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An article against Breast Pump!
May 10 2009 at 3:31 PM mrshuy (Login mrshuy)
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"In the 70's a breast enlargement pump came out on the market for the first time. Unfortunately, it didn't come with any instructions or guidelines, and many women actually damaged their breasts because they were using it too much, too long, and too roughly. The device itself was too powerful, and many women found it painful to use.
New, more modern breast enlargement pumps are on the market today, and they come with guidelines and programs. Many of the latest natural programs consist of an oral supplement, a topical product, and a breast enlargement pump. A newer natural breast pump model typically does not cause woman any pain or significant damage. Unfortunately, they are not much more effective than the first pump prototype.
A natural breast pump is supposed to work by helping balance hormone levels and increasing the production of tissue and collagen in the breast. Breast volume is largely composed of fat, and the more fat you have in your breasts, the larger they are. However, there is no possible way that a mechanical object such as a breast enlargement pump can stimulate your body to produce more fat and tissue. Hormone levels and tissue production are stimulated and regulated by internal chemical processes in the body – an outside mechanical force cannot cause this to happen.
Breast enlargement pumps are popular products because they appear to cause growth in the breasts. What they really do is temporarily increase blood flow to the area. If you apply suction to an area of your body, blood flow will increase and the area will become swollen, like your lips will be after a good session of kissing! However, once the source of suction, such as a natural breast pump is removed, the swelling and any resulting growth will only last for an hour or two. The change is certainly not permanent.
A breast enlargement pump does not offer permanent increase in size, and it also comes with the potential for injury. While today's pumps are more gentle than their earlier counterparts, the newer models can cause broken blood vessels. Breasts are fragile objects: connective tissue can tear and milk ducts can be damaged. A natural breast pump is not a good thing for the overall health of your breasts.
A final reason not to purchase a breast enlargement pump is because it is time-consuming to use. Since most have just one cup, you may need to spend an hour a day with a suction cup attached to one of your breasts in order to fulfill the recommended daily usage of about fifteen minutes per breast twice a day.
When you are looking for ways of naturally increasing your breasts, look for herbs and supplements that can help you achieve permanent results, not a breast enlargement pump that only offers temporary gain.
Carol Berman is a health researcher who has been studying natural remedies and supplements for over a dozen years, including natural breast enhancement products and applications.
I have no comment about the article as I myself havent try one (although I have a chance to see directly)
I want to hear users' opinion.
Many thanks.
Author Reply
elusia
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: An article against Breast Pump! May 11 2009, 7:51 AM
When I first read the article my thought was that since she's talking about breast PUMPS that PUMPS the breast (unlike TISSUE EXPANDERS such as Brava) she might have a point. Simply pumping breasts my not be as effective as tissue expansion, where you keep a constant pull at the breast to cause it to grow new tissue.
When searching for information about NBE on the internet it's tricky to know who is unbiased and who isn't - there are a lot of pages out there that wants to give the impression that they are neutral, when, in fact, they are anything but!
Thank goodness for forums like this one where we can share real experiences with people that are real and don't want to sell anything...
mrshuy
(Login mrshuy) Re: An article against Breast Pump! May 11 2009, 6:16 PM
Hi,
I totally agree with you, but I still wonder about that article if its conclusion is true in some extent or not?
I myself agree that breast is 1 of the most sensitive part of the body with a lot of blood vessel and tissue.
Because the suction device must suck quite hard in order to swell our boobs.
I am not sure about things that the article said but I myself think that the suction device may cause sagginess.
This is because the breast pump will make our breast swelling, it suckks so that the breast has more fluid and blood --->> breast looks bigger. at the same time, our breast skin must stretch out of course
However when we stop using it, those adding fluid and blood is gone. But the breast skin still stretch out.
So I think the breast pump is more suitable for ladies who breastfed. Young girls should not use it.
Best wishes.
waxingmoon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: An article against Breast Pump! May 13 2009, 5:19 PM
There is quite a lot of scientific evidence that tissue expansion causes the growth of tissue. It is used throughout modern medicine in various ways.
