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getting a little discouraged
May 28 2008 at 10:11 PM kay (no login)
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hey everyone. i started using brava on feb 14th of this year. i have used it non-stop never missing a day. that makes it 15 weeks of continuous use. i total about 15 to 16 hours on monday through thursday and then on friday through sunday (gotta enjoy the weekend) i put in atleast 11 hours, average of 11 to 13. i think im starting to see results but they are very minimal. i started out not quiet a full 32A. now i am not sure cause all the bras i try on fit me differently. i was just wondering what kind of results people are having from this and how long it took them to get? i wanna grow up to a C cup. i planned on it taking me about 40 weeks. but now im wondering if its possible. does the brava bra really work that well? has anyone had good results from it? im worried that when i stop using it i will deswell to what i was before brava. did that happen to anyone? thanks for the help everyone! i truly do appreciate it!!!
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Alica
(no login) Re: getting a little discouraged May 29 2008, 7:01 AM
Yes it happened to me, unfortunately I had the de-swell experience. In December I completed 12 weeks of wearing Brava with an average of 12 hours of wear a night. I didn't miss any nights in the whole time, nor did I wear them for less than 10 hours in any one night. When I finished my wear time just before Christmas I thought my results were fantastic as I had gone from an original 34A to a full and firm 34B. However then I started to de-swell and sadly within 2 months of stopping I was right back to my original size of 34A.
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Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: getting a little discouraged June 10 2008, 7:56 PM
I didn't see this earlier - don't despair!
The more hours you put in the better and you sound like you're doing well. I averaged 15 hours per night for 30 weeks and went from loose 32B to decent 32C. I also lost 15 lbs during my Brava use so my underbust has decreased a lot so technically I'm 30D (which sounds big but isn't if you have a huge butt!).
SUCTION TIPS:
Put in the most hours for the most weeks you possibly can.
Airlock as hard as you can stand it even if you have to release the pressure and suck again throughout the session - maximum swelling does seem to give good results.
Try to eat protein (+fat if you're not fat already) and cut sugar and simple carbs.
Drink lots of water.
Avoid lots of cardio workout.
Stay positive! Suction does work - I'm amazed at mine, I'm about 1 cupsize bigger than I was when I was 30 lbs and 2 dress sizes bigger.
Hopefully in a few more months you'll catch up to me and then we can both try to catch up to Tori with her 32D!....Then we'll aim for Kieyah's 32E.....
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kay
(no login) hey! June 10 2008, 10:06 PM
thanks for the tips!!! ive been not wearing the bra and it def feels better. however since i changed to the xlg domes the sides of them cave in when the smart box takes air out of them. did anyone else have this prob?
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silv
(no login) domes June 11 2008, 6:52 PM
Louise, thanks for the support because Alica's story sounds very scary. It's horrible to lose everything after putting so much hard work. I've also decided to put at least 30 weeks and if possible for a year like Seri. I would love to get to a D. I'll aim for that!! I know that strong suction will give more swelling but it's painful sometimes. For me is not because of the pressure, it's the dome. When I use strong suction, the silicone ring becomes flat and the plastic part just digs into my ribs. I don't know if that happens to you when you use strong suction?
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kay
(no login) Re: getting a little discouraged June 11 2008, 8:08 PM
thats the same thing thats happening to me. my ribs are very sensitive now. im in the xlg domes and when the smart box takes out the air the domes cave in. gotta love it (grrr). my plan has always been to put in 40 weeks to a year into brava but now im at week 17 and im scared im injuring my ribs. so i def know what ur sayin.
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silv
(no login) Re: getting a little discouraged June 12 2008, 7:09 AM
kay, are you using narrow or wide domes. I used to use the narrow L but I always touch the side so Brava coach told me to use wide L (about 2 inches bigger than narrow L). My wide Ls cave in too. The reason for this is Brava is using the same kind of plastic plus same thickness for small and big domes. When dome is bigger, there's more air to be sucked out and creating more pressure within the domes and cause plastic to bend inward. So it's either plastic bend inward or Brava has to make plastic of bigger domes thicker (but then it'll be too bulky).
you said you're not seeing much? Don't forget that Brava said it'll take 12 weeks (not 10 weeks anymore) to gain 1/2 inch or cup so you'll need at least 24 weeks to see 1 cup increase. I think it's hard to tell the difference with 1/2 cup increase so I think you'll be able to see the difference in few more weeks. You're almost there so hang on and think positive!
