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The local health food store carries what I need, but I agree that site seemed very good. I am glad to hear the shipping is reasonable.
I do massage each morning using lavender oil. I use the essential oil mixed with a little lavender hand lotion because the essential oil alone can burn. I would not say I spend much time with it -maybe 3 - 5 minutes. I started using lavender oil based on the reports breast growth in young boys who had been using lavender oil - I figured since my chest looked a lot like a young boy's, I had nothing go lose... lol. Anyway -I really, really like the scent and whether or not it is having any NBE effect I will continue with it. I believe the massage I do enhances blood flow within the breast and is good for overall breast health.
I used to spend a lot more time massaging and would have temporary increase in size as a result. Since the effect was not permanent and I began to resent the intrusion into my time I now cut the massages short.
The bench press I was talking about is a common machine in most gyms. There is also a free-weight bench press- but it is safer to have a partner work with you if you use the free-weight bench press. The basic idea is the same as a push up. The bench press when done properly can allow you to isolate the pectoral (chest) muscle more.
I have started a thread on the main page titled 'tops of breast' which outlines some good exercises to increase chest muscle size.
Your routine sounds healthy. If I were you I would switch from using the isolation of biceps and triceps and work in some push ups or bench press instead. You will still work out your biceps and triceps but you will have the added benefit of shaping your chest. I almost think your treadmill may be too much for NBE - but if you are not losing weight and have enough body fat it might be okay. Sometimes a lot of aerobic exercise can make it hard to gain body fat (a plus for health in general but a negative for NBE).
Yeah, I know what you mean about wanting to look like the 'before' pictures... lol. Seriously, I think some of us are in a completely different league when it comes to NBE. I look at some of the before pics and I think 'Don't they know they already have great boobs?' ... lol.
Glad you are getting your program in order. Keep me posted on how you are doing.
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Unread postOct 20, 2007#42
Well the low shipping charge was false. Their system cannot really calculate the international shipping charges. They will send it to you later for confirmation, and my order came to more than $30. But I found another website oncatalog.com, which has lower cost for the Now Progesterone Cream. So I didn't order any other supplements; just stick with the progesterone cream for now since that might be the key to my problem of no growth at this point. I am really disgusted with Singapore's petty way of handling things. Anything to do with hormones requires a prescription, so there is absolutely no way I could get over-the-counter progesterone cream. If I go to the doctor, I don't know what to tell her in order to get her to prescribe me progesterone cream since I am not in menopause and don't have any other menopausal related problems. All the supplements are so expensive here. I looked at the whey protein powder today. A 5-lb bottle costs over $100!
I just started my exercise routine about 2 or 3 weeks ago, with the jogging on treadmill and weights on alternate days. So I don't know if I will lose much body fat doing it. I am quite thin except for the tummy. Any weight gain will go to the tummy. That's the damage from having had three children I guess. I will start the lavender oil massage as you described. Do you massage in a certain special way or just do the rotations? Look forward to having my progesterone cream coming.
Thanks for all your help.
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I was just wondering if you are continuing with your program and if you have had more growth. I started my program about two or three weeks ago, about the time when I first posted in your program page, and haven't noticed any growth yet. I wasn't expecting things to happen so soon anyway. The progesterone cream hasn't arrived. But I would like to know when it does, how I am supposed to use it. Is there instructions with it? Do I know to massage extensively with it or just rub in? How much would you contribute your growth to the massage? So many swear by the massage, but as a working mother of three, it's really hard to get the time in. I have so little with them anyway, and feel guilty about locking myself in the bathroom and let them do things on their own. A problem you don't have to worry about.
I am still continuing with the 5-day-a-week exercise routine. Three of the days, I do treadmill running/walking for 30 minutes, and mild weight and abs for another 20 minutes. The other two days, I just job on the treadmill for 30 minutes and call it quits. I have somehow gained quite a bit of weight in the last 6 months, probably this sedatory job and my chocolate-crazy habits. I was under 110 lbs, but recently have gone up to 116-118 lbs. And the extra weight all seems to be on the tummy and butt. None where I want it unfortunately. Sigh. Do you think I should leave the weight alone and not worry about it, lest when doing cardio, I affect my NBE efforts negatively? Any other tips you could offer. Since I feel my situation most resembles yours among other NBE participants, I would like to follow what has proven to be successful for you. Thanks.
