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I have been taking a break from herbs for about a week. I have had bad pms and so decided to let myself cycle. I will update measurements and pics on cycle day 5 later this week. I can really see a difference though! can't wait to compare pics!
still doing these things during my break:
skin brushing most nights before the following routine, always toward the breasts.
still massaging with evoo, sp, wy, fg at night when I remember. I don't think this is having a huge effect for me but I do think it may give me a boost once in a while.
wearing magnets at night with both positive polarities over nipples and just added another set to outter breasts (straight across from nipple level). Worn all night during sleep.
slight massage AM after removing magnets and PM before applying them again
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Here is last month's measurements for comparison:
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5" (went down 1/2")
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
collar bone to nipple = 7 (1/4" increase here)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
waist = 28.5 (went down 1/2")
fattest part around hips = 35" (same)
fattest part around thigh = 23.25 (down 1/4")
This month's measurements:
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
collar bone to nipple = 7 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
waist = 28 (down 1/2")
fattest part around hips = 35" (same)
fattest part around thigh = 23 (down 1/4")
looks like my fat is shifting upwards
so far!
ok well the pics aren't as obvious as I had hoped, but I did lose some volume with AF. And haven't gained much which is to be expected since I am taking a break form herbs. But I can definately tell they are higher and fuller toward the center cleavage line. So basically up and closer together at least that is how it looks to me. I know they are not closer together but they are only filling out in the center (inner breast). My nipples are super ITCHY today! Wonder if I could be allergic to nickle plating of the magnets? Probably not because the sides where I put the other magnets are not itchy (at least not yet). I am also leaking a slight clear fluid not from the nipple where I'd be leaking if I where lactating but right beside the right nipple. You can kind of see in my pic that the right nipple (left in photo) has a red area well that is leaking if I squeeze it. Not sure if it is a pimple or what. But otherwise If I squeeze the actual nipple, no leaking there. so could be a pimple from the evoo. I am also getting enlarged pores around my areolas. I did that when I was pregnant and breastfeeding, so wonder if this means I will start to lactate soon? gosh I hope not but I will be monitoring this.
starting yasmin today
1 Gelatin drink mix 7 grams (sometimes...I often skip this now)
1 Magnesium citrate 100mg
5 Papaya Enzyme
2 collagen with vit C (vit C total 250mg, Hydrolyzed Collagen 1480mg)
2 fennel seed (about 1000mg total)
2 Licorice root about 1000mg total
2 st. john's wort
1 valerian root
1 benadryl
1 kelp 660mg (400mcg iodine)
1 dong quai root about 530mg
I feel pretty good about these doses now. except for one thing. not sure what it is yet.
skin brushing most nights before the following routine, always toward the breasts.
going to give boobie batter a rest for now. Maybe this will stop the chest pimples. I will continue to use it occationally before a shower so that the oil won't all soak in. evoo, sp, wy, fg. I don't think this is having a huge effect for me but I do think it may give me a boost once in a while.
wearing magnets at night with both positive polarities over nipples and another set to outter breasts (across from nipple level). Worn all night during sleep attached to a sports bra.
slight massage AM after removing magnets and PM before applying them again
I am adding another sports bra under the one that has the magnets. This will protect my skin from touching the actual magnets in case I am allergic to the nickle plating.
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Unread postNov 01, 2007#33
I just measured myself, and normally at this point in my cycle any losses would have been regained plus a little. but not only have I not regained it, looks like I lost a bit more. I don't know if this may have anything to do with the fact that they seem to be shifting upwards or if it is from the break from herbs. I do think the left looks a bit smaller.
Adding to routine: progesterone cream once a day, hops 500mg, goat's rue 500mg, and I may add back in the boobie mask. I will also remove the added magnets on the outter sides since so far no progress from this. Maybe it was too much?
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Unread postNov 13, 2007#34
first of all, apologies for posting on your page, I hope you don't mind, please say if you do! But I thought it a good wasy of getting in touch.
Thanks for replying aout 5htp. I was wondering about it anyay because I seem prone to becoming more low in winter, which is tough on everyone - like permanent pmt. But now I see that the timing of programmes may be important for success i am wondering if it would help with that too. Have you checked out that thread? If not please do and let me know what you think. It's depressing in itself to think I might have started my programme at entirely the wrong time of year to have any effect but I hope the 5htp might counteract the lack of serotonin. By the way I haven't noticed fat going on in winter before (at least, no more than can be explained by eating more puddings!) so I hope this might work to my benefit. I'd really apreciate hearing your take on this. By the way your boobs look really good. But them I'd be happy to look like your starting picture! Like you I breasfed (2 kids, one year each) but I'm older than you (36). My kids are 6 and 8 now.