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kay
(no login) hey silv June 12 2008, 7:08 PM
im in the narrow xlg domes. my chest messurement is only 27 inches under my breasts so i was too small for the wide. im really thinking about changing to the bb, or adding herbs to my routine. im just worried that the results i may see from them wont be perm. the pain in my ribs is becoming really bad and im scared that im hurting my body.
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livinonaprayer
(no login) Re: getting a little discouraged June 12 2008, 8:29 PM
I know how you feel. I was able to do a full 15 weeks with avg. of 13 hours per day and then I developed pain in my ribs. I also developed a swollen lump on my ribs underneath and a hard painful lump next to the sternum. The Brava coach told me that once you have gone that far, missing up to 6 days will not set you back and then you can continue if you are able. Unfortunately, I stopped for a week and was able to do a few more days but could only wear very sporadically over the 6 weeks after that but it only amounted to about 10 more days during that additional six weeks. It was just too painful even without the bra zipped up and I had to stop. I have been done for about two months now. I kept some growth. Not a huge difference but the bras are more filled out. Fortunately, the two painful lumps and swelling did go away. I was worried they would be permanent. It is hard on your body and some people just can't go as many weeks as they would like. I only used the sportbox and did not use any extra manual suction but it does take its toll over time. I had hoped for 20 - 30 weeks but couldn't make it. Anyway, to the average person they wouldn't be able to notice a difference (I had hoped for a full C), but I am less deflated and they do look better when I look at my before and after pictures. The great part is I can sleep on my stomach again and I'm not as obsessed with my boobs even though I miss the great swelling. Weather is too nice to start again now. I may or may not try again in the fall.
My advice to anyone considering Brava - wait until colder weather and enjoy your summer because even with great swelling that you would love to show off in little tops and a bathing suit, you might have rings around your boobs where the domes sit (I did for several hours afterward). I also didn't want to show them off at work and have others notice me deflate throughout the day so I hid them anyway. My husband did get to enjoy them though! If you are lucky enough that the rings fade and you can show them off, wear sunscreen or you'll have obvious marks around your boobs. Good luck.
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silv
(no login) BB June 12 2008, 9:56 PM
Kay, I know it's very hard especially you have put in almost 17 weeks but if it's too much pain then maybe it's better to take a few days break. You can also try to reduce the hours from 13 hours to maybe 10 for one day and 8 the next day until pain has subsided (hopefully it will). If you seriously are thinking about quitting Brava and switch to BB then be prepared that it's also very painful to your ribs (you'll need silicone sheeting)
I have tried herbs, massages, BB, and other suction device and so far Brava is not easy but at least I get to see swelling for few hours. I've used BB twice for 16 weeks 1st then 8 weeks the 2nd time and I was not too happy with it. I have about the same result as Louise has (.5 inch increase maybe). it definitely gives breasts nicer shape and fuller but not much of a difference in size . I Can get the same with massage and it's free too..lol..
As far as for herbs, you'll have to be careful as not everybody agrees with herbs. It messed up my hormones and made me mad about everything all the time. just make sure to research here more before you try herbs.
Hopefully pain will go away soon so you can keep continuing with Brava. Good Luck!
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kay
(Login kay84) silv June 13 2008, 3:44 PM
i was thinking about taking borage oil, wild yam, hydrolized ckn collagen, flax seed oil, fenugreek and saw palm. did u take any of those? what gave you the ill temper? i def dont want that to happen. i work with animals and i have to stay calm around them. thanks!
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Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: getting a little discouraged June 13 2008, 7:03 PM
I'd say wild yam is a waste of money and saw palmetto is specifically if you think you have high testosterone (also can cause weight gain / cellulite). Herbs do work for some people but not everyone and a lot of them can cause weight gain. I used Wonderup for about 8 months but the other medication I take interferes with my stomach so I may not digest it properly. I may well get back to taking herbs soon.
Really try to keep going with Brava, if you're having trouble maybe cut down to the minimum of 11 hours per day for a week but try to stick at it.
I think BB is good but 1 hour with BB is not equivalent to a whole night with Brava, similarly an 8 week cycle with BB (or in my case 16 weeks) is not going to be the same as 30 weeks with Brava. I want to get back to Brava in September and intend to do 1 hour BB every evening then put the Brava domes on, hopefully for 8-12 months. Then I'll possibly continue to use BB for 1-2 hours in the evening only. I found using it in the evening fitted in fine with other stuff I do but getting up an hour earlier for work every day was a real chore.
