[Eve M]

Changes to program:

Still doing Brava 15 hours daily but probably now for total 30 weeks.
Using EPO instead of dome prep.

Still taking WU x 6 daily

Added 1000mg soy, SOY=SUCCESS!

Adding:

1200mg hops
400mg barley
800mg oats

(I'm short of what Eve took by these amounts)

Will try with the oils but don't like them, also going to try more protein powder and soy milk in smoothies and got powdered flax seeds.

Doing better at drinking more water...just need to find something to settle my stomach.

Doing personal trainer workouts and trying to stick to 1350 calories as recommended by Waxingmoon.

Seeing the gynaecologist next week to review POMs.
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Unread postNov 21, 2007#42

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Consultant seems pleased, so no need to increase the metformin and wants me to take another 6 months of Dianette before going onto a different brand.

Difficult to get small enough quantities of the dry herbs with a spoon as they're strong extracts, so just using the minimum and will be every other day with porridge and a slim fast for dinner to keep my weight down.

DMSO arrived today so will begin my science project on Thursday evening when I start Brava week 21.

Waist down to 24.5 the last two days and weight around 106-107 lbs. Butt toning up fast, abs possibly, thighs - fatty bit may be higher up and the rest feels harder if not any smaller. Only been two weeks.
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Unread postNov 21, 2007#43

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Brava hours this week:

14.25/12.75/14.25/14.5/12.75/15/17.5

Total: 101 Average: 14.43

Total so far: 2116.75 Average: 15.12

Looking better and better in the evenings but Lexy's post has worried me, frustrating to not be able to tell until after I'm done but will stick with it for 10 more weeks then try the new labour intensive regime of chi massage, pansyclub massage, lobe massage, BB, possibly magnets.
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Unread postNov 23, 2007#44

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

15 hours Brava average
DMSO solution, then EPO to moisturise straight after
30 mins BB session every evening with DMSO solution in BB cups, then rinse before back to Brava.

6x Wonderup
0.5 tsp EPO / borage oil
1g Soy 10% isoflavones
1x Dianette in cycle
2x Metformin

3-4x weekly porridge + slim fast for dinner with approx. 500mg barley, 200mg avena sativa and hops

Training program every day including 10 mins cardio 3-4x weekly

40-70g Protein and 2 litres water daily

Measurements: Actual (Target)

Bust: 33-33.5 (33.5-34)
Leaning: 34-34.5 (35)
Minimum: 32-32.5 (32.5-33)
Underbust: 27-28 (27)
Waist: 24.5 (24)
Hips: 35.5-36 (35-35.5)
Thigh: 21 (19)
Weight: 106-108 (105)

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Unread postNov 24, 2007#45

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Just done 1/2 hour BB session, found 4-5 small lumps like half a pea but white along both right and left cleavage sides near the top. Not soft like blisters so not sure what they are. Also not sure if I'm getting a rib ridge under the right boob, at least it's not visible. Maintained pretty much same size after 13.25 hours domes off.
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Unread postNov 29, 2007#46

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

The BB lumps have gone, not sure what they were, managing half hour before each Brava session. Using 'suck' on 10-11 o'clock but can feel the suction getting easier and don't need any silicone sheeting. Been using the soy tincture twice daily.

Thought I was about to get a rash as I did 23 hours with really quite hard suction and had lots of little bumps like raised red pinpricks when I took the domes off, but they were gone a few hours later. Had massive sternum swelling though after this longer session - almost 1cm!!! Took it easy on suction today and all is back to normal alhamdulillah.

Brava hours this week:

13/12.25/12.5/18/16/23/15

Total: 109.75 Average: 15.68

Total so far: 2226.5 Average: 15.15

Next 3 weeks I'm going to be mega busy with 6 days at work and mortgage-related stuff on days off so may not get great hours. Will be good opportunity to take pics and measurements when I should have less swelling.

Diet ok, been working out but knee was bad so got a bit lazy last weekend, back into it now though and hope to give the Callenetics a go. Just about managing to take approx 3g either borage oil or EPO every day now, it's really not so bad. Still taking the WU + the extra Eve herbs. Stomach feels much better alhamdulillah, think it's all the porridge so will keep that up too.

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Unread postDec 05, 2007#47

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Been doing the BB with the herbal solution for 30 mins each evening and do get a little swelling and a bit of a lift but the last few nights the lumps were back but instead of being like lentils the'd coalesced into a rough edged strip (approx 2cm wide) down the cleavage side of each boob, then last night I noticed my boobs looked a bit weird a little while after I put the domes on so I tok them off for a closer look and was horrified! They were both purple and veiny and covered in blotchy fatty bits that were pale and very slightly raised - not sure if this is how swelling begins and I've just not noticed before but put the domes back on and carried on and it looked ok a couple of hours later. Haven't used the BB today and have possibly been using too high a setting. Started using the magnets while at work. 2x DA2 for each nipple on positive, haven't tried the energising or CVS yet. Shorter hours for next few weeks as working 6 days.

Brava hours this week:

15.25/12.25/13.5/14.5/13.5/14/18

Total: 101 Average: 14.43

Total so far: 2327.5 Average: 15.11

Got to the target points of waist 24, underbust 27, weight 105 and I think the thighs may be improving slightly possibly due to the exciting combination of porridge for dinner and lots of exercise. Knee been a bit achey.
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Unread postDec 11, 2007#48

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Hi Louise,
congrats on your well-informed program page!
I understand that you live in the UK so I would really appreciate your advice on a reputable site (with low shipping costs for europeans)from which I could order my herbs.
Best of luck to you,
RomaV
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Unread postDec 11, 2007#49

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

I got a really good service, and good value for money in terms of product (and they have everything) from www.herbalextractsplus.com is US however their international shipping cost is a flat rate so make sure you order in bulk. Also you need to consider import taxes in your own country - it ended up costing me about £100 in shipping and taxes which was more than I spent on the herbs!

Otherwise vortex heath is in Europe and has quite a few herbs, I have only bought wonderup from them and have been pleased with the service. I don't use their other herbs as they come in gelatine capsules and I'm veggie. Arkopharma have some things like borage (AKA starflower) oil in vegecaps or actually I bought the liquid borage and evening primrose oils (just a bottle of liquid, I take 1 teaspoon) from Power Health and have been very pleased with the service and the price. My mum bought the flaxseed oil from www.zipvit.com but I think it tastes quite strong so I use the ground up flax seeds (6 teaspoons ground = 1 teaspoon oil) in porridge 3x per week. The grounds have a nice bran taste.

It always amazes me that anyone would read all my ramblings! Good luck with your program x

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Unread postDec 15, 2007#50

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Still getting this mushy fatty bit down the cleavage area after BB but also getting bigger swelling and more fullness, from C to full C. Also as the left cup is filled quite quickly the right boob gets a better workout so I get more swelling on the right - hopefully this may help even them up a bit.

Been slacking with herb porridge, added soy, oils, water.....naughty naughty! Just about managing 6x WU daily. Also been eating more fatty food as I'm really stressed about whole mortgage thing. Hairdresser appointment next Friday is all that keeps me going! Seem to be about 33-33.25 and underbust 26.75-27. Just can't wait to get finished now, see what my result is and get on to the next cycle. Also I always phase out / fall asleep during the hypnosis - will try to address this once the house stuff is sorted.

Brava hours this week:

13/12.75/14/14.25/13.5/15/19.5

Total: 102 Average: 14.57

Total so far: 2429.5 Average 15.09