[Eve M]

Stopped using the Maca. There seemed to be no breast results with it at the amount I was taking. I decided to stop because SOMETHING is making my butt grow...:o

If maca had done to my boobs what I think it has done to my butt, I would be mighty pleased. Just tried on some cold weather clothes from last year and my how they have shrunk in the seat area. My body weight is about the same, so it isn't body fat all over that has changed. I am trying to grow boobie, not bootie...

Also, my breath stinks. My husband mentioned it to me the other day that my morning breath really stinks up a room now, when before he had never noticed my breath.

So, bad breath and bigger butt - not exactly the attractive qualities I am going for. Maybe it is not the maca, but that is the only thing I take that I think is unessential. If things improve then I will know it was the culprit.

With luck, my breath will sweeten and those fat cells will take a trip north to boobieville...lol
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Unread postDec 30, 2006#12

How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day

My current program:

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day

Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week

I decided to take borage oil capsule with my evening vitamins, which makes my total 2 capsules of 240 GLA per day.
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Unread postJan 01, 2007#13

How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day

My current program:

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day

Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week

Just did my new years day measurements.

Weight: 135 lbs
Bust: 34 1/4
Waist: 27 1/2 (aaaahhhhh!)
Hips: 37 1/2 (aaaahhhh!}

I am up from last year by an inch and a half in waist and hips. Most of that increase has been since November. Damn you Maca!!!!!! (see me shaking fist)

But I am also up an inch and a quarter in my boobs since September. God bless you NBE!

My body goals are to bring the weight down to 127 (just because I like that number). Decrease waist to 26 and hips to 36. Increase bust to 36.

I have a year to complete these goals so there is no pressure.

Current program:

Natural Progesterone cream (Now brand): 30 mg per day (days 12 - 28 of cycle)-applied to thin skinned areas
Whey protein drinks: 20 grams twice a day
Borage oil: 240mg GLA twice a day
Vitex angus castus: (extract 200mg, herb 300 mg) 3 x per day
Milk Thistle: 70mg twice a day
Cod liver oil: (Twinlab Norwegian) 6 softgels per day
Vitamin C: 2000 - 6000 mg per day

Massage with Cocoa butter & vit E: 5 min twice per day
Every 3rd day: Progesterone cream applied to breast as massage (-no increase in dosage -I use my regular dosage on the breast to reduce the fibrocystic problem in my right breast)

Exercise: Push ups and Bench press as before.
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Unread postJan 18, 2007#14

How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day

My current program:

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day

Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week

Decided to use just 20mg of progesterone cream per day this cycle (the maintenance dosage). I am not experiencing as much estrogen dominance symptoms as before. I seem to have stabilized from my bodies initial reaction to the progesterone (estrogen receptors getting activated). Perhaps the vitex is beginning to kick in, but it is still early for that to be in full effect.

I am much more aware of my breast when I am sleeping now. There is this roll of 'breast' in the upper part of my chest that is noticible when I am on my side that was never there before. I am also feeling 'mushed' when I am on my side - having to rearrange my arms all the time. I can't say there is much increase as far as a tape measure can reveal. There is however constant change in the overall 'character' of my beasts. The upper part is starting to fill in more and more (someday my cleavage will come...). Don't get me wrong - I still haven't achieved aa yet and the A is still on the road ahead. Everything is proceeding nicely. I figure I have a lot to fill in since I started with little more than nipples on a chest wall. Happily, gone are the days when I could see my ribcage through the 'cleavage area'.

My 'buttage' has reduced a little since stopping Maca. I have probable lost a 'cup' size in the rear. My husband has not spoken of the dragon(breath) for a few weeks now. I am doing leg press at the gym to improve the rump and am noticing a nice uplift the the caboose. Alls well that ends well...
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Unread postJan 22, 2007#15

How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day

My current program:

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day

Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week

I hope you don't mind me posting a note here. I just wanted to tell you that I find your posts delightful. They are so hilarious everything you write just makes me laugh. I too, have some hypothyroid symptoms and have had terrible PMS in the past, also ditto on the stressful life thing. Life is good now tho'. Am feeling a little better now, on the herbs I am taking. I am really interested in your program though and anxious to see how the progesterone works for you.
Best wishes and thank you for sharing your wonderful sense of humor with all of us.
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Unread postJan 23, 2007#16

How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day

My current program:

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day

Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week

After reading some posts about Black Current Oil I noticed my store had some so I added to my 'collection'.

