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brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day!
October 22 2007 at 8:59 AM dandelion (Login dandelion1)
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so i received my brava today from boticelli (really fast shipping -10 days and I'm in Australia). I put it on.....and I have no idea how much suction is too much!!! do i just keep sucking the air out with my breath until I cant suck out any more??????????
Second question : I keep losing pressure! The pressure lasts for like 2 minutes and then I feel it going down.........hmmmmm.......
I think I read somewhere on this forum that more pressure isnt necessarily good - all it does it wear out the domes quicker........ I dunno i thought I had this all figured out and then I receive it and I'm completely lost.... anyone?
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Louise
(no login) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 22 2007, 11:41 AM
Welcome to the Brava club!
What is your underbust measurement breathing out as much as possible (i.e. minimum measurement) and what bra size are you? What size domes have you got?
I'm assuming the airlock you've got has some sort of T shape tubing so you have one tube to each dome and then a third tube to suck? If that's the case (as it is with mine) I find it easiest to do all the skin prep stuff, and technically you should wait 5-10 mins for it to dry but I never bothered, then pick up the domes with all the tubing attached and put the airlock in your mouth. Looking in the mirror and leaning forwards slightly bring the domes from the armpit sides, press the outer edge to the skin and pull into the middle and press down - this is best done with right hand for right breast and left for left simultaneously. You should now be pressing both domes on with your hands so they're sealed, then suck the air out until it feels like it's pulling. Continue to suck and stop if it becomes uncomfortable or the rubber edge starts to turn in. If the rubber turns in, release a bit of air, stick you fingers underneath and flare the rubber outwards before sucking more. When you're just starting don't suck too hard or wear too long or you'll get a rash. You've sucked enough when you can lean forwards for a moment without them dropping off.
Now put the bra on (some people find it easier to put the bra on first then open slightly at the top, slip out of the shoulder straps and leave it round the waist, then it can just be pulled up).
First session, wear it for 3 hours then leave it off until the next day - you may see a small amount of swelling but the main thing is to build up wear slowly to avoid skin trouble, 3,5,7,9,11 hours per night then you can do full sessions.
It's normal to feel claustrophobic and like it's pressing on your chest. It's also normal as you wear for longer that you get more swelling, which means there is less room for air in the domes and the pulling force reduces so suck a bit more out to maintain tension. I noticed much bigger swelling after about 6 weeks so don't be discouraged if you're not huge straight away. If you get a hickey mark around the boobs you're sucking too much too soon, sucking more throughout the session should avoid this. It's normal for the boobs to go red, but it shouldn't hurt and don't think mine turn purple so don't overdo it!
Have a look at some old posts about opening the right dome outlet as for some reason everyone has noticed the right dome sucks less than the left. Also have a look for skin care tips. In general I would say don't wash / shower before putting them on unless your skin's really greasy (washing is good for the domes but not your skin) and then wash with water (no soap) when you take them off before applying whatever moisturiser you normally use. I followed advice and totally changed my skincare and it really made me itchy to went back to my normal stuff and it's been a lot better.
Good luck and let us know how you get on x
p.s. try to start a program page with initial measurements and hours each week and don't forget to take initial pics even if you keep them to yourself, I've just taken a new set and you can tell the difference!
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shaya
(no login) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 12:17 AM
Today is my 2nd day. I did it for 8 hr last night and I am felling hurt on the right under arm. Is anyone had this experienced???
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Louise
(no login) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 7:30 AM
I felt it hurting with domes on but only got a small patch in the cleavage area that's had too much pressure from the rim and that sometimes hurts with the domes off if I overdo it - only got that around the 12 week mark. You really should build up the wear time slowly, I din't and had to leave it off for almost a week because the skin got bery itchy and irritated.
