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Not sure who it was that said she asked a doc about collagen doses and the doc said you need at least 3-6 g to achieve any effect. I also figure supplements often contain and tell you to use the absolute minimum of what's necessary and often not even that. Double Ace also said not to be sparing and I figure a chicken feet soup meal contains at least 10 g. Althoguh I'm actually not taking 10 g anymore now but 6,7 g cause even the gelatin powder for bakery it's so cheap.
Program update - Got my period on time this round as well, but I had some spotting several days before. Inspired by Double Ace I also started doing positive affirmations and visualization technique. Before I sorotf just poped down the pills and then thoguht NBE and anything boob related away. Not the way to grow lol. I need to concentrate my mind on NBE more if I want to grow, note the growing signs and be more disciplined.
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How's your program going?
I am not new to visualization or positive affirmations as I've been through so much in my life (not necessarily bad), and the doctor's weren't helping so I decided to take it upon myself to research other solutions. I've received personal testimonials from people saying how meditation/hypnosis/affirmations/positivity helped them achieve something. Whether it's healing a wound, removing a scar, pushing a tumor up to the surface of the skin to avoid a complicated surgery, etc, it all happened.
It all actually started when i was younger and wanted to grow taller. I came across hypnosis, and unaware of the power of the mind I ignored it for the longest. I just started picking up on hypnosis/meditation again to give it a try. It is certainly easier when you're older since you're much more focused and disciplined. I'm turning 22 this year and I started meditating for a little more heights since I'm interested in the entertainment business and figure it would be great to be a little taller.
I started around February and it took a good week to get used to the image of being taller in my head as I was visualizing my ideal height. The following 2-3 weeks I grew 1/5'' and had extreme pains in knees, ankles, wrists, hips, and occasionally shoulders and lower back. The sensations would come approx. 10 minutes into the session and last periodically throughout the next day. I've maintained my height so far and stopped meditating right after I grew since I started NBE and just couldn't find time for both.
I have a story for you. When I was younger I went to a museum of technology and there was this ping pong looking table in the basement of the museum. It was actually a mind game with an energized magnetic item that responds to brain signals. You had to wear these head thingies and concentrate on moving the little hockey puck looking thing. I won all the times I played against my sister, then when intrigued watchers caught interest they challenged me too, I beat them all. I was only 15 at the time, so from that day on I was a believer of strong energy fields and was interested in the mind works and the energy the mind projects. That's where I basically got my confidence from when doing all of this.
So when I started NBE I just had an idea that same week to apply hypnosis to NBE too since it had worked to make me grow a little taller. I had growth within that same week and mind you, I had tried herbs for 2 weeks in the past when I was 15 and never had any growth. It wasn't a real attempt at NBE and my dedication, desire, and will wasn't as strong as it is now.
Now a days I just 'do' it. I don't even give it a thought long enough to become lazy. I wrote down a routine of daily things to do and incorporated NBE. So now without question, I do the massages, and eat the food daily. I don't even think about it, it's just become a habit. The thing I forget to do sometimes is to visualize.
One tip about visualization. You can do as much visualization and positive thinking as you want, but you won't get anywhere if you don't actually 'feel it'. Thinking positive and saying positive things is not the same as being positive if that makes sense? Since your attempt to think positive could actually just be covering a big negative root somewhere in your mind that you first have to deal with before you do anything.
So when you visualize, you actually have to feel joy and happiness and the certainty that you will grow with LOTS of positive affirmations and that image of the ideal shape in your breasts
I read in another forum that a lady grew after trying several phrases. The first attempt she just imagined her breasts growing bigger, which didn't do much for her. Then the second time she said "My breasts are growing bigger" and imagined her size. Her growing symptoms were a warm feeling on both of the breasts, increased blood circulation etc. BTW, I don't feel any of this. This lady did not do anything else but do Hypnosis by the way. She grew about 1-2 cups in a few months and has kept the size. Others have achieved the same thing but many shrunk, and the belief behind that is this which I have researched. Several people I have read about grew breasts and height using just their mind. Some people had wonderful results within a year but some lost their results after stopping their sessions. What they did wrong was no longer hold the idea and belief in their mind that this was now their new and permanent body. Some admitted to have still been in denial, like they couldn't believe that they had grown that much and perhaps it was just luck. The ones that kept their size were the ones who still believed in it and didn't question the mind powers or the power of energy and positivity in any way.