Brava and the other pumps used most frequently work via external tissue expansion. They do create the formation of new tissue - albeit very slowly. The cell by cell growth take a lot of time and hours of suction.
In order to achieve a modest growth of about 100cc, Brava takes 10 - 12 hours for at least 12 weeks. That's potentially over 1000 hours of time spent in the external tissue expansion.
Other suction methods have the potential of producing lasting results as long as that 1000 hours is achieved and there is not a very long break between sessions. In other words, 1 - 2 hours of suction a day would take over a year of daily use to come up to 1000 hours.
These methods are safe when used properly and they get the job done. There are very few cases of the skin stretching in a way that leads to stretch marks. It is true that it seem the women who have been pregnant before get the best results, but those who have never been pregnant before also get results.
Suction methods are far safer than herbal methods which alter a woman's hormone levels. Herbal NBE is not a sure thing in any case, nor is it always a lasting thing.
Just thought I would share this since I felt the article was misleading.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
elusia
(Login elusia)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: An article against Breast Pump! May 15 2009, 9:20 AM
Mrshuy,
I don't agree with you that young girls shouldn't use brava! On the contarary, it's my feeling that the younger the person, the better they can grow!
waxingmoon,
good to see you here! I'm so surprised, you're saying that herbs aren't really safe - I thought that you were into herbs!? I don't feel worried about using herbs wisely, I would much rather take a few pills everyday than changing my entire lifestyle around in order to squeeze in as many brava hours as possible (as I'm doing right now!). However, for those that don't want to use herbs, or for those that just can't figure out how to mix the herbs to get results (like I couldn't!) it's wonderful that there is brava! Some people will grow very easily, and some only need to start doing a little massage, eating some booby friendlý food, doing suction (BB or noogleberry) for 1-2 hours / day, or eat extremely low potency comercial pills and still grow! That is fantastic and desired, but some of us will not respond that easily and I think long term use of brava is our best bet! I also believe that keeping a positive attitude and visualizing ourselves as we would like to look (which is super easy for us brava useres, we don't even have to visualize it - it's right before our eyes when we take the domes off!!) is very beneficial in this exciting growth process.
Happy growing and may we get all the patience and persistence we need to achive our dreams ; ))
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: An article against Breast Pump! May 15 2009, 1:07 PM
Hi Elusia,
I merely said that suction was much safer than herbs - and that is true.
Herbs are basically drugs. They may be 'natural'. They may be very low in their effect, but they are drug-like in their action on the body.
Phytoestrogens come in various potency and some are more potent than our body's natural estrogen. Very few who use herbs know which herbs are high or low potency, or even the logic behind why they would use one herb versus another. Most experiment - which is hardly what I would consider the safest thing to do for health sake.
The side effects of some of the herbs are 'legendary'. Saw Palmetto can cause weight gain. Fenugreek can cause acne. PM interferes with normal menstruation.
And the list goes on... Are these awful things? - Maybe not, but they do show a change in the normal function of the body. They show a disturbance in hormonal balance.
Personally I have not had what would be the traditional herbal routine. I tried several and all of them interfered with my precious hormonal balance that I no longer consider herbal NBE safe for me. I know I am a canary in the coal mine as far as my body's sensitivity - but if it has wreaked havoc in my life then it could in others who may not understand what is happening.
We don't get them all the time, but occasionally some woman will post about her negative health consequences from using herbs. Typically in regards to elevating estrogen levels.
So - before I drone on and on... lol. I am not AGAINST herbal NBE. I do however caution people on monitoring their health and I do try to head off bad case scenarios in motion.
I have never read of any health issue caused by suction except one. Women who use too powerful of suction can and will damage breast tissue. Bruised breasts are not healthy. Aside from this though - suction has proved to be something that does not interfere with hormonal balance. That is why I say it is safer than herbal NBE. Its worst case effect would be localized, whereas the worst case herbal effect could devastate someone's entire health.