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dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 8:42 AM
Thanks for the response Louise! yeah the first day I only did an hour but probably suched too hard and got a rash right away that has lasted till today.......I have taken pictures in the past, they are probably in my email somewhere.. as for my measurement I am currently barely an A, prob. AA but I wear A-34 when the bras are lined but i have absolutely no cleavage. I measure 32.5 across. I got the wide-large domes because from I read on this forum people tend to outgrow them at some point and need to buy more . I'm going to try and complete this program using only one set of domes.
I have one problem tho...I am going backpacking first week of december which means I'll only be able to complete 5 full weeks for now.....I do not want to interrupt my program but I don't know if I'll be able to wear this system when I'm backpacking - has anyone done this??? I will be staying in youth hostels (Im still a student lol!) , possibly some beach sleeping.... the great thing about the airlocks is that its completely silent. I'm only travelling with one other person so i was thinking maybe just waiting till that person falls asleep and then put them on? i dunno how I'll pull it off...........
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dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 8:43 AM
oh..and the brava arrived all right but the products it came with spilled all over the package..i have the dome cleanser and skin moisterizer but not the body wash (and it didnt even come with skin prep). I read on this forum some use baby shampoo to cleanse the domes? is this everyday (wouldnt this affect the tackiness?)
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Alcest
(Login Alcest) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 1:43 PM
That's really awesome you're going backpacking! I've always wanted to do that... and just sleep wherever.
My advice would be to NOT wear the brava during your trip. Not just because it's going to be a huge hassle and probably won't work that well anyway (plus it's an extra thing you'll have to carry.... and you won't be able to hide it) But also because I think it will spoil a bit of your trip. You are young and going on an adventure! Have fun, let yourself grow spiritually and mindfully, don't worry about your breasts! Enjoy your life... Brava will be there when you get home. =)
You will probably lose most of what you gain in those 5 weeks on the trip... However it will probably be easier to gain again when you start with the Brava again. Who knows, come December you'll probably be dying for a break from Brava anyway. (I'm only on week 2 and I'm dying for one already! Though I'm going to wear it until March/April ughh).
Anyway good luck on your decision, I hope you don't mind me putting in my 2 cents.
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Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 9:46 PM
I would possibly consider telling the other person then you can wear them while walking and get the most out of it. Are you going somewhere hot? Personally I don't do 'roughing it'! I wear my domes a lot around the house and when I went to visit hubby in Hong Kong he really didn't like them so I wore them days instead of nights while he was at work. If you cover up in loose clothes you just look fat / pregnant though I have the narrow large which may be slightly smaller. The narrow XL I have just look like a deformity!! Somewhere hot might play your skin up. The skin prep is supposedly a must, I think it's a good idea as it creates a protective barrier for your skin but I've never used any of the other stuff, just wash domes with baby shampoo and skin with water (no soap) and use normal moisturisers. I used to wash domes religiously but now I do a couple of hours in the large so I can walk around in front of my parents with a blanket round me (mum knows about Brava as she has snooped but at least covering it a bit avoids her asking!!) then switch to the XL so I only wash every 1-3 days, doesn't seem to make any difference. You'll be glad when the sticky comes off - so much less itchy but they don't seal quite so well, doesn't matter unless you move around a lot then it makes a big fart noise! If you don't want to take for hols then work up slowly to maybe 18-20 hour days and stick with that until you go - see Diana1978 Brava program, she did long hours for 7 weeks and got about 1-2 inches (1 cup). Otherwise you may just want to pack it up until you come back to avoid the wear on the domes. If you use a smartbox don't forget to take the batteries out if you're not going to use for a while, and make sure the domes are in the box with the lid shut so they don't accumulate fluff.
Megan
(no login) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 24 2007, 2:20 PM
Personally I would NOT take Brava backpacking - such as hassle and could ruin your trip. I would enjoy your trip and get back to Brava when you have the uninterrupted time. I would also plan on "starting over" when you get back as you may loose any gains. Since you're a new user, it wouldn't hurt to keep wearing your Brava now just so that you are very comfortable with the whole system when you return. Good luck!