So you kind of have to know without question that this is working. You can't just "try" (if you're in this mindset, you need to start over). You have to just do it.
Best,
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As simple as this may sound, lacking water can actually be detrimental to NBE too so make sure you drink plenty of it! I drink at least 16 glasses of water daily. Also, my growth slowed down when I forgot taking my MSM for days, so I'm back on that. If you can afford it, definitely take MSM, if not for NBE, then for health benefits as it renews your skin, makes your hair and lashes grow long and healthy and stimulates collagen. I take 8000 mg daily which is considered a pretty good maintenance dose (some think it's too high but adjust accordingly to your body weight, 1000-3000mg is def not enough so aim higher). For 8000 mg a month I pay about $6, which is almost nothing and the health benefits are so great it's worth it. BTW, I didnt' take msm for NBE, but seeing how my breasts stopped growing fast when I stopped taking MSM and going to bed late I think it's related.
Also,
Here are two clips you should check out that might interest and motivate you:
You can watch the entire movie online on youtube but here are two important clips:
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You know I once read an article about a guy who had an extraordinary power of the mind. He was a really unusual person too, extreemly intelligent, had a photographic memory. For example he was able to increase his heartbeat by imagining runing after a train, alter his body temperature, and other pretty amazing stuff which I don't remember anymore (damnit why I didn't keep the article?!). Anyway I think some people have a stronger ability to manipulate vegetative body function with their mind as others, but everyone has some of it. You seem to be lucky to have a strong ability, I'm impressed with your achievement of growing taller. Btw if you want to grow taller still I recomed you that you don't put it off to long cause somewhere between ages 22-26 the growth plates in the bones close. Lol I wouldn't mind being a little shorter, I'm 178 cm tall, do you think it can work this way too?
I can relate to the initial difficulty of imagining and really seeing your ideal self in your mind and see it as realistical. The first time I tried visualisations I sorta didn't manage that so I gave up, didn't try very hard either. But now I forced myself and really tried untill I ''found'' that image and I feel I can do it better now, but still have to try harder. I think I have a useful ammount of that mind ability but I've always been pretty sceptic so I never seriously considered and tried it. But now I see it makes a lot of sense and I do believe in it. So I think I can train and improve my mind ability even more.
I'm impressed at how disciplined you are, I usually have problems with discipline lol. I get what you say about really having to feel it and I think I have experienced the difference between really feeling it and just saying it. I do sometimes have a hard time being postive, plus a mild/occasional case of depression and social anxiety. So do I have some **** that may interfere with my mind power, but it's good days and bad days you know and I def feel I can deal with it and pull it together enoguh to make some good uses of my head.
I drink quite a alot of liqid already too (3-4 liters a day without counting the water in food), but will look into MSM. Thanks for the clips, your advice and imput, again you're a great inspiration.
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Quick summary - Magnets worked for me last summer for only like 3 weeks before I developed a nickel allergy. Tried vitex while dealing with allergy and finding nickel free magnets, sorta regreted it cause I lost 2 cm. Tried new magnets again about 1,5 months ago and didn't have any signs at all, now I think for two possible reasons: 1 - vitex was still in my body, 2 - didn't do my agressive deep pressure massages. Possibly both, but I think those particular massages are cruicial.
Knowing that pressure massage stimulates collagen production and taking gelatin, plus taking PM as well and doing magnets, I think I now have a really good program for my particular stubborn NBE-wise boobs so I'm really optimistic and motivated. Especially cause I know magnets worked for me before, but that chance was ruined by the stupid allergy, which I now managed to overcome and find a way to do mangets again. So I'm feeling quite yay now! :]
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I started taking 425 mg of St John's Wort today. Not for NBE but depression obviously. But who knows, maybe NBE will work better when I'm less depressed.