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Unread postNov 01, 2007#44
Sorry I missed your earlier post. I had not checked this page for a while.
In answer to your question about progesterone cream. Just apply it like you would lotion - that is you rub it in until it seems to disappear. You don't want a thick layer all in one place. You also want to apply it to areas that have high blood flow and thin skin. Some good areas are the front and back of the neck, the insides of the arms, the back of the knee, top of the feet and back of the hands. You want to avoid places that have a lot of body fat because you don't want to store the progesterone, you want it to go into circulation. Rotate the sites you use each day so you will not have a build up in one area. Try to use a site no more than once every 3 days.
The progesterone you get should tell you how much to use to create a 20mg dose. The brand I use has a pump that delivers the precise amount. One pump equals 20 mg.
In answer to your question about massage. I use the essential lavender oil mixed with a small amount of lavender hand lotion. I bet I spend less than five minutes during the massage. I concentrate on making circular motions around the entire breast then upward strokes with both hands from the bottom of the breast.
I also massage the area of the rib cage to the sides of the breast as well as the areas above the breast. My whole idea is to increase blood and lymph flow through the breast tissue. This is different that when I first started NBE. I got tired of massaging each breast for 5 minutes and although it gave me a slight increase it was only a temporary thing. So don't feel you need to rob those kids of your presence. You can do the massage you need in a very short period of time.
Oh yeah, another thing I do each morning is use the shower massage on the breasts. At the end of my shower I direct the water stream onto each breast using very warm/hot water. I will even lean forward and allow the spray to massage the breasts. The temperature is just at the limit of what I find pleasant and it leaves the breasts looking rosy. I believe this enhances the blood flow to the breasts and is good before my lavender massage.
About the other question. -Am I still growing? -Yes. Just his morning I was noticing how much larger my breasts were at this time of my cycle from previous months. I think I am almost up to most peoples starting pictures now ...lol (okay - not those "b/c cup what are you doing needing more breast you buxom goddesses" ones -but the A cup ones) My growth is slow and comes in fits and starts.
I am filling my 34a push ups with bulges at the top - so for me this is heaven. I would say the flat Kansas wheat fields are becoming gentle rolling hills -- Next stop the Grand Titons... lol
Take care and hugs to your kiddies,
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Unread postNov 03, 2007#45
You are so cute! I am glad to know about the rolling hills headed for grand titons. Hope you get there soon. I am just starting up. No progesterone cream yet. Still somewhere in the air between FL and here. Hope to get it soon and get things moving. Thanks for the detailed explanation of what you do about the cream and massage and everything else. Catch you later.
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Unread postNov 23, 2007#46
During morning shower -light massage to breasts with shower stream and hot water (no scalding just very, very warm).
Right after the shower -Lavender oil -about a teaspoon full with a squirt of lavender hand lotion to dilute. I massage this into breasts using circular motions and sweeping motions from sides and below. My main focus is to stimulate circulation and lymph drainage. The smell of lavender is heavenly.
Breakfast - 6oz yogurt with 2 Tbsp crushed flax seed, 2 Tbsp psyllium husks and a heaping scoop of whey protein powder. Mixed with either water or milk to make drinkable. I consume this while reading Eve's forum.
AM Vitamins
Multi - Bluebonnet (maxi two) - 1 tablet
Methyl B12 - 1000 mcg
Ubiquinol -Bluebonnet (a more active form of Co Q10) - 50 mg
Ester C - 1000 mg
Evening Primrose Oil - 1300 mg
Vitex extract - 225 mg
Calcium/magnesium/potasium - 500mg/225mg/225mg
Codliver Oil - 3 capsules
E - 200 IU
Chromium Picolinate - 200 mcg
11am -1st lunch -usually chicken or fish -3 - 4 oz, orange or apple slices, green beans or other vegetable, 1 cup green Earl grey tea.
2pm -2nd lunch -usually chicken or fish -3 - 4 oz, orange or apple slices, green beans or other vegetable, 1 cup green Earl grey tea. (yes, left overs from first lunch - I always bring my lunch to work with me.
Between 9 am and 7 pm I will have done 2 - 4 hours of exercise -most mild intensity but 3 times a week more intense muscle building exercises.
