25-01-2022, 15:29
starting gelatine drink mix today, in place of gelatine caps
7g protein
27mg vit C
4mg niacin
7g gelatine (7000mg)
also this month started back on bcp so wont have af for a few months
don't know if that will help or hinder growth
I will take measurements every 1st of the month (since no af to go by)
that was about my cycle day 4 this month. so will go by that
and last but not least I am cutting dosages inhalf the rest of this month and see how goes. I have forgotten several days to take my herbs and then would take just one dose before bed. I noticed a lot of achiness the past two days especially in my left side (the smaller one). So gonna try that for a while. I am so darn sensitive to all this stuff maybe I've been taking too much. Also dropping saw palmetto for the time being due to my suspicion it is what caused my weight gain
in addition to the gelatine drink mix (above) this is new dosages
2 Fenugreek 1000mg
1 wild yam root 500mg
1 Black Cohosh 540mg
3 Papaya Enzyme
1 5-HTP 100mg
3 Royal Jelly 1500mg
and this is in another herbal formula I take daily:
Raw Spleen Concentrate 30mg
Milk Thistle 705mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 396mg
Manganese 30mg
Quercetin 300mg
Black Current Oil 192mg
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forgot to add I have also been drinking soymilk. I try to drink 2 glasses per day and I add ovaltine for more nutrition.
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Unread postSep 02, 2007#15
3 inches above nipple = 36 (1/2" increase since last month)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36 (1/4" increase since last month)
at nipples = 37 (1/2" increase since last month)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
Overall slightly more than I had with gy. Doesn't "look" like any increase to me and I can't see difference in pics from when I was doing gy. maybe another month will make it more visible.
3 Gelatin drink mixes daily 21000mg
2 Fenugreek 1000mg
1 Black Cohosh 540mg
6 Papaya Enzyme
2 5-HTP 200mg
1 Royal Jelly 500mg
and this is in another herbal formula I take daily:
Raw Spleen Concentrate 30mg
Milk Thistle 705mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 396mg
Manganese 30mg
Quercetin 300mg
Black Current Oil 192mg
7g protein
27mg vit C
4mg niacin
7g gelatine (7000mg)
also this month started back on bcp so wont have af for a few months
don't know if that will help or hinder growth
I will take measurements every 1st of the month (since no af to go by)
that was about my cycle day 4 this month. so will go by that
and last but not least I am cutting dosages inhalf the rest of this month and see how goes. I have forgotten several days to take my herbs and then would take just one dose before bed. I noticed a lot of achiness the past two days especially in my left side (the smaller one). So gonna try that for a while. I am so darn sensitive to all this stuff maybe I've been taking too much. Also dropping saw palmetto for the time being due to my suspicion it is what caused my weight gain
in addition to the gelatine drink mix (above) this is new dosages
2 Fenugreek 1000mg
1 wild yam root 500mg
1 Black Cohosh 540mg
3 Papaya Enzyme
1 5-HTP 100mg
3 Royal Jelly 1500mg
and this is in another herbal formula I take daily:
Raw Spleen Concentrate 30mg
Milk Thistle 705mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 396mg
Manganese 30mg
Quercetin 300mg
Black Current Oil 192mg
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Unread postAug 25, 2007#12
Quote:Statssomething seems to be happening. yesterday my right side was also having the same achy pains the left one was having before. and this morning they both "felt" very sore and swollen, although they weren't really swollen to look at, just felt that way.
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
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Quote:Statsboth sore all day today, lots of deep aching on both sides, heaviness although no noticable increase. Feel very itchy deep inside too. hard to describe. I am massaging more, trying to do it morning and night. lots more very noticable lobes, very sore. Also note royal jelly only 1 now so 500mg. considering adding the goat's rue everyone is talking about but want to give this a month before adding anything new. Gonna try 2 gelatin drinks per, morning and night, if I can take it. I hate the way they taste, way too sweet, yuck! I seriously doubt that one per day is enough to equal the chicken feet soup. Gonna try two and go from there.
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
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Unread postAug 30, 2007#14
Quote:StatsI have started taking 2 gelatin packets per day. Am working up to 3 now. I have noticed the feel is changing. They feel much firmer. Fewer very hard lobes now. I can still feel them, just not very hard. I will measure and photo on saturday. Though I don't think there will be any growth to report yet.
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
forgot to add I have also been drinking soymilk. I try to drink 2 glasses per day and I add ovaltine for more nutrition.
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Unread postSep 02, 2007#15
Quote:Stats9/2/07: if af were here this month should make it cycle day 5
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
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Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
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Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
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6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
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7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
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Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
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7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
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Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
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8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
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9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
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2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
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Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
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ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
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Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
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3 inches above nipple = 36 (1/2" increase since last month)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36 (1/4" increase since last month)
at nipples = 37 (1/2" increase since last month)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
Overall slightly more than I had with gy. Doesn't "look" like any increase to me and I can't see difference in pics from when I was doing gy. maybe another month will make it more visible.
3 Gelatin drink mixes daily 21000mg
2 Fenugreek 1000mg
1 Black Cohosh 540mg
6 Papaya Enzyme
2 5-HTP 200mg
1 Royal Jelly 500mg
and this is in another herbal formula I take daily:
Raw Spleen Concentrate 30mg
Milk Thistle 705mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 396mg
Manganese 30mg
Quercetin 300mg
Black Current Oil 192mg