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Unread postMay 05, 2009#87
I kinda know how you feel. Now that I've been seeing so many people growing so fast in such a short time frame, I've felt a lil down myself since I wasn't doing nowhere near as well as them. Very frustrating! But ever since I started taking the Omega 3-6-9 caps (with Borage Oil in it) I've been feeling pains/aches nearly everyday. This is surely a good sign. Not only that, but they're def getting fuller too so I'm sure I'm back on the right track now. I try not to keep measuring, but it's hard not to lol. There's been a small increase, if I'm not mistaken, which is great. But would be even better if I can get 1" every 2 weeks like emz did. We'll see...but I'm not feeling so down anymore.
So I would recommend getting that Borage Oil if you're not using it anymore, for the GLA. Also it would be good to have a pic of someone who has your exact goal size. I even put a couple links in my program page. XD NBE is a tough, long journey for most of us so at least know that you're not alone. Keep on truckin'!
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Unread postMay 05, 2009#88
Have you tried 5 HTP or L-Tyrosine for your depression? I was feeling really down about the size of my breast and decided to try these for my mood. Together they are a great combo and I am feeling much better now. Also, both are amino acids so they are good for breast growth. Hope you feel better soon, and like shyboobs said, you are not alone!
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Program update - Got my period on time this round as well, but I had some spotting several days before. Inspired by Double Ace I also started doing positive affirmations and visualization technique. Before I sorotf just poped down the pills and then thoguht NBE and anything boob related away. Not the way to grow lol. I need to concentrate my mind on NBE more if I want to grow, note the growing signs and be more disciplined.
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Quote:Okay, so here goes my current program and my previous trial:Hey moon,
Starter size: AA
FROM MID SEP 2005 TO MID FEB 2006: I took a product called Bust Plus
Ingredients: equal doses of fenugreek, fennel, hops and chinese yam, did not state how much exactly.
I took the whole dose (3 pills) once a day, in the morning, didn't drink coffee and didn't massage. I only noticed tingling right after I started taking it, but it stoped after about two weeks. I noticed fullness, hadn't had much pains, and NO real growth.
FROM MID MARCH: separate herbs SP and FG:
First month: smaller doses - 1080 mg of SP whole berry and 1830 mg of FG a day (in two doses - morning and evening), didn't massage,didn't notice much happening.
Second month: raised the doses - sth like 1620 mg of SP whole berry and ~2440 - 3660 mg a day, experimented with changing doses, divided the daily dose on three times per day.
I usually drank a cup of coffe a day. I got most pains when I suddenly changed the daily dose - like the day I took the lowest dose after I took the highest the previous day, but overall still very few pains and no growth.
NOW: starting third month on separate herbs: size still AA
Routine:
Morning: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
Afternoon: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG (+ 1 cup of coffee)
Evening: 540 mg SP, 610 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
I have a losion of which cocoa butter is the main ingredient and it also contains aloe vera and vitamin E. I am not yet sure how milk thistle is supposed to be taken and what I'll decide in regards to brakes. I hope this works for me.
How's your program going?
I am not new to visualization or positive affirmations as I've been through so much in my life (not necessarily bad), and the doctor's weren't helping so I decided to take it upon myself to research other solutions. I've received personal testimonials from people saying how meditation/hypnosis/affirmations/positivity helped them achieve something. Whether it's healing a wound, removing a scar, pushing a tumor up to the surface of the skin to avoid a complicated surgery, etc, it all happened.
It all actually started when i was younger and wanted to grow taller. I came across hypnosis, and unaware of the power of the mind I ignored it for the longest. I just started picking up on hypnosis/meditation again to give it a try. It is certainly easier when you're older since you're much more focused and disciplined. I'm turning 22 this year and I started meditating for a little more heights since I'm interested in the entertainment business and figure it would be great to be a little taller.