8pm dinner -usually fish - 3 - 4 oz, pasta and vegetables.
9 pm - protein drink - 16 grams whey protein powder with water.
PM Vitamins -30 minutes before bed.
Co Q10 - 30 mg
Ester C - 1000 mg
Vitex extract - 225 mg
Calcium/magnesium/potasium - 500mg/225mg/225mg
Codliver Oil - 3 capsules
E - 200 IU
Chromium Picolinate - 200 mcg
Fish oil -Spectrum brand - 500 mg
Melatonin - 3 mg
Selenium - 100 mcg
Sleep - 7 - 8 hours per night.
The biggest changes are in adding the ubiquinol (this is the active form of CoQ 10 that the body creates from ubiquinone CoQ10 along with an enzyme - I suspect I don't have enough of the enzyme to make the active form of CoQ10) - I reduced Vitex to just the extract, I increased EPO, I reduced melatonin, I am using fish oil instead of Black current oil. Also I only used Progesterone cream 2 nights this cycle.
Measurements:
Above breast under arms: 33"
Fullest part of breast: 35"
Below breasts: 30"
Waist: 27"
Hips: 37"
I haven't measured in a while - Wow! the fullest part of my breast is bigger than ever! And I am smaller around the ribcage. I think this means I am actually a true 34a!!!
Just one more thing to be thankful for...
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I think you said you buy your herbs from local stores. But could I ask what brands you buy of which herbs? Do you have an opinion which brands are better than others and what to look at when choosing. I have the only option of buying online, so my choices are rather limited, and costs are quite high. I want to makes sure I get the right things, herbs that are effective. Thanks.
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Louise,
You are too kind. It is possible I could find a bra that would fit and it might be a 34B, but there is not enough breast tissue yet for that to be a real B cup. Someday soon I hope, but not yet. As it is, the A cup is quite a change for me, so I am not disappointed in any way.
Sarah,
I think cardiovascular exercise is good for health. Your tennis involves a lot of start/stop action which can be hard on your joints and ligaments. It would be a good idea to use some strength training to protect your legs. If you have a gym available, leg extensions and leg curls are good machines to use. At home, you can place a ball behind your back (basket ball sized) and lean against a wall and do squats. (Keep your knees over your ankles and don't drop your hips below knee height)
For upper body, wall push ups or push ups on the knees can improve your chest muscles and are important to NBE. At a gym you can use the bench press or chest press machine for the same effect. You can also lie on your back with free weights and do a chest press that way.
As far as the herbs, standardized formulas are best (which means they guarantee the amount of potent herb in each capsule). I think one of my brands is Nature's Way. Any company that guarantees the freshness of their product would be good. There is a company called Vitamin Shoppe that I know has an internet store. They carry many different brands as well as their own brand. You might check them out to see if the prices would be better - they are often much lower than at my local stores - the catch of course is the shipping.
Hope you can find something soon. Good luck with your journey.
waxingmoon
I do massage each morning using lavender oil. I use the essential oil mixed with a little lavender hand lotion because the essential oil alone can burn. I would not say I spend much time with it -maybe 3 - 5 minutes. I started using lavender oil based on the reports breast growth in young boys who had been using lavender oil - I figured since my chest looked a lot like a young boy's, I had nothing go lose... lol. Anyway -I really, really like the scent and whether or not it is having any NBE effect I will continue with it. I believe the massage I do enhances blood flow within the breast and is good for overall breast health.
I used to spend a lot more time massaging and would have temporary increase in size as a result. Since the effect was not permanent and I began to resent the intrusion into my time I now cut the massages short.
The bench press I was talking about is a common machine in most gyms. There is also a free-weight bench press- but it is safer to have a partner work with you if you use the free-weight bench press. The basic idea is the same as a push up. The bench press when done properly can allow you to isolate the pectoral (chest) muscle more.
I have started a thread on the main page titled 'tops of breast' which outlines some good exercises to increase chest muscle size.
Your routine sounds healthy. If I were you I would switch from using the isolation of biceps and triceps and work in some push ups or bench press instead. You will still work out your biceps and triceps but you will have the added benefit of shaping your chest. I almost think your treadmill may be too much for NBE - but if you are not losing weight and have enough body fat it might be okay. Sometimes a lot of aerobic exercise can make it hard to gain body fat (a plus for health in general but a negative for NBE).
