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Mango84
Sounds like going from the frying pan into the fire...when you get tired of taking so many pills ...just go to drinking down some awful tasting concoction! haha The Knox Nutrajoint doesn't have any taste...at least not supposed to and I don't taste anything when I put it in my coffee.




here are the magnets I use: http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DA2
They are really cheap, but if you aready have some strong magnets you might want to try those first. Another girl used some she had that were for crafts and they seem to be working for her.

hahaa mango! yeah maybe the taste will be so horrible I will be glad to go back to choking down the pills! I have never tried the nutrajoint. I may have to try it. too bad I bought about a 6 month supply of the knox for nails. it is orange flavored. i just hate the sugar free sweeteners. I hate the taste of diet sodas too. yuck! but that's just me. I have been seeing on ebay some gelatin powder from NOW that is tasteless. Maybe it is like the nutrajoint.
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Unread postJan 05, 2008#49

Stats
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker

My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.

*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************

approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.

*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.

*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek

I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.

*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages

*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower

*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower

I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.

*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase




*************************************************

9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)


10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)


11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)


12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"


1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"


2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"


*************************************************

2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup


3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)


4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)


5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)


7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"


*************************************************

Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D


7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again


8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"


=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen

MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies

=============================================

ok so for the past two days I have managed to make myself choke down all the pills at night. i think this is easier for me than spreading it out 2-3 times a day.
yasmin
1 Magnesium citrate 100mg
1 women's multivitamin
3 Fennel 1500mg total
3 Fenugreek 1500mg
3 Goat's Rue 1500mg
3 Hops 1500mg
1 Kelp 660mg (400mcg iodine)
1 Dong quai root about 530mg
1 Gelatin drink mix 7 grams
2 Collagen with vit C (vit C total 250mg, Hydrolyzed Collagen 1480mg)
2 Licorice root 1000mg total
1 Valerian root
1 Benadryl
1 Melatonin
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Unread postJan 11, 2008#50

Stats
age: 27 (when started BB)
weight: 125 lbs
height: 5'3"
3 kids, breastfed
starting size: 32/34C
non-smoker

My goal is the gain back the volume that I lost after having kids and breastfeeding. Before having kids I was a very full/overflowing 34D. I weighed 90 pounds and yet was an overflowing D cup/almost DD. All my fat was in the breast area (wish I could say that now). now I am backwards. now my fat is everywhere else. In my attempt to regain my loss, I started out using the bosom beauty breast pump machine system. With this I was able to gain some of the volume back and lost the sagging I had, they also noticibly closer together. Before BB I was a very B/small 32C. BB brought me to a full C. I am now using herbs along with the GY's massage program in hopes of getting back the rest of what I lost after having kids.

*************************************************
*************************************************
THIS FIRST POST WILL ACT AS A QUICK REFERENCE.
I WILL CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE STATS HERE.
*************************************************
*************************************************

approximately 2/2006 to 1/2007
Bossom Beauty machine, used once a day on a moderate setting for 60 minutes each evening before bed. once in a while I used twice a day. within several months I gained 1.5 cups. I continued to use even after this with very few breaks in an attempt to make sure it would be permanent and I had hoped for more growth. I started using way too strong of suction thinking it would break my plateau and finally cause more growth. I never gained any more growth but the initial growth stayed permanent. I gained 1.5 cups that stayed permanante even many months after completely stopped all suction.

*************************************************
Started GY's Program 5/16/2007
I do my massages much longer than is recommended. I am on level 3.

*************************************************
Added herbs 6/16/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek

I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.