I started around February and it took a good week to get used to the image of being taller in my head as I was visualizing my ideal height. The following 2-3 weeks I grew 1/5'' and had extreme pains in knees, ankles, wrists, hips, and occasionally shoulders and lower back. The sensations would come approx. 10 minutes into the session and last periodically throughout the next day. I've maintained my height so far and stopped meditating right after I grew since I started NBE and just couldn't find time for both.
I have a story for you. When I was younger I went to a museum of technology and there was this ping pong looking table in the basement of the museum. It was actually a mind game with an energized magnetic item that responds to brain signals. You had to wear these head thingies and concentrate on moving the little hockey puck looking thing. I won all the times I played against my sister, then when intrigued watchers caught interest they challenged me too, I beat them all. I was only 15 at the time, so from that day on I was a believer of strong energy fields and was interested in the mind works and the energy the mind projects. That's where I basically got my confidence from when doing all of this.
So when I started NBE I just had an idea that same week to apply hypnosis to NBE too since it had worked to make me grow a little taller. I had growth within that same week and mind you, I had tried herbs for 2 weeks in the past when I was 15 and never had any growth. It wasn't a real attempt at NBE and my dedication, desire, and will wasn't as strong as it is now.
Now a days I just 'do' it. I don't even give it a thought long enough to become lazy. I wrote down a routine of daily things to do and incorporated NBE. So now without question, I do the massages, and eat the food daily. I don't even think about it, it's just become a habit. The thing I forget to do sometimes is to visualize.
One tip about visualization. You can do as much visualization and positive thinking as you want, but you won't get anywhere if you don't actually 'feel it'. Thinking positive and saying positive things is not the same as being positive if that makes sense? Since your attempt to think positive could actually just be covering a big negative root somewhere in your mind that you first have to deal with before you do anything.
So when you visualize, you actually have to feel joy and happiness and the certainty that you will grow with LOTS of positive affirmations and that image of the ideal shape in your breasts
I read in another forum that a lady grew after trying several phrases. The first attempt she just imagined her breasts growing bigger, which didn't do much for her. Then the second time she said "My breasts are growing bigger" and imagined her size. Her growing symptoms were a warm feeling on both of the breasts, increased blood circulation etc. BTW, I don't feel any of this. This lady did not do anything else but do Hypnosis by the way. She grew about 1-2 cups in a few months and has kept the size. Others have achieved the same thing but many shrunk, and the belief behind that is this which I have researched. Several people I have read about grew breasts and height using just their mind. Some people had wonderful results within a year but some lost their results after stopping their sessions. What they did wrong was no longer hold the idea and belief in their mind that this was now their new and permanent body. Some admitted to have still been in denial, like they couldn't believe that they had grown that much and perhaps it was just luck. The ones that kept their size were the ones who still believed in it and didn't question the mind powers or the power of energy and positivity in any way.
So you kind of have to know without question that this is working. You can't just "try" (if you're in this mindset, you need to start over). You have to just do it.
Best,
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Quote:Okay, so here goes my current program and my previous trial:I forgot to add,
Starter size: AA
FROM MID SEP 2005 TO MID FEB 2006: I took a product called Bust Plus
Ingredients: equal doses of fenugreek, fennel, hops and chinese yam, did not state how much exactly.
I took the whole dose (3 pills) once a day, in the morning, didn't drink coffee and didn't massage. I only noticed tingling right after I started taking it, but it stoped after about two weeks. I noticed fullness, hadn't had much pains, and NO real growth.
FROM MID MARCH: separate herbs SP and FG:
First month: smaller doses - 1080 mg of SP whole berry and 1830 mg of FG a day (in two doses - morning and evening), didn't massage,didn't notice much happening.
Second month: raised the doses - sth like 1620 mg of SP whole berry and ~2440 - 3660 mg a day, experimented with changing doses, divided the daily dose on three times per day.
I usually drank a cup of coffe a day. I got most pains when I suddenly changed the daily dose - like the day I took the lowest dose after I took the highest the previous day, but overall still very few pains and no growth.
