[chrishoney]

Mirror Boy, stop trying to give advice like you know what the hell you are talking about, this is the 2nd time you have given bad advice. I know for a fact caffeine DOES inhibit breast growth when on an herbal NBE program, how do I know? From experience!!! When I did an herbal program and didn't know about the caffeine thing, I didn't grow. When I learned about it and tried again, low and behold I grew. It's really not hard to stop caffeine and it's actually BETTER for your health all around. I still to this day do not drink much caffeine since I stopped it years ago for NBE. Why? Because it's not a need. I still have coffee, decaf coffee. I still have sodas and tea, all decaf. I sometimes have caffeinated drinks but it's usually when I have no other choice, and it's usually only one. And I can tell you this, I feel alot better than when I use to drink alot of caffeine. Before stopping for NBE I would have 2 cups of coffee in the morning, then caffeinated teas and sodas throughout the day. There was always the bursts of energy then the crashes, and then the headaches when I didn't get enough caffeine that my body came accustomed to. So why be a slave to caffeine? Just so you won't get headaches? I love my life and how I feel alot more now than I did then. Saying you shouldn't give up something you enjoy just because it might help, that's like saying someone shouldn't stop smoking or drinking alcohol all the time, when those things can inhibit growth also and are bad for your health just like caffeine. So yea, I say it's best to cut the caffeine out as much as someone can. I stopped it completely and am glad I did.

I would like to see the evidence you are referencing that says caffeine in general and coffee in particular are bad for your health. I am a health professional, I do follow things like this, and EVERYTHING I have read in the past 5 to 10 years either fails to provide ANY evidence what-so-ever that caffeine is detrimental to health (even when the intent of the research was to prove just that hypothesis) or actually finds benefit from coffee and tea consumption (turns out BOTH coffee and tea are chock full of anti-oxidants.)

I won't dispute your assertion that caffeine prevented you from increasing your bust size since I don't know exactly what you were doing the first time and what you did subsequently. But I would be willing to take a wager that you changed other things in addition to ceasing caffeine consumption the second time around, and if that is true, in all honesty, you can't know for sure that caffeine was the culprit. If only all research were as easy as trying it yourself like that.

My personal experience as a coffee drinker who has developed very pronounced gynecomastia is that I got plenty of growth (taking primarily PM) while continuing my previous levels of coffee consumption. Drawing a comparison to smoking is pure fantasy as smoking (even second-hand smoke) has demonstrable deleterious effects on the pulmonary and cardiovascular systems, some of which can be fatal. This simply isn't the case with caffeine/coffee.