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silv
(no login) herbs June 13 2008, 10:49 PM
I took Fenugreek, wild yam and SP together so it could be any one of them that I'm not agreeing with. That's why I never want to try any other herbs again. It was so horrible cause it cost me my job.
I think taking flax seed oil is good. I'm not too familiar with borage oil and collagen so I can't give my opinion on it.
I think changing different domes can make you feel very uncomfortable at first. It'll get better after a few weeks. I switched domes 3 times already in 12 weeks and it was not easy at all. We're just human and we need time to get used to new things. Regards to you ribs pain, try rubbing or massaging softly with Bengay after you take out the domes in the morning, afternoon and before putting domes on. You can also place domes differently so it won't touch the sore spot that much. I hope this can help you get a few more weeks so at least you'll get to that 1 inch growth!!
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kay
(no login) thanks! June 16 2008, 6:27 PM
thank you so much for the advice everyone!! i def can use all i can get. i tryin to keep up with the brava system. i am starting to move the domes around and one night i didnt have any pain at all!! it was awesome! one question though... how much did you guys deswell? if i stop at 30 will i really go back down to what i was at 15 weeks, cause i wasnt really seeing much of any change then. thanks!
StacyEllen
(no login) Re: getting a little discouraged September 2 2008, 5:14 PM
I used for a total of 52 weeks (32 first time around and 20 weeks the following year) and I went from a small pathetic A to a full B, small C in a padded bra. It was the most difficult but also rewarding thing I have ever done. It changed my confidence completely. Hang in there. Take it one week at a time. I totally sympathize with some girls...I always thought that if Brava didn't work for you, it was because you weren't committed and were skipping nights, etc. But now I realize it just doesn't work for some girls which is so unfair after the pain, discomfort, sleepless nights and discipline you need for this system. It is only worth it for results, which I had.
May 28 2008 at 10:11 PM kay (no login)
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hey everyone. i started using brava on feb 14th of this year. i have used it non-stop never missing a day. that makes it 15 weeks of continuous use. i total about 15 to 16 hours on monday through thursday and then on friday through sunday (gotta enjoy the weekend) i put in atleast 11 hours, average of 11 to 13. i think im starting to see results but they are very minimal. i started out not quiet a full 32A. now i am not sure cause all the bras i try on fit me differently. i was just wondering what kind of results people are having from this and how long it took them to get? i wanna grow up to a C cup. i planned on it taking me about 40 weeks. but now im wondering if its possible. does the brava bra really work that well? has anyone had good results from it? im worried that when i stop using it i will deswell to what i was before brava. did that happen to anyone? thanks for the help everyone! i truly do appreciate it!!!
Author Reply
Alica
(no login) Re: getting a little discouraged May 29 2008, 7:01 AM
Yes it happened to me, unfortunately I had the de-swell experience. In December I completed 12 weeks of wearing Brava with an average of 12 hours of wear a night. I didn't miss any nights in the whole time, nor did I wear them for less than 10 hours in any one night. When I finished my wear time just before Christmas I thought my results were fantastic as I had gone from an original 34A to a full and firm 34B. However then I started to de-swell and sadly within 2 months of stopping I was right back to my original size of 34A.
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Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: getting a little discouraged June 10 2008, 7:56 PM
I didn't see this earlier - don't despair!
The more hours you put in the better and you sound like you're doing well. I averaged 15 hours per night for 30 weeks and went from loose 32B to decent 32C. I also lost 15 lbs during my Brava use so my underbust has decreased a lot so technically I'm 30D (which sounds big but isn't if you have a huge butt!).
SUCTION TIPS:
Put in the most hours for the most weeks you possibly can.
Airlock as hard as you can stand it even if you have to release the pressure and suck again throughout the session - maximum swelling does seem to give good results.
Try to eat protein (+fat if you're not fat already) and cut sugar and simple carbs.
Drink lots of water.
Avoid lots of cardio workout.
Stay positive! Suction does work - I'm amazed at mine, I'm about 1 cupsize bigger than I was when I was 30 lbs and 2 dress sizes bigger.