Thanks for any advice. You know how it is when you are new and desperate for boobs!!
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Unread postNov 13, 2007#35
I have been doing some form of nbe for a long time if you count bb machine, is about a year and a half. but if you mean when did I start routinely taking herbs was in early July. On the 5HTP my bottle said to only take one a day, they are 100mg, but you can safely take up to 400mg daily. I needed 200mg daily. just wanted to let you know you can take more if needed. give it 2 weeks and if you don't notice improvement try taking one more.
I'm not sure if timing has much to do with mine. I started herbs in the summer with fenugreek and sp and gained in my tummy, hips, thighs. cut out sp and that helped but whe i switched off fg to fennel seems to be much better now. so for me as far as gaining on the lower half I actually gained more there during the summer months and am losing there now even though I don't exercise and havent' lost any pounds. So I know something must be making my fat shift. no sure if credit is from switching to fennel, taking various stress reducing herbs or if skin brushing has anything to do with it. I do feel strongly that skin brushing has at least some to do with it, because since I stopped doing it the past two weeks some of my hip fat has come back. I have neither gained nore lost any weight. I am starting to take pictures of this area (though I'm not posting them) just so I can compare and be sure it is not just all in my head.
Another thing I must mention is that I started out with large breasts when I was young, each child I breastfed sucked more and more fat out of my boobs until they were half their original size. so that may have a lot to do with why I respond so quickly to everything I try, because they have already been much larger than they are now. Maybe that makes them more sensitive. What I am trying to say is that my results are probably not typical of the average person.
still doing these things during my break:
skin brushing most nights before the following routine, always toward the breasts.
still massaging with evoo, sp, wy, fg at night when I remember. I don't think this is having a huge effect for me but I do think it may give me a boost once in a while.
wearing magnets at night with both positive polarities over nipples and just added another set to outter breasts (straight across from nipple level). Worn all night during sleep.
slight massage AM after removing magnets and PM before applying them again
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Quote:StatsIt's time to measure in. I was having really bad PMS so decided to let myself cycle and this is cycle day 5. I have sent in updated pics which should be posted soon. I have been taking a break from herbs and will start back up today.
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
Here is last month's measurements for comparison:
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5" (went down 1/2")
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
collar bone to nipple = 7 (1/4" increase here)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
waist = 28.5 (went down 1/2")
fattest part around hips = 35" (same)
fattest part around thigh = 23.25 (down 1/4")
This month's measurements:
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
collar bone to nipple = 7 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
waist = 28 (down 1/2")
fattest part around hips = 35" (same)
fattest part around thigh = 23 (down 1/4")
looks like my fat is shifting upwards
so far! ok well the pics aren't as obvious as I had hoped, but I did lose some volume with AF. And haven't gained much which is to be expected since I am taking a break form herbs. But I can definately tell they are higher and fuller toward the center cleavage line. So basically up and closer together at least that is how it looks to me. I know they are not closer together but they are only filling out in the center (inner breast). My nipples are super ITCHY today! Wonder if I could be allergic to nickle plating of the magnets? Probably not because the sides where I put the other magnets are not itchy (at least not yet). I am also leaking a slight clear fluid not from the nipple where I'd be leaking if I where lactating but right beside the right nipple. You can kind of see in my pic that the right nipple (left in photo) has a red area well that is leaking if I squeeze it. Not sure if it is a pimple or what. But otherwise If I squeeze the actual nipple, no leaking there. so could be a pimple from the evoo. I am also getting enlarged pores around my areolas. I did that when I was pregnant and breastfeeding, so wonder if this means I will start to lactate soon? gosh I hope not but I will be monitoring this.
starting yasmin today
1 Gelatin drink mix 7 grams (sometimes...I often skip this now)
1 Magnesium citrate 100mg
5 Papaya Enzyme
2 collagen with vit C (vit C total 250mg, Hydrolyzed Collagen 1480mg)
2 fennel seed (about 1000mg total)
2 Licorice root about 1000mg total
2 st. john's wort
1 valerian root
1 benadryl
1 kelp 660mg (400mcg iodine)
1 dong quai root about 530mg
I feel pretty good about these doses now. except for one thing. not sure what it is yet.