Yeah, I know what you mean about wanting to look like the 'before' pictures... lol. Seriously, I think some of us are in a completely different league when it comes to NBE. I look at some of the before pics and I think 'Don't they know they already have great boobs?' ... lol.
Glad you are getting your program in order. Keep me posted on how you are doing.
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Unread postOct 20, 2007#42
Quote:How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):Waxingmoon,
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
My current program:
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day
Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week
Well the low shipping charge was false. Their system cannot really calculate the international shipping charges. They will send it to you later for confirmation, and my order came to more than $30. But I found another website oncatalog.com, which has lower cost for the Now Progesterone Cream. So I didn't order any other supplements; just stick with the progesterone cream for now since that might be the key to my problem of no growth at this point. I am really disgusted with Singapore's petty way of handling things. Anything to do with hormones requires a prescription, so there is absolutely no way I could get over-the-counter progesterone cream. If I go to the doctor, I don't know what to tell her in order to get her to prescribe me progesterone cream since I am not in menopause and don't have any other menopausal related problems. All the supplements are so expensive here. I looked at the whey protein powder today. A 5-lb bottle costs over $100!
I just started my exercise routine about 2 or 3 weeks ago, with the jogging on treadmill and weights on alternate days. So I don't know if I will lose much body fat doing it. I am quite thin except for the tummy. Any weight gain will go to the tummy. That's the damage from having had three children I guess. I will start the lavender oil massage as you described. Do you massage in a certain special way or just do the rotations? Look forward to having my progesterone cream coming.
Thanks for all your help.
Sarah
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Quote:How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):Hello Waxingmoon,
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
My current program:
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day
Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week
I was just wondering if you are continuing with your program and if you have had more growth. I started my program about two or three weeks ago, about the time when I first posted in your program page, and haven't noticed any growth yet. I wasn't expecting things to happen so soon anyway. The progesterone cream hasn't arrived. But I would like to know when it does, how I am supposed to use it. Is there instructions with it? Do I know to massage extensively with it or just rub in? How much would you contribute your growth to the massage? So many swear by the massage, but as a working mother of three, it's really hard to get the time in. I have so little with them anyway, and feel guilty about locking myself in the bathroom and let them do things on their own. A problem you don't have to worry about.
I am still continuing with the 5-day-a-week exercise routine. Three of the days, I do treadmill running/walking for 30 minutes, and mild weight and abs for another 20 minutes. The other two days, I just job on the treadmill for 30 minutes and call it quits. I have somehow gained quite a bit of weight in the last 6 months, probably this sedatory job and my chocolate-crazy habits. I was under 110 lbs, but recently have gone up to 116-118 lbs. And the extra weight all seems to be on the tummy and butt. None where I want it unfortunately. Sigh. Do you think I should leave the weight alone and not worry about it, lest when doing cardio, I affect my NBE efforts negatively? Any other tips you could offer. Since I feel my situation most resembles yours among other NBE participants, I would like to follow what has proven to be successful for you. Thanks.Quote
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Unread postNov 01, 2007#44
Quote:How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):Hi Sara,
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
My current program:
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day
Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week
Sorry I missed your earlier post. I had not checked this page for a while.
In answer to your question about progesterone cream. Just apply it like you would lotion - that is you rub it in until it seems to disappear. You don't want a thick layer all in one place. You also want to apply it to areas that have high blood flow and thin skin. Some good areas are the front and back of the neck, the insides of the arms, the back of the knee, top of the feet and back of the hands. You want to avoid places that have a lot of body fat because you don't want to store the progesterone, you want it to go into circulation. Rotate the sites you use each day so you will not have a build up in one area. Try to use a site no more than once every 3 days.
The progesterone you get should tell you how much to use to create a 20mg dose. The brand I use has a pump that delivers the precise amount. One pump equals 20 mg.
In answer to your question about massage. I use the essential lavender oil mixed with a small amount of lavender hand lotion. I bet I spend less than five minutes during the massage. I concentrate on making circular motions around the entire breast then upward strokes with both hands from the bottom of the breast.
I also massage the area of the rib cage to the sides of the breast as well as the areas above the breast. My whole idea is to increase blood and lymph flow through the breast tissue. This is different that when I first started NBE. I got tired of massaging each breast for 5 minutes and although it gave me a slight increase it was only a temporary thing. So don't feel you need to rob those kids of your presence. You can do the massage you need in a very short period of time.
