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I will slowly be adding BO until I reach the recommended 3 per day. I have decided to discontinue the above routine wiht the herbs while using BO. I will continue the GY's program along with the BO.
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Unread postJun 27, 2007#4
AF should arrive any day now. I will post if I notice any change.
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Unread postJun 28, 2007#5
I should also note that I have been drinking caffiene again lately and have been slacking off on my massages. AF makes me lazy.
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Unread postJul 02, 2007#7
Just measured and I have already gained back that 1/4"
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Unread postAug 08, 2007#8
AF hasn't even left yet, this is such a good sign. I think I finally found the right herb combo
@ nipples = 37 (fully regained plus 1/4" gain)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.25 (1/4" gain! right where I need to fill out!))
3 inches above nipple = 36 (fully regained)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
I AM SO EXCITED!!!
note to self about the tramendous feelings of swelling, heaviness, and tingles/aches shortly after each dose I have been getting the past few days
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Unread postAug 11, 2007#9
I am gonna try and lose it and hope that with the help of herbs it doesn't come back off from there. Also I ran out of licorice root so dropping that for now. And gonna try to find gelatin and possibly royal jelly to add to my program. Also fenugreek is back down to 4 a day. I think I stalled when I went up to 6 I shrank slightly. My body is so darn sensitive to these herbs.
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Unread postAug 15, 2007#10
but I am maintaining at 37" even with my short break so am starting back up and will keep the fenugreek at 4/day like before I stalled.
These are total daily:
4 Fenugreek 2000mg
1 wild yam root 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg
2 Black Cohosh 1080mg
9 Papaya Enzyme 135mg
5-HTP 100mg
3 Royal Jelly 1500mg
6 Gelatin 3900mg
and this is in another herbal formula I take:
Raw Spleen Concentrate 30mg
Milk Thistle 705mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 396mg
Manganese 30mg
Quercetin 300mg
Black Current Oil 192mg
Also note I am doing some brief massaging each pm.
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Unread postJun 27, 2007#4
Quote:StatsI have reached the 3 BO per day (1500mg per day) DNE brand
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
AF should arrive any day now. I will post if I notice any change.
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Unread postJun 28, 2007#5
Quote:Statsday one AF, already lost 1/4 inch
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
I should also note that I have been drinking caffiene again lately and have been slacking off on my massages. AF makes me lazy.
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Unread postJul 01, 2007#6
Quote:Statsday 2 AF seems to have disappeared. I started thursday night, now less than 48 hours later it is gone.
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
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Unread postJul 02, 2007#7
Quote:StatsJust wanted to add I have not lost any more inches, just the initial 1/4". Maybe because AF was so short? Also I think the bo is kicking in already. Not gained any inches but breasts "feel" bigger/fuller/heavier/tender. Could be just because AF left already or maybe from the bo. I plan to do my gy's massages for longer to help ease some of the soreness like what I had initially done. Also note I try to go without a bra whenever possible while at home and no visitors. Don't know if it helps at all but thought I'd make note of it.
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
Just measured and I have already gained back that 1/4"
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Quote:StatsDay 3 and already regained my loss plus some!!! hippee
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
AF hasn't even left yet, this is such a good sign. I think I finally found the right herb combo
@ nipples = 37 (fully regained plus 1/4" gain)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.25 (1/4" gain! right where I need to fill out!))
3 inches above nipple = 36 (fully regained)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
I AM SO EXCITED!!!
note to self about the tramendous feelings of swelling, heaviness, and tingles/aches shortly after each dose I have been getting the past few days
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Quote:StatsI just found I have gained a few pounds with AF so increase possibly came just from that. Boo hoo
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
I am gonna try and lose it and hope that with the help of herbs it doesn't come back off from there. Also I ran out of licorice root so dropping that for now. And gonna try to find gelatin and possibly royal jelly to add to my program. Also fenugreek is back down to 4 a day. I think I stalled when I went up to 6 I shrank slightly. My body is so darn sensitive to these herbs.
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Quote:Statshave added some more herbs. Think I am becoming an herb junkie!
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
but I am maintaining at 37" even with my short break so am starting back up and will keep the fenugreek at 4/day like before I stalled.
These are total daily:
4 Fenugreek 2000mg
1 wild yam root 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg
2 Black Cohosh 1080mg
9 Papaya Enzyme 135mg
5-HTP 100mg
3 Royal Jelly 1500mg
6 Gelatin 3900mg
and this is in another herbal formula I take:
Raw Spleen Concentrate 30mg
Milk Thistle 705mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 396mg
Manganese 30mg
Quercetin 300mg
Black Current Oil 192mg
Also note I am doing some brief massaging each pm.