NOW: starting third month on separate herbs: size still AA
Routine:
Morning: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
Afternoon: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG (+ 1 cup of coffee)
Evening: 540 mg SP, 610 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
I have a losion of which cocoa butter is the main ingredient and it also contains aloe vera and vitamin E. I am not yet sure how milk thistle is supposed to be taken and what I'll decide in regards to brakes. I hope this works for me.
As simple as this may sound, lacking water can actually be detrimental to NBE too so make sure you drink plenty of it! I drink at least 16 glasses of water daily. Also, my growth slowed down when I forgot taking my MSM for days, so I'm back on that. If you can afford it, definitely take MSM, if not for NBE, then for health benefits as it renews your skin, makes your hair and lashes grow long and healthy and stimulates collagen. I take 8000 mg daily which is considered a pretty good maintenance dose (some think it's too high but adjust accordingly to your body weight, 1000-3000mg is def not enough so aim higher). For 8000 mg a month I pay about $6, which is almost nothing and the health benefits are so great it's worth it. BTW, I didnt' take msm for NBE, but seeing how my breasts stopped growing fast when I stopped taking MSM and going to bed late I think it's related.
Also,
Here are two clips you should check out that might interest and motivate you:
You can watch the entire movie online on youtube but here are two important clips:
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Quote:Okay, so here goes my current program and my previous trial:Hey Double Ace, thanks so much for taking the time to write all that! You have fascinating stories and great advice.
Starter size: AA
FROM MID SEP 2005 TO MID FEB 2006: I took a product called Bust Plus
Ingredients: equal doses of fenugreek, fennel, hops and chinese yam, did not state how much exactly.
I took the whole dose (3 pills) once a day, in the morning, didn't drink coffee and didn't massage. I only noticed tingling right after I started taking it, but it stoped after about two weeks. I noticed fullness, hadn't had much pains, and NO real growth.
FROM MID MARCH: separate herbs SP and FG:
First month: smaller doses - 1080 mg of SP whole berry and 1830 mg of FG a day (in two doses - morning and evening), didn't massage,didn't notice much happening.
Second month: raised the doses - sth like 1620 mg of SP whole berry and ~2440 - 3660 mg a day, experimented with changing doses, divided the daily dose on three times per day.
I usually drank a cup of coffe a day. I got most pains when I suddenly changed the daily dose - like the day I took the lowest dose after I took the highest the previous day, but overall still very few pains and no growth.
NOW: starting third month on separate herbs: size still AA
Routine:
Morning: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
Afternoon: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG (+ 1 cup of coffee)
Evening: 540 mg SP, 610 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
I have a losion of which cocoa butter is the main ingredient and it also contains aloe vera and vitamin E. I am not yet sure how milk thistle is supposed to be taken and what I'll decide in regards to brakes. I hope this works for me.
You know I once read an article about a guy who had an extraordinary power of the mind. He was a really unusual person too, extreemly intelligent, had a photographic memory. For example he was able to increase his heartbeat by imagining runing after a train, alter his body temperature, and other pretty amazing stuff which I don't remember anymore (damnit why I didn't keep the article?!). Anyway I think some people have a stronger ability to manipulate vegetative body function with their mind as others, but everyone has some of it. You seem to be lucky to have a strong ability, I'm impressed with your achievement of growing taller. Btw if you want to grow taller still I recomed you that you don't put it off to long cause somewhere between ages 22-26 the growth plates in the bones close. Lol I wouldn't mind being a little shorter, I'm 178 cm tall, do you think it can work this way too?
I can relate to the initial difficulty of imagining and really seeing your ideal self in your mind and see it as realistical. The first time I tried visualisations I sorta didn't manage that so I gave up, didn't try very hard either. But now I forced myself and really tried untill I ''found'' that image and I feel I can do it better now, but still have to try harder. I think I have a useful ammount of that mind ability but I've always been pretty sceptic so I never seriously considered and tried it. But now I see it makes a lot of sense and I do believe in it. So I think I can train and improve my mind ability even more.