So anyway... another novel... lol.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
May 10 2009 at 3:31 PM mrshuy (Login mrshuy)
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"In the 70's a breast enlargement pump came out on the market for the first time. Unfortunately, it didn't come with any instructions or guidelines, and many women actually damaged their breasts because they were using it too much, too long, and too roughly. The device itself was too powerful, and many women found it painful to use.
New, more modern breast enlargement pumps are on the market today, and they come with guidelines and programs. Many of the latest natural programs consist of an oral supplement, a topical product, and a breast enlargement pump. A newer natural breast pump model typically does not cause woman any pain or significant damage. Unfortunately, they are not much more effective than the first pump prototype.
A natural breast pump is supposed to work by helping balance hormone levels and increasing the production of tissue and collagen in the breast. Breast volume is largely composed of fat, and the more fat you have in your breasts, the larger they are. However, there is no possible way that a mechanical object such as a breast enlargement pump can stimulate your body to produce more fat and tissue. Hormone levels and tissue production are stimulated and regulated by internal chemical processes in the body – an outside mechanical force cannot cause this to happen.
Breast enlargement pumps are popular products because they appear to cause growth in the breasts. What they really do is temporarily increase blood flow to the area. If you apply suction to an area of your body, blood flow will increase and the area will become swollen, like your lips will be after a good session of kissing! However, once the source of suction, such as a natural breast pump is removed, the swelling and any resulting growth will only last for an hour or two. The change is certainly not permanent.
A breast enlargement pump does not offer permanent increase in size, and it also comes with the potential for injury. While today's pumps are more gentle than their earlier counterparts, the newer models can cause broken blood vessels. Breasts are fragile objects: connective tissue can tear and milk ducts can be damaged. A natural breast pump is not a good thing for the overall health of your breasts.
A final reason not to purchase a breast enlargement pump is because it is time-consuming to use. Since most have just one cup, you may need to spend an hour a day with a suction cup attached to one of your breasts in order to fulfill the recommended daily usage of about fifteen minutes per breast twice a day.
When you are looking for ways of naturally increasing your breasts, look for herbs and supplements that can help you achieve permanent results, not a breast enlargement pump that only offers temporary gain.
Carol Berman is a health researcher who has been studying natural remedies and supplements for over a dozen years, including natural breast enhancement products and applications.
I have no comment about the article as I myself havent try one (although I have a chance to see directly)
I want to hear users' opinion.
Many thanks.
Author Reply
elusia
(Login elusia)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: An article against Breast Pump! May 11 2009, 7:51 AM
When I first read the article my thought was that since she's talking about breast PUMPS that PUMPS the breast (unlike TISSUE EXPANDERS such as Brava) she might have a point. Simply pumping breasts my not be as effective as tissue expansion, where you keep a constant pull at the breast to cause it to grow new tissue.
When searching for information about NBE on the internet it's tricky to know who is unbiased and who isn't - there are a lot of pages out there that wants to give the impression that they are neutral, when, in fact, they are anything but!
Thank goodness for forums like this one where we can share real experiences with people that are real and don't want to sell anything...
mrshuy
(Login mrshuy) Re: An article against Breast Pump! May 11 2009, 6:16 PM
Hi,
I totally agree with you, but I still wonder about that article if its conclusion is true in some extent or not?
I myself agree that breast is 1 of the most sensitive part of the body with a lot of blood vessel and tissue.
Because the suction device must suck quite hard in order to swell our boobs.
I am not sure about things that the article said but I myself think that the suction device may cause sagginess.
This is because the breast pump will make our breast swelling, it suckks so that the breast has more fluid and blood --->> breast looks bigger. at the same time, our breast skin must stretch out of course
However when we stop using it, those adding fluid and blood is gone. But the breast skin still stretch out.
So I think the breast pump is more suitable for ladies who breastfed. Young girls should not use it.
Best wishes.
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: An article against Breast Pump! May 13 2009, 5:19 PM
There is quite a lot of scientific evidence that tissue expansion causes the growth of tissue. It is used throughout modern medicine in various ways.