skin brushing most nights before the following routine, always toward the breasts.
going to give boobie batter a rest for now. Maybe this will stop the chest pimples. I will continue to use it occationally before a shower so that the oil won't all soak in. evoo, sp, wy, fg. I don't think this is having a huge effect for me but I do think it may give me a boost once in a while.
wearing magnets at night with both positive polarities over nipples and another set to outter breasts (across from nipple level). Worn all night during sleep attached to a sports bra.
slight massage AM after removing magnets and PM before applying them again
I am adding another sports bra under the one that has the magnets. This will protect my skin from touching the actual magnets in case I am allergic to the nickle plating.
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Unread postNov 01, 2007#33
Quote:Statsthe nipple pimple is gone. Over the past week I stopped using the boobie batter and also wore a sports bra inside the sports bra with the magnets on it just in case I have an allergy to the nickle plating on the magnets. my skin has cleared and the nipple itchies have stopped so for now I will continue using two sports bras. these bras are quite loose so I don't see any problem in using two.
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
I just measured myself, and normally at this point in my cycle any losses would have been regained plus a little. but not only have I not regained it, looks like I lost a bit more. I don't know if this may have anything to do with the fact that they seem to be shifting upwards or if it is from the break from herbs. I do think the left looks a bit smaller.
Adding to routine: progesterone cream once a day, hops 500mg, goat's rue 500mg, and I may add back in the boobie mask. I will also remove the added magnets on the outter sides since so far no progress from this. Maybe it was too much?
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Unread postNov 13, 2007#34
Quote:StatsHi Kieyah,
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************
approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
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Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
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7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
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2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
first of all, apologies for posting on your page, I hope you don't mind, please say if you do! But I thought it a good wasy of getting in touch.
Thanks for replying aout 5htp. I was wondering about it anyay because I seem prone to becoming more low in winter, which is tough on everyone - like permanent pmt. But now I see that the timing of programmes may be important for success i am wondering if it would help with that too. Have you checked out that thread? If not please do and let me know what you think. It's depressing in itself to think I might have started my programme at entirely the wrong time of year to have any effect but I hope the 5htp might counteract the lack of serotonin. By the way I haven't noticed fat going on in winter before (at least, no more than can be explained by eating more puddings!) so I hope this might work to my benefit. I'd really apreciate hearing your take on this. By the way your boobs look really good. But them I'd be happy to look like your starting picture! Like you I breasfed (2 kids, one year each) but I'm older than you (36). My kids are 6 and 8 now.
Thanks for any advice. You know how it is when you are new and desperate for boobs!!
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Quote:StatsI don't mind posting here at all. I think it is great that we can all ask questions and compare notes.
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker
My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.
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*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
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approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.
*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.
*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages
*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower
I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.
*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase
*************************************************
9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)
10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)
11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)
12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"
2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"
*************************************************
2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup
3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)
4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)
5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)
7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"
*************************************************
Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D
7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again
8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"
=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen
MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies
=============================================
I have been doing some form of nbe for a long time if you count bb machine, is about a year and a half. but if you mean when did I start routinely taking herbs was in early July. On the 5HTP my bottle said to only take one a day, they are 100mg, but you can safely take up to 400mg daily. I needed 200mg daily. just wanted to let you know you can take more if needed. give it 2 weeks and if you don't notice improvement try taking one more.
I'm not sure if timing has much to do with mine. I started herbs in the summer with fenugreek and sp and gained in my tummy, hips, thighs. cut out sp and that helped but whe i switched off fg to fennel seems to be much better now. so for me as far as gaining on the lower half I actually gained more there during the summer months and am losing there now even though I don't exercise and havent' lost any pounds. So I know something must be making my fat shift. no sure if credit is from switching to fennel, taking various stress reducing herbs or if skin brushing has anything to do with it. I do feel strongly that skin brushing has at least some to do with it, because since I stopped doing it the past two weeks some of my hip fat has come back. I have neither gained nore lost any weight. I am starting to take pictures of this area (though I'm not posting them) just so I can compare and be sure it is not just all in my head.
Another thing I must mention is that I started out with large breasts when I was young, each child I breastfed sucked more and more fat out of my boobs until they were half their original size. so that may have a lot to do with why I respond so quickly to everything I try, because they have already been much larger than they are now. Maybe that makes them more sensitive. What I am trying to say is that my results are probably not typical of the average person.