October 22 2007 at 8:59 AM dandelion (Login dandelion1)
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so i received my brava today from boticelli (really fast shipping -10 days and I'm in Australia). I put it on.....and I have no idea how much suction is too much!!! do i just keep sucking the air out with my breath until I cant suck out any more??????????
Second question : I keep losing pressure! The pressure lasts for like 2 minutes and then I feel it going down.........hmmmmm.......
I think I read somewhere on this forum that more pressure isnt necessarily good - all it does it wear out the domes quicker........ I dunno i thought I had this all figured out and then I receive it and I'm completely lost.... anyone?
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Louise
(no login) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 22 2007, 11:41 AM
Welcome to the Brava club!
What is your underbust measurement breathing out as much as possible (i.e. minimum measurement) and what bra size are you? What size domes have you got?
I'm assuming the airlock you've got has some sort of T shape tubing so you have one tube to each dome and then a third tube to suck? If that's the case (as it is with mine) I find it easiest to do all the skin prep stuff, and technically you should wait 5-10 mins for it to dry but I never bothered, then pick up the domes with all the tubing attached and put the airlock in your mouth. Looking in the mirror and leaning forwards slightly bring the domes from the armpit sides, press the outer edge to the skin and pull into the middle and press down - this is best done with right hand for right breast and left for left simultaneously. You should now be pressing both domes on with your hands so they're sealed, then suck the air out until it feels like it's pulling. Continue to suck and stop if it becomes uncomfortable or the rubber edge starts to turn in. If the rubber turns in, release a bit of air, stick you fingers underneath and flare the rubber outwards before sucking more. When you're just starting don't suck too hard or wear too long or you'll get a rash. You've sucked enough when you can lean forwards for a moment without them dropping off.
Now put the bra on (some people find it easier to put the bra on first then open slightly at the top, slip out of the shoulder straps and leave it round the waist, then it can just be pulled up).
First session, wear it for 3 hours then leave it off until the next day - you may see a small amount of swelling but the main thing is to build up wear slowly to avoid skin trouble, 3,5,7,9,11 hours per night then you can do full sessions.
It's normal to feel claustrophobic and like it's pressing on your chest. It's also normal as you wear for longer that you get more swelling, which means there is less room for air in the domes and the pulling force reduces so suck a bit more out to maintain tension. I noticed much bigger swelling after about 6 weeks so don't be discouraged if you're not huge straight away. If you get a hickey mark around the boobs you're sucking too much too soon, sucking more throughout the session should avoid this. It's normal for the boobs to go red, but it shouldn't hurt and don't think mine turn purple so don't overdo it!
Have a look at some old posts about opening the right dome outlet as for some reason everyone has noticed the right dome sucks less than the left. Also have a look for skin care tips. In general I would say don't wash / shower before putting them on unless your skin's really greasy (washing is good for the domes but not your skin) and then wash with water (no soap) when you take them off before applying whatever moisturiser you normally use. I followed advice and totally changed my skincare and it really made me itchy to went back to my normal stuff and it's been a lot better.
Good luck and let us know how you get on x
p.s. try to start a program page with initial measurements and hours each week and don't forget to take initial pics even if you keep them to yourself, I've just taken a new set and you can tell the difference!
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shaya
(no login) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 12:17 AM
Today is my 2nd day. I did it for 8 hr last night and I am felling hurt on the right under arm. Is anyone had this experienced???
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Louise
(no login) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 7:30 AM
I felt it hurting with domes on but only got a small patch in the cleavage area that's had too much pressure from the rim and that sometimes hurts with the domes off if I overdo it - only got that around the 12 week mark. You really should build up the wear time slowly, I din't and had to leave it off for almost a week because the skin got bery itchy and irritated.
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dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 8:42 AM
Thanks for the response Louise! yeah the first day I only did an hour but probably suched too hard and got a rash right away that has lasted till today.......I have taken pictures in the past, they are probably in my email somewhere.. as for my measurement I am currently barely an A, prob. AA but I wear A-34 when the bras are lined but i have absolutely no cleavage. I measure 32.5 across. I got the wide-large domes because from I read on this forum people tend to outgrow them at some point and need to buy more . I'm going to try and complete this program using only one set of domes.