*************************************************
6/23/2007:
I have switched off herbs to taking bo
1 bo 500mg morning/noon/night (total 1500mg daily)
using wild yam root as a mask on breast area before evening shower
still doing gy's massages

*************************************************
7/4/2007:
I have decided to quit the gy's massage. I feel it will be impossible for me to know whether the growth or soreness is coming from the bo or the massage. So I need to first establish the correct dose for me. I may or may not continue with gy's after I have figured out if bo or some herbs work well for me. Anyway here is my new routine:
AM
1 bo 500mg
1 saw palmetto 500mg (sometimes I omit this)
1 multivitamin
1 calcium
1 magnesium (helps prevent my migraines)
1 vitamin C 1000mg
PM
2 bo 500mg each
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower

*************************************************
Cannot take the dizziness and headaches anymore. Afraid it is the bo doing it to me. Quitting bo for now. Also quitting gy's just in case.
Going back on herbs 7/8/2007:
AM
2 Fenugreek
1 wild yam root
1 saw palmetto
PM
2 Fenugreek
1-2 benadryl (helps me sleep)
breast mask with wild yam and fenugreek before shower

I make my own capsules from certified organic powders and they are roughly about 500mg each.

*************************************************
7/23/2007 - 8/4/2007:
added to the above routine
Licorice Root (4)1800mg - (6)2700mg
Black Cohosh (2)1080mg
Papaya Enzyme (9)135mg
Raw Spleen Concentrate 10mg
Milk Thistle 235mg
Red Raspberry Leaves 132mg
Manganese 10mg
Quercetin 100mg
Black Current Oil 64mg
5-HTP 100mg
ADDED 2 more fenugreek

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Progress as of 6/29/2007:
1 1/2 inches above nipple from 34 to 36 = 2 inch increase
3 inches above nipple from 33.8 to 35.5 = 1.7 inch increase
at nipples from 35 to 36.8 = 1.8 inch increase
collar bone to nipple from 6.5 to 6.8 = .3 inch increase
chest below breast to center of nipple = no increase
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8/5/2007: day 1 (after 2 week break)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 35.8 (1/4" loss)
3 inches above nipple = 35.5 (same)
at nipples = 36.5 (1/4" loss)
collar bone to nipple = 6.8 (same)
chest below breast to center of nipple = 3.5 (same)
not bad for luteal phase




*************************************************

9/29/07
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36" (same)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.5" (half inch increase here)
at nipples = 37.75 (3/4" increase here)


10/25/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29" (this keeps going up and down)
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (up 1/4")
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 36.75" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (same)


11/20/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25" (back up)
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37" (up 1/4")
at nipples = 37.75 (back up)


12/16/07 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 29"
3 inches above nipple = 36.5"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"


1/15/08 (cycle day 5)
underbust = 28.5"
3 inches above nipple = 36.25"
1 1/2 inches above nipple = 37"
at nipples = 38"


2/20/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.5"


*************************************************

2/20/2008:
Started Wonderup


3/9/2008:
underbust: 28.5"
armpit level: 37"
above nipple: 37.5"
@ nipple: 38.25" (down 1/4 inch)


4/7/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5" (down half inch!)
above nipple: 37" (down half inch!)
@ nipple: 38" (down another 1/4"!)


5/6/2008:
underbust: 29"
armpit level: 36.5"
above nipple: 37"
@ nipple: 37.75" (down another 1/4"!!!)


7/7/2008:
Quit wonderup, not working for me
@ nipple went back to between 38" to 38.5"


*************************************************

Current Stats
age: 29
weight: 130 lbs
height: 5'3"
current size: 32E/34D


7/18/2008:
Starting individual herbs again


8/10/08
underbust: 28"
@ nipple: 38.5"
above nipple: 37.5"
armpit level: 36.5"


=============================================
ADDING SOME NOTES IN HERE FOR QUICK REFERENCE
=============================================
Tagamet 400-800mg in one dose. 800mg twice a day is the highest dose; Ant-androgen

MSM 4-6g/day; 10g/day highest dose; seems to be beneficial to take vit C to help it work; seems to help allergies

=============================================

switching from jasmin to orthotricyclene. also since I tend to be really lazy about taking pills during end and beginning of cycle, I am going to try out taking 1-2 week breaks during this time (which is basically what I've been doing, just unintended until now) and see how that goes.
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