Oh yeah, another thing I do each morning is use the shower massage on the breasts. At the end of my shower I direct the water stream onto each breast using very warm/hot water. I will even lean forward and allow the spray to massage the breasts. The temperature is just at the limit of what I find pleasant and it leaves the breasts looking rosy. I believe this enhances the blood flow to the breasts and is good before my lavender massage.
About the other question. -Am I still growing? -Yes. Just his morning I was noticing how much larger my breasts were at this time of my cycle from previous months. I think I am almost up to most peoples starting pictures now ...lol (okay - not those "b/c cup what are you doing needing more breast you buxom goddesses" ones -but the A cup ones) My growth is slow and comes in fits and starts.
I am filling my 34a push ups with bulges at the top - so for me this is heaven. I would say the flat Kansas wheat fields are becoming gentle rolling hills -- Next stop the Grand Titons... lol
Take care and hugs to your kiddies,
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Unread postNov 03, 2007#45
Quote:How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):Waxingmoon,
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
My current program:
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day
Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week
You are so cute! I am glad to know about the rolling hills headed for grand titons. Hope you get there soon. I am just starting up. No progesterone cream yet. Still somewhere in the air between FL and here. Hope to get it soon and get things moving. Thanks for the detailed explanation of what you do about the cream and massage and everything else. Catch you later.
Sarah
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Unread postNov 23, 2007#46
Quote:How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):Just wanted to post an update on my NBE and vitamin regime. In reading through my posts I must say I have gone through a lot of changes since first beginning NBE. And I also must say -I am soooooo strange. Dear lord -what was that haiku stuff all about. I don't do any drugs, so I can't blame it on that. I must be insane.... but at least it's the happy kind. Anyhoo.... here is what I am currently doing.
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
My current program:
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day
Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week
During morning shower -light massage to breasts with shower stream and hot water (no scalding just very, very warm).
Right after the shower -Lavender oil -about a teaspoon full with a squirt of lavender hand lotion to dilute. I massage this into breasts using circular motions and sweeping motions from sides and below. My main focus is to stimulate circulation and lymph drainage. The smell of lavender is heavenly.
Breakfast - 6oz yogurt with 2 Tbsp crushed flax seed, 2 Tbsp psyllium husks and a heaping scoop of whey protein powder. Mixed with either water or milk to make drinkable. I consume this while reading Eve's forum.
AM Vitamins
Multi - Bluebonnet (maxi two) - 1 tablet
Methyl B12 - 1000 mcg
Ubiquinol -Bluebonnet (a more active form of Co Q10) - 50 mg
Ester C - 1000 mg
Evening Primrose Oil - 1300 mg
Vitex extract - 225 mg
Calcium/magnesium/potasium - 500mg/225mg/225mg
Codliver Oil - 3 capsules
E - 200 IU
Chromium Picolinate - 200 mcg
11am -1st lunch -usually chicken or fish -3 - 4 oz, orange or apple slices, green beans or other vegetable, 1 cup green Earl grey tea.
2pm -2nd lunch -usually chicken or fish -3 - 4 oz, orange or apple slices, green beans or other vegetable, 1 cup green Earl grey tea. (yes, left overs from first lunch - I always bring my lunch to work with me.
Between 9 am and 7 pm I will have done 2 - 4 hours of exercise -most mild intensity but 3 times a week more intense muscle building exercises.
8pm dinner -usually fish - 3 - 4 oz, pasta and vegetables.
9 pm - protein drink - 16 grams whey protein powder with water.
PM Vitamins -30 minutes before bed.
Co Q10 - 30 mg
Ester C - 1000 mg
Vitex extract - 225 mg
Calcium/magnesium/potasium - 500mg/225mg/225mg
Codliver Oil - 3 capsules
E - 200 IU
Chromium Picolinate - 200 mcg
Fish oil -Spectrum brand - 500 mg
Melatonin - 3 mg
Selenium - 100 mcg
Sleep - 7 - 8 hours per night.