I have one problem tho...I am going backpacking first week of december which means I'll only be able to complete 5 full weeks for now.....I do not want to interrupt my program but I don't know if I'll be able to wear this system when I'm backpacking - has anyone done this??? I will be staying in youth hostels (Im still a student lol!) , possibly some beach sleeping.... the great thing about the airlocks is that its completely silent. I'm only travelling with one other person so i was thinking maybe just waiting till that person falls asleep and then put them on? i dunno how I'll pull it off...........
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dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 8:43 AM
oh..and the brava arrived all right but the products it came with spilled all over the package..i have the dome cleanser and skin moisterizer but not the body wash (and it didnt even come with skin prep). I read on this forum some use baby shampoo to cleanse the domes? is this everyday (wouldnt this affect the tackiness?)
Edit Message Delete Message
Alcest
(Login Alcest) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 1:43 PM
That's really awesome you're going backpacking! I've always wanted to do that... and just sleep wherever.
My advice would be to NOT wear the brava during your trip. Not just because it's going to be a huge hassle and probably won't work that well anyway (plus it's an extra thing you'll have to carry.... and you won't be able to hide it) But also because I think it will spoil a bit of your trip. You are young and going on an adventure! Have fun, let yourself grow spiritually and mindfully, don't worry about your breasts! Enjoy your life... Brava will be there when you get home. =)
You will probably lose most of what you gain in those 5 weeks on the trip... However it will probably be easier to gain again when you start with the Brava again. Who knows, come December you'll probably be dying for a break from Brava anyway. (I'm only on week 2 and I'm dying for one already! Though I'm going to wear it until March/April ughh).
Anyway good luck on your decision, I hope you don't mind me putting in my 2 cents.
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Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 23 2007, 9:46 PM
I would possibly consider telling the other person then you can wear them while walking and get the most out of it. Are you going somewhere hot? Personally I don't do 'roughing it'! I wear my domes a lot around the house and when I went to visit hubby in Hong Kong he really didn't like them so I wore them days instead of nights while he was at work. If you cover up in loose clothes you just look fat / pregnant though I have the narrow large which may be slightly smaller. The narrow XL I have just look like a deformity!! Somewhere hot might play your skin up. The skin prep is supposedly a must, I think it's a good idea as it creates a protective barrier for your skin but I've never used any of the other stuff, just wash domes with baby shampoo and skin with water (no soap) and use normal moisturisers. I used to wash domes religiously but now I do a couple of hours in the large so I can walk around in front of my parents with a blanket round me (mum knows about Brava as she has snooped but at least covering it a bit avoids her asking!!) then switch to the XL so I only wash every 1-3 days, doesn't seem to make any difference. You'll be glad when the sticky comes off - so much less itchy but they don't seal quite so well, doesn't matter unless you move around a lot then it makes a big fart noise! If you don't want to take for hols then work up slowly to maybe 18-20 hour days and stick with that until you go - see Diana1978 Brava program, she did long hours for 7 weeks and got about 1-2 inches (1 cup). Otherwise you may just want to pack it up until you come back to avoid the wear on the domes. If you use a smartbox don't forget to take the batteries out if you're not going to use for a while, and make sure the domes are in the box with the lid shut so they don't accumulate fluff.
Megan
(no login) Re: brava arrived in the mail!!!! 1rst day! October 24 2007, 2:20 PM
Personally I would NOT take Brava backpacking - such as hassle and could ruin your trip. I would enjoy your trip and get back to Brava when you have the uninterrupted time. I would also plan on "starting over" when you get back as you may loose any gains. Since you're a new user, it wouldn't hurt to keep wearing your Brava now just so that you are very comfortable with the whole system when you return. Good luck!