I'm impressed at how disciplined you are, I usually have problems with discipline lol. I get what you say about really having to feel it and I think I have experienced the difference between really feeling it and just saying it. I do sometimes have a hard time being postive, plus a mild/occasional case of depression and social anxiety. So do I have some **** that may interfere with my mind power, but it's good days and bad days you know and I def feel I can deal with it and pull it together enoguh to make some good uses of my head.
I drink quite a alot of liqid already too (3-4 liters a day without counting the water in food), but will look into MSM. Thanks for the clips, your advice and imput, again you're a great inspiration.
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Quote:Okay, so here goes my current program and my previous trial:I started magnets again and hallelujah, I'm having the soreness again!
Starter size: AA
FROM MID SEP 2005 TO MID FEB 2006: I took a product called Bust Plus
Ingredients: equal doses of fenugreek, fennel, hops and chinese yam, did not state how much exactly.
I took the whole dose (3 pills) once a day, in the morning, didn't drink coffee and didn't massage. I only noticed tingling right after I started taking it, but it stoped after about two weeks. I noticed fullness, hadn't had much pains, and NO real growth.
FROM MID MARCH: separate herbs SP and FG:
First month: smaller doses - 1080 mg of SP whole berry and 1830 mg of FG a day (in two doses - morning and evening), didn't massage,didn't notice much happening.
Second month: raised the doses - sth like 1620 mg of SP whole berry and ~2440 - 3660 mg a day, experimented with changing doses, divided the daily dose on three times per day.
I usually drank a cup of coffe a day. I got most pains when I suddenly changed the daily dose - like the day I took the lowest dose after I took the highest the previous day, but overall still very few pains and no growth.
NOW: starting third month on separate herbs: size still AA
Routine:
Morning: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
Afternoon: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG (+ 1 cup of coffee)
Evening: 540 mg SP, 610 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
I have a losion of which cocoa butter is the main ingredient and it also contains aloe vera and vitamin E. I am not yet sure how milk thistle is supposed to be taken and what I'll decide in regards to brakes. I hope this works for me.
Quick summary - Magnets worked for me last summer for only like 3 weeks before I developed a nickel allergy. Tried vitex while dealing with allergy and finding nickel free magnets, sorta regreted it cause I lost 2 cm. Tried new magnets again about 1,5 months ago and didn't have any signs at all, now I think for two possible reasons: 1 - vitex was still in my body, 2 - didn't do my agressive deep pressure massages. Possibly both, but I think those particular massages are cruicial.
Knowing that pressure massage stimulates collagen production and taking gelatin, plus taking PM as well and doing magnets, I think I now have a really good program for my particular stubborn NBE-wise boobs so I'm really optimistic and motivated. Especially cause I know magnets worked for me before, but that chance was ruined by the stupid allergy, which I now managed to overcome and find a way to do mangets again. So I'm feeling quite yay now! :]
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Quote:Okay, so here goes my current program and my previous trial:And my sorness is out the window again. :[ Ok seriously wtf?! I don't get why I seem to respond to magnets occasionally now, and the rest of the time not. Grrr!
Starter size: AA
FROM MID SEP 2005 TO MID FEB 2006: I took a product called Bust Plus
Ingredients: equal doses of fenugreek, fennel, hops and chinese yam, did not state how much exactly.
I took the whole dose (3 pills) once a day, in the morning, didn't drink coffee and didn't massage. I only noticed tingling right after I started taking it, but it stoped after about two weeks. I noticed fullness, hadn't had much pains, and NO real growth.
FROM MID MARCH: separate herbs SP and FG:
First month: smaller doses - 1080 mg of SP whole berry and 1830 mg of FG a day (in two doses - morning and evening), didn't massage,didn't notice much happening.
Second month: raised the doses - sth like 1620 mg of SP whole berry and ~2440 - 3660 mg a day, experimented with changing doses, divided the daily dose on three times per day.
I usually drank a cup of coffe a day. I got most pains when I suddenly changed the daily dose - like the day I took the lowest dose after I took the highest the previous day, but overall still very few pains and no growth.