The biggest changes are in adding the ubiquinol (this is the active form of CoQ 10 that the body creates from ubiquinone CoQ10 along with an enzyme - I suspect I don't have enough of the enzyme to make the active form of CoQ10) - I reduced Vitex to just the extract, I increased EPO, I reduced melatonin, I am using fish oil instead of Black current oil. Also I only used Progesterone cream 2 nights this cycle.
Measurements:
Above breast under arms: 33"
Fullest part of breast: 35"
Below breasts: 30"
Waist: 27"
Hips: 37"
I haven't measured in a while - Wow! the fullest part of my breast is bigger than ever! And I am smaller around the ribcage. I think this means I am actually a true 34a!!!
Just one more thing to be thankful for...
waxingmoon
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Unread postNov 23, 2007#47
Quote:How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):Not sure about you being an A......Most measurement guides add 4 or 5 to you underbust to give your band size then if that is equal to your bust you're an A, bust 1 inch bigger is a B, 2 inches bigger is a C...this makes you 34B! Try to buy the same bra in 34A and 34B to check but you may be pleasantly surprised - they'll also look more heavy and round as your underbust measurement decreases. Thanks again for all your advice x
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
My current program:
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day
Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week
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Unread postNov 26, 2007#48
Quote:How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):Wow Waxingmoon, you sound great! I am jealous! Being overseas and lacking means of getting all the herbs you listed, I have to make do with what I can. You seem to do a lot of exercise, which makes sense since you are a trainer. For me who have to juggle work and kids and everything else, it's hard to squeeze out enough time to do any exercise. I started a while ago and stuck to it for about 2 months, but the schedule just got too hard and quit. Now I am just playing tennis about two time a week, 1 hour each time. It's not intensive since I am only a beginner, but I suppose it provides me with some exercise. Do you have any suggestions as to what are the important forms of exercise to do for somebody with limited time? If you think cardiovascular is essential, I will go back to it. Do you feel I should do some free weights? I don't like push-ups, but I will do them if they are key. Thanks.
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
My current program:
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day
Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week
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Unread postDec 05, 2007#49
Quote:How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):Hi Waxingmoon,
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
My current program:
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day
Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week
I think you said you buy your herbs from local stores. But could I ask what brands you buy of which herbs? Do you have an opinion which brands are better than others and what to look at when choosing. I have the only option of buying online, so my choices are rather limited, and costs are quite high. I want to makes sure I get the right things, herbs that are effective. Thanks.
Sarah
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Unread postDec 05, 2007#50
Quote:How I got my first inch of growth (started Sept 06):Wow - haven't checked this page for a while - sorry it has taken me so long to respond.
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) applied days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
My current program:
Natural Progesterone cream (40mg) days 12-28 of cycle
Whey protein drinks (20g) 2x per day
Maca root powder (1/2 tbsp) 1 x per day
Pure Cocoa butter and Vit. E oil massage (5 min) 2x per day
Borage oil (240GLA) 1x per day
Vitex Angus Castus extract (30 drops) 2x per day
Exercises for chest:
Push ups (20 reps) 2 - 3 x per week
Bench press (3 sets of 20 reps) 1 - 2 times per week
Louise,
You are too kind. It is possible I could find a bra that would fit and it might be a 34B, but there is not enough breast tissue yet for that to be a real B cup. Someday soon I hope, but not yet. As it is, the A cup is quite a change for me, so I am not disappointed in any way.
Sarah,
I think cardiovascular exercise is good for health. Your tennis involves a lot of start/stop action which can be hard on your joints and ligaments. It would be a good idea to use some strength training to protect your legs. If you have a gym available, leg extensions and leg curls are good machines to use. At home, you can place a ball behind your back (basket ball sized) and lean against a wall and do squats. (Keep your knees over your ankles and don't drop your hips below knee height)
For upper body, wall push ups or push ups on the knees can improve your chest muscles and are important to NBE. At a gym you can use the bench press or chest press machine for the same effect. You can also lie on your back with free weights and do a chest press that way.
As far as the herbs, standardized formulas are best (which means they guarantee the amount of potent herb in each capsule). I think one of my brands is Nature's Way. Any company that guarantees the freshness of their product would be good. There is a company called Vitamin Shoppe that I know has an internet store. They carry many different brands as well as their own brand. You might check them out to see if the prices would be better - they are often much lower than at my local stores - the catch of course is the shipping.
Hope you can find something soon. Good luck with your journey.
waxingmoon