Brava and the other pumps used most frequently work via external tissue expansion. They do create the formation of new tissue - albeit very slowly. The cell by cell growth take a lot of time and hours of suction.
In order to achieve a modest growth of about 100cc, Brava takes 10 - 12 hours for at least 12 weeks. That's potentially over 1000 hours of time spent in the external tissue expansion.
Other suction methods have the potential of producing lasting results as long as that 1000 hours is achieved and there is not a very long break between sessions. In other words, 1 - 2 hours of suction a day would take over a year of daily use to come up to 1000 hours.
These methods are safe when used properly and they get the job done. There are very few cases of the skin stretching in a way that leads to stretch marks. It is true that it seem the women who have been pregnant before get the best results, but those who have never been pregnant before also get results.
Suction methods are far safer than herbal methods which alter a woman's hormone levels. Herbal NBE is not a sure thing in any case, nor is it always a lasting thing.
Just thought I would share this since I felt the article was misleading.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
elusia
(Login elusia)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: An article against Breast Pump! May 15 2009, 9:20 AM
Mrshuy,
I don't agree with you that young girls shouldn't use brava! On the contarary, it's my feeling that the younger the person, the better they can grow!
waxingmoon,
good to see you here! I'm so surprised, you're saying that herbs aren't really safe - I thought that you were into herbs!? I don't feel worried about using herbs wisely, I would much rather take a few pills everyday than changing my entire lifestyle around in order to squeeze in as many brava hours as possible (as I'm doing right now!). However, for those that don't want to use herbs, or for those that just can't figure out how to mix the herbs to get results (like I couldn't!) it's wonderful that there is brava! Some people will grow very easily, and some only need to start doing a little massage, eating some booby friendlý food, doing suction (BB or noogleberry) for 1-2 hours / day, or eat extremely low potency comercial pills and still grow! That is fantastic and desired, but some of us will not respond that easily and I think long term use of brava is our best bet! I also believe that keeping a positive attitude and visualizing ourselves as we would like to look (which is super easy for us brava useres, we don't even have to visualize it - it's right before our eyes when we take the domes off!!) is very beneficial in this exciting growth process.
Happy growing and may we get all the patience and persistence we need to achive our dreams ; ))
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: An article against Breast Pump! May 15 2009, 1:07 PM
Hi Elusia,
I merely said that suction was much safer than herbs - and that is true.
Herbs are basically drugs. They may be 'natural'. They may be very low in their effect, but they are drug-like in their action on the body.
Phytoestrogens come in various potency and some are more potent than our body's natural estrogen. Very few who use herbs know which herbs are high or low potency, or even the logic behind why they would use one herb versus another. Most experiment - which is hardly what I would consider the safest thing to do for health sake.
The side effects of some of the herbs are 'legendary'. Saw Palmetto can cause weight gain. Fenugreek can cause acne. PM interferes with normal menstruation.
And the list goes on... Are these awful things? - Maybe not, but they do show a change in the normal function of the body. They show a disturbance in hormonal balance.
Personally I have not had what would be the traditional herbal routine. I tried several and all of them interfered with my precious hormonal balance that I no longer consider herbal NBE safe for me. I know I am a canary in the coal mine as far as my body's sensitivity - but if it has wreaked havoc in my life then it could in others who may not understand what is happening.
We don't get them all the time, but occasionally some woman will post about her negative health consequences from using herbs. Typically in regards to elevating estrogen levels.
So - before I drone on and on... lol. I am not AGAINST herbal NBE. I do however caution people on monitoring their health and I do try to head off bad case scenarios in motion.
I have never read of any health issue caused by suction except one. Women who use too powerful of suction can and will damage breast tissue. Bruised breasts are not healthy. Aside from this though - suction has proved to be something that does not interfere with hormonal balance. That is why I say it is safer than herbal NBE. Its worst case effect would be localized, whereas the worst case herbal effect could devastate someone's entire health.
So anyway... another novel... lol.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon