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Its funny how what we're doing here is the opposite of what bodybuilders do on Reddit. They hate prolactin and aromatase lol.

Lol, they don't always hate aromatase. I've read before where some Body Builders use aromatase supps to increase their pectoral muscles and then slam on brakes with AI's (aromatase inhibitors) once they achieve their desired goal.

If FG has an aromatizing effect, do you t⅕hink that it would work synergistically with the Spiro or would they kind of cancel each other out in this respect. I mean a lot of this is conjecture and FG seems to have multiple effects. Wdy think

The main bioactive to FG us Diosgenin, much like found in wild yam. This is what promotes the breast grow Does having spiro (a minor aromatase agonist) help? maybe. I'm not a fan of spiro because of the worsening side effects I was having, namely spasms and electrolyte imbalances, other things too. Are you looking for an anti-androgen?

I've attached a post I kept mostly whole because of the content, hopefully it helps.

Perhaps you might have a gut flora imbalance?. Think about adding a probiotic like Bifidobacterium or Lactobacillus. Bloating could be a could be a sign you're not getting enough fiber, (soaked organic fenugreek seeds are high in fiber). As an added benefit Fenugreek has "diosgenin" which improves glucose metabolism and reduces inflammation. In my experience being on keto, I try to keep carbs @ 10-20 grams (no grains). As I've reported in other posts, ketones are involved in initiating the cAMP/CREB/PKA pathway, which is a pro-growth path. The question I would ask you is do you use ketone test strips to check ketone levrks.

Further more, in this study (below) serum estradiol levels increased 120% in the treatment group over the course of the study, from 131.22 pmol/L at baseline to 288.46 pmol/L at 90 days.
https://www.naturalmedicinejournal.com/journal/2017-04/fenugreek-standardized-extract-menopausal-symptoms


Diosgenin--a Growth Stimulator of Mammary Gland of Ovariectomized Mouse.
Abstract

Estrogenic action of diosgenin on the mammary epithelium of ovariectomized (OVX) mouse has been reported. Diosgenin when administered (sc) at the dose levels of 20 and 40 mg/kg body weight for a period of 15 days stimulated the growth of mammary epithelium. This was indicated by the increase in DNA content, increase in number of ducts and appearance of terminal endbuds. There was a significant increase in the mammary development scores in the presence of diosgenin. Concomitant treatment of estrogen and diosgenin showed augmentation of estrogenic effect of diosgenin especially at the higher dose level (40 mg/kg body wt). Diosgenin showed a lack of progesterogenic action as was apparent from the absence of alveolar development even in the presence of exogenous estrogen.

Wild Yam has diosgenin too.