that it will bring on the weight. So if i try to nip it in the bud before hand then maybe i can avoid it. Maybe i will drop 10 pds before taking and then if i gain the 5 bk, like last time, i will be where i want to be. HMMMMMM????????
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Unread postOct 09, 2009#42

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Hey laise,

Hope things are going well your way. Let us know how things work out for you on the SP! IF you don't notice improvement after a couple months, I think you should try GR. I'm givin' it another go now. IDK if you kept up on my posts, but that seemed to be the reason why I was growing on my other routine. I don't believe other herbs are as effective in my case...I only managed another .5" since switching to regular herbs from PM (measured wrong for the inch I thought I had, then shrank another 1/4". May have been the fish oil or my body is used to the herbs?).

We've been at this since early winter last year, and both of us are still struggling to get a full cup size! Lol well I really hope the SP comes through again for you, but if not think about my suggestion. Good luck!
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Unread postOct 10, 2009#43

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Good to hear from you shyboobs! I have read about you taking the GR and was just considering it when i saw your message. Maybe it's something to try. Did you take SP with it, any other herbs or just the PM? i know you said in abother thread that you have only been back on the GR for a couple weeks, whay else are you currently taking with it? Let me know how things are comin along!

yea 'struggling" to gain a cup is not even close to how i feel about this past yr(well almost a yr). And i have had periods of feeling defeated but bounced back quickly by getting on here and getting encouragement from many. So i WILL con't on!!!!

Happy growing!
Laisegirl
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Unread postOct 10, 2009#44

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Quick reply! I did try the SP extract...and I think I only took it for a few days before I felt a lil liver irritation so I quit. Other than that, used PC when taking the GR & PM. Currently on SP (berries), FG, Flaxseed Oil, EPO and GR. I'm thinkin' of getting rid of the SP and FG and just add in PC again. I'm trying to save money and since there were people on the breast feeding boards (and 1 non-lactating girl on the Breast Talk UK board, or something of that nature) that increased in size only taking GR, I surmised that would be all I need in terms of herbs. I will still use fennel in my massages, along with EPO and EVOO. I'll make sure to keep you posted with any increases.

Well, glad you still have that fighting spirit! I'm not settling for these anthills I got myself lol.
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Unread postOct 10, 2009#45

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

ok girl i am having a brain fart...what is PC? yea we are both quick on the responses tonight!
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Unread postOct 10, 2009#46

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

shyboobs.....I posted on the main thread under a differant topic that my brain fart was over and i remembered what PC is...however it must NOT have been over since i posted it on a totally unrelated thread!!! DUH! Maybe it's time for bed????!!!!!
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Unread postOct 14, 2009#47

after reading the mountains of information and thoughts from waxingmoon, here is my starting routine:

Age: 43
children: 2 (21 &18) did not breast feed either
at nipples: 32.5
waist: 27.5
hips:33.5
weight 127 pds
height: 5'8"
bra:32aa

11/18/08

Started massaging 2x daily with EPO and regular lotion until my herbs came in

11/26/08
the following herbs taken 1 - 3x daily

RC - 500 mg
EPO - 500 mg
FG - 610 mg
MT - 250 mg
SP - 540mg - this is only taken 1 at bedtime - trying to ward off weight gain
multivit - with guarana blend for metablism and energy support - 1x daily in morning

massage 2x daily with Palmers cocoa butter and 2 EPO -

11/28/08

Dropped the RC down to 1 in the morning - waxingmoon suggested that i don't need RC but opted to continue just 1 due to reading that it can help to keep weight gain down.

Also added GNC Nourishing Hair Vit 1 cap 2x daily to try to get hair healthy. figure the added vits can't hurt.

i started to do Pansyclubs massaging routine, doing more on the right due to that breat being slightly smaller. I also do extra circulations on the top protion of my breast. i do wall push ups and the breast pushes (the ones where you put your palms together in front of you and push them together...rememeber the "we must, we must, we must increase our bust"? boy maybe i should have beleived in that all those years ago huh?

12/3/08

added massagin in vit E after massages. felt some "warming" afterwards...good news????

cutting down on diet coke is more difficult some days that others. drink some diet coke in morning to wake up(tried not one day and got a killer headache and felt sick, got the shakes), at 7;30 when i get to wokr i drink decaff tea throughout the day. after work i get another det coke.

feeling VERY tired and zapped of energy...could it be the herbs of the cut down of caffiene???

12/10/08

dropped the milk thistle...was to it for 2 weeks to try to clean system....read in F2F that it could be taken with herbs and still help clean system.

everything else remains the same.

12/13/08

feeling some fullness...this shouldn't be due to my period cuz' i am a couple weeks away from it. i read that starting NBE herbs can change your cycle so maybe this is waht is happening and that is the cause of the fullness....will keep a watch on this......plus normally about 4 dyas before i start, my rings(which are gold, not cheap stuff) will leave black marks on my fingers...i know this is due to lack of iron...it only happens right before i start...well, that is also happening right now so that is leaing me to believe that my period about to start....we'll see......

12/15/08

i am REALLY feeling full yesterday and today...no other signs that my period might be starting...

ok will leave this alone for some time...hoping the next time i write will have news of growth...even a slight bit will make me happy. not looking for instant size B, i have patience...i have been flat all my life...except during pregnancy and then lost some afterwards...then lost more about 10 yrs ago when i went through a very stressful 10 months and lost about 12 pds....the boobs i lost then never returned when the weight did. OH WELL!!!!!

hope all are doing well and are healthy!!!!

Haven't taken the NR and PSO in about 10 days now, and haven't had a episode of UTI symptoms in 5 days...a connection????? i just stopped my period today and i still feel like a bloated cow!!!! What the hell is going on? I have tired to decrease my carbs and fat...decrease my food intake and have started back on a exercise routine, however a light since i haven't worked out in 4 months. I have cut down my diet coke intake,now drinking tea with sweet-n-low instead, hoping the less carbination will help with the bloating. However, it hasn't! I am so freakin frustrated withthis extra 5 pds. I am so uncomfortable!!!! I kmow it's only 5 pds but i am thin so 5 pds does make a differance. Do i have to starve myself? Splurge and purge?(no i won't do that!). but something has to give........