NOW: starting third month on separate herbs: size still AA
Routine:
Morning: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
Afternoon: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG (+ 1 cup of coffee)
Evening: 540 mg SP, 610 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
I have a losion of which cocoa butter is the main ingredient and it also contains aloe vera and vitamin E. I am not yet sure how milk thistle is supposed to be taken and what I'll decide in regards to brakes. I hope this works for me.
I started taking 425 mg of St John's Wort today. Not for NBE but depression obviously. But who knows, maybe NBE will work better when I'm less depressed.
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Unread postMay 05, 2009#87
Quote:Okay, so here goes my current program and my previous trial:Hey Moon,
Starter size: AA
FROM MID SEP 2005 TO MID FEB 2006: I took a product called Bust Plus
Ingredients: equal doses of fenugreek, fennel, hops and chinese yam, did not state how much exactly.
I took the whole dose (3 pills) once a day, in the morning, didn't drink coffee and didn't massage. I only noticed tingling right after I started taking it, but it stoped after about two weeks. I noticed fullness, hadn't had much pains, and NO real growth.
FROM MID MARCH: separate herbs SP and FG:
First month: smaller doses - 1080 mg of SP whole berry and 1830 mg of FG a day (in two doses - morning and evening), didn't massage,didn't notice much happening.
Second month: raised the doses - sth like 1620 mg of SP whole berry and ~2440 - 3660 mg a day, experimented with changing doses, divided the daily dose on three times per day.
I usually drank a cup of coffe a day. I got most pains when I suddenly changed the daily dose - like the day I took the lowest dose after I took the highest the previous day, but overall still very few pains and no growth.
NOW: starting third month on separate herbs: size still AA
Routine:
Morning: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
Afternoon: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG (+ 1 cup of coffee)
Evening: 540 mg SP, 610 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
I have a losion of which cocoa butter is the main ingredient and it also contains aloe vera and vitamin E. I am not yet sure how milk thistle is supposed to be taken and what I'll decide in regards to brakes. I hope this works for me.
I kinda know how you feel. Now that I've been seeing so many people growing so fast in such a short time frame, I've felt a lil down myself since I wasn't doing nowhere near as well as them. Very frustrating! But ever since I started taking the Omega 3-6-9 caps (with Borage Oil in it) I've been feeling pains/aches nearly everyday. This is surely a good sign. Not only that, but they're def getting fuller too so I'm sure I'm back on the right track now. I try not to keep measuring, but it's hard not to lol. There's been a small increase, if I'm not mistaken, which is great. But would be even better if I can get 1" every 2 weeks like emz did. We'll see...but I'm not feeling so down anymore.
So I would recommend getting that Borage Oil if you're not using it anymore, for the GLA. Also it would be good to have a pic of someone who has your exact goal size. I even put a couple links in my program page. XD NBE is a tough, long journey for most of us so at least know that you're not alone. Keep on truckin'!
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Unread postMay 05, 2009#88
Quote:Okay, so here goes my current program and my previous trial:Moon,
Starter size: AA
FROM MID SEP 2005 TO MID FEB 2006: I took a product called Bust Plus
Ingredients: equal doses of fenugreek, fennel, hops and chinese yam, did not state how much exactly.
I took the whole dose (3 pills) once a day, in the morning, didn't drink coffee and didn't massage. I only noticed tingling right after I started taking it, but it stoped after about two weeks. I noticed fullness, hadn't had much pains, and NO real growth.
FROM MID MARCH: separate herbs SP and FG:
First month: smaller doses - 1080 mg of SP whole berry and 1830 mg of FG a day (in two doses - morning and evening), didn't massage,didn't notice much happening.
Second month: raised the doses - sth like 1620 mg of SP whole berry and ~2440 - 3660 mg a day, experimented with changing doses, divided the daily dose on three times per day.
I usually drank a cup of coffe a day. I got most pains when I suddenly changed the daily dose - like the day I took the lowest dose after I took the highest the previous day, but overall still very few pains and no growth.