Currently taking:

Borage 300 GLA 1 gel in am
Cod liver oil 3 gels in am

Black Currant 500 1 gel in pm
Cod liver oil 3 gels in pm

My omega 3 fatty acid cup runneth over now. The cod liver oil also gives me Vitamin A and D.


Lassysam,
Glad you enjoy my posts. I am a big believer is stress reduction through laughter.

Hopefully my program will yeild big results, but quite honestly from where I started, just fitting into an A cup will be a BIG deal to me.

You know it really isn't fair that my rib cage is so gigantic. I read about all the smaller cages and am envious. Now if only I could find a painless and healthy way to drop a couple of ribs, I would be at my goal sooner... lol
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Unread postJan 24, 2007#17

How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day

My current program:

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day

Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week

I know, you are bothered by your rib cage, but you sound skinny to me! My ribs (33.5-34") are bigger than yours and I've got fat arms and legs to boot. I am a pear shape I guess (except add in some fat arms) I've decided that big boobs won't even look good on me unless I lose some weight. I am 5'.5" and weigh 147 lbs. I am going to keep up with the herbs, but really try to lose at least 7-8 lbs. Then if I can drop a few pounds I think I would try harder with the BE. I may also try those Goji Berries that were mentioned on the main thread. They are suppose to have anti aging effects. I am 37 yrs old, have 5 kids, 3 of which are teenagers who have given me lots of wrinkles and gray hair! I am trying to hold on to a bit of youth for a while longer. It would be nice to look decent while we go swimming this next summer. Even if you have small breasts, you look better because you are taller and more slender. I think that is something to feel good about. : )
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Unread postFeb 11, 2007#18

How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day

My current program:

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day

Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week

Well, the 20 mg per day just has not worked as well for me. I had a lot of anxiety the days before I started on the cream (one of the symptoms the progesterone reduces). It was very hard for me to wait until day 12 of my cycle to start using the cream again.

I started using 20 mg in evening and another 20 mg in am. The effect on the anxiety was immediate, thank God.

Obviously the vitex is not kicking in yet. I am taking vitex chiefly to get me through from day 1 - 12 without climbing the walls. I still hold out hope it will even things out - after all the best results usually occur after the 3 month mark, and I am not there yet.

The 'butt' is still with me (sigh). It has reduced a little, but my side profile is still startling (a straight line from above becomes a boinging out boxcar below).
If only the 'chestal area' would hurry up and match it.

No increase up top lately. Quite frankly, until this hormone fluctuation gets under control I don't expect much change. I haven't massaged as much and have noticed a decrease in the 'fluffiness' up top, so I need to rededicate myself to massage.

Good news though, the fibrocyctic area in my right breast has reduced. I think the combination of massage and progesterone cream (applied to breasts every third day I use the cream) has done the job.

Hopefully by my next update I will be all sunshine and roses in the hormone department, swelling uptop in the boob department and substantially reduced in the caboose...

waxingmoon
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Unread postFeb 14, 2007#19

How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day

My current program:

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day

Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week

wow, this certainly speaks volumes to me! my early teens were certainly quite stressful, and i was always quite a worry-wort, learning to manage anxiety very gradually only in the last 2-3 years.
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Unread postMar 02, 2007#20

How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day

My current program:

Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day

Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week

hi, i hope you don't mind me posting in your program. i'm curious to know whether using progesterone cream has reduced luteal phase swelling and tenderness for you - it seems to have that effect on me... i'm still uncertain whether that's a good thing - i am hoping that perhaps i will see less of the usual shrinkage towards the end of my period... please let me know!