NOW: starting third month on separate herbs: size still AA
Routine:
Morning: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
Afternoon: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG (+ 1 cup of coffee)
Evening: 540 mg SP, 610 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
I have a losion of which cocoa butter is the main ingredient and it also contains aloe vera and vitamin E. I am not yet sure how milk thistle is supposed to be taken and what I'll decide in regards to brakes. I hope this works for me.
Have you tried 5 HTP or L-Tyrosine for your depression? I was feeling really down about the size of my breast and decided to try these for my mood. Together they are a great combo and I am feeling much better now. Also, both are amino acids so they are good for breast growth. Hope you feel better soon, and like shyboobs said, you are not alone!
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Unread postMay 05, 2009#89
Quote:Okay, so here goes my current program and my previous trial:ooh, 5htp would probably help! it raises your brains serotonin levels (the happy juice). maybe trying it wouldnt be so bad? ive done if a few times and i think it works very nicely
Starter size: AA
FROM MID SEP 2005 TO MID FEB 2006: I took a product called Bust Plus
Ingredients: equal doses of fenugreek, fennel, hops and chinese yam, did not state how much exactly.
I took the whole dose (3 pills) once a day, in the morning, didn't drink coffee and didn't massage. I only noticed tingling right after I started taking it, but it stoped after about two weeks. I noticed fullness, hadn't had much pains, and NO real growth.
FROM MID MARCH: separate herbs SP and FG:
First month: smaller doses - 1080 mg of SP whole berry and 1830 mg of FG a day (in two doses - morning and evening), didn't massage,didn't notice much happening.
Second month: raised the doses - sth like 1620 mg of SP whole berry and ~2440 - 3660 mg a day, experimented with changing doses, divided the daily dose on three times per day.
I usually drank a cup of coffe a day. I got most pains when I suddenly changed the daily dose - like the day I took the lowest dose after I took the highest the previous day, but overall still very few pains and no growth.
NOW: starting third month on separate herbs: size still AA
Routine:
Morning: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
Afternoon: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG (+ 1 cup of coffee)
Evening: 540 mg SP, 610 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
I have a losion of which cocoa butter is the main ingredient and it also contains aloe vera and vitamin E. I am not yet sure how milk thistle is supposed to be taken and what I'll decide in regards to brakes. I hope this works for me.
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Unread postMay 08, 2009#90
Quote:Okay, so here goes my current program and my previous trial:Thanks for your support girls! I see I made it sound like I'm depressed because of my boobs but I'm actually not, it's more like the usual depression with no reason, to an extent seasonal. It was never really bad but it got somewhat worse recently. I'll deffinitely look into more supplements, thanks again for your tips!
Starter size: AA
FROM MID SEP 2005 TO MID FEB 2006: I took a product called Bust Plus
Ingredients: equal doses of fenugreek, fennel, hops and chinese yam, did not state how much exactly.
I took the whole dose (3 pills) once a day, in the morning, didn't drink coffee and didn't massage. I only noticed tingling right after I started taking it, but it stoped after about two weeks. I noticed fullness, hadn't had much pains, and NO real growth.
FROM MID MARCH: separate herbs SP and FG:
First month: smaller doses - 1080 mg of SP whole berry and 1830 mg of FG a day (in two doses - morning and evening), didn't massage,didn't notice much happening.
Second month: raised the doses - sth like 1620 mg of SP whole berry and ~2440 - 3660 mg a day, experimented with changing doses, divided the daily dose on three times per day.
I usually drank a cup of coffe a day. I got most pains when I suddenly changed the daily dose - like the day I took the lowest dose after I took the highest the previous day, but overall still very few pains and no growth.
NOW: starting third month on separate herbs: size still AA
Routine:
Morning: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
Afternoon: 540 mg SP, 1020 mg FG (+ 1 cup of coffee)
Evening: 540 mg SP, 610 mg FG, 1000 mg borage oil, massage with cocoa butter
I have a losion of which cocoa butter is the main ingredient and it also contains aloe vera and vitamin E. I am not yet sure how milk thistle is supposed to be taken and what I'll decide in regards to brakes. I hope this works for me.