Hopefully in a few more months you'll catch up to me and then we can both try to catch up to Tori with her 32D!....Then we'll aim for Kieyah's 32E.....
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kay
(no login) hey! June 10 2008, 10:06 PM
thanks for the tips!!! ive been not wearing the bra and it def feels better. however since i changed to the xlg domes the sides of them cave in when the smart box takes air out of them. did anyone else have this prob?
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silv
(no login) domes June 11 2008, 6:52 PM
Louise, thanks for the support because Alica's story sounds very scary. It's horrible to lose everything after putting so much hard work. I've also decided to put at least 30 weeks and if possible for a year like Seri. I would love to get to a D. I'll aim for that!! I know that strong suction will give more swelling but it's painful sometimes. For me is not because of the pressure, it's the dome. When I use strong suction, the silicone ring becomes flat and the plastic part just digs into my ribs. I don't know if that happens to you when you use strong suction?
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kay
(no login) Re: getting a little discouraged June 11 2008, 8:08 PM
thats the same thing thats happening to me. my ribs are very sensitive now. im in the xlg domes and when the smart box takes out the air the domes cave in. gotta love it (grrr). my plan has always been to put in 40 weeks to a year into brava but now im at week 17 and im scared im injuring my ribs. so i def know what ur sayin.
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silv
(no login) Re: getting a little discouraged June 12 2008, 7:09 AM
kay, are you using narrow or wide domes. I used to use the narrow L but I always touch the side so Brava coach told me to use wide L (about 2 inches bigger than narrow L). My wide Ls cave in too. The reason for this is Brava is using the same kind of plastic plus same thickness for small and big domes. When dome is bigger, there's more air to be sucked out and creating more pressure within the domes and cause plastic to bend inward. So it's either plastic bend inward or Brava has to make plastic of bigger domes thicker (but then it'll be too bulky).
you said you're not seeing much? Don't forget that Brava said it'll take 12 weeks (not 10 weeks anymore) to gain 1/2 inch or cup so you'll need at least 24 weeks to see 1 cup increase. I think it's hard to tell the difference with 1/2 cup increase so I think you'll be able to see the difference in few more weeks. You're almost there so hang on and think positive!
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kay
(no login) hey silv June 12 2008, 7:08 PM
im in the narrow xlg domes. my chest messurement is only 27 inches under my breasts so i was too small for the wide. im really thinking about changing to the bb, or adding herbs to my routine. im just worried that the results i may see from them wont be perm. the pain in my ribs is becoming really bad and im scared that im hurting my body.
Edit Message Delete Message
livinonaprayer
(no login) Re: getting a little discouraged June 12 2008, 8:29 PM
I know how you feel. I was able to do a full 15 weeks with avg. of 13 hours per day and then I developed pain in my ribs. I also developed a swollen lump on my ribs underneath and a hard painful lump next to the sternum. The Brava coach told me that once you have gone that far, missing up to 6 days will not set you back and then you can continue if you are able. Unfortunately, I stopped for a week and was able to do a few more days but could only wear very sporadically over the 6 weeks after that but it only amounted to about 10 more days during that additional six weeks. It was just too painful even without the bra zipped up and I had to stop. I have been done for about two months now. I kept some growth. Not a huge difference but the bras are more filled out. Fortunately, the two painful lumps and swelling did go away. I was worried they would be permanent. It is hard on your body and some people just can't go as many weeks as they would like. I only used the sportbox and did not use any extra manual suction but it does take its toll over time. I had hoped for 20 - 30 weeks but couldn't make it. Anyway, to the average person they wouldn't be able to notice a difference (I had hoped for a full C), but I am less deflated and they do look better when I look at my before and after pictures. The great part is I can sleep on my stomach again and I'm not as obsessed with my boobs even though I miss the great swelling. Weather is too nice to start again now. I may or may not try again in the fall.
My advice to anyone considering Brava - wait until colder weather and enjoy your summer because even with great swelling that you would love to show off in little tops and a bathing suit, you might have rings around your boobs where the domes sit (I did for several hours afterward). I also didn't want to show them off at work and have others notice me deflate throughout the day so I hid them anyway. My husband did get to enjoy them though! If you are lucky enough that the rings fade and you can show them off, wear sunscreen or you'll have obvious marks around your boobs. Good luck.
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silv
(no login) BB June 12 2008, 9:56 PM
Kay, I know it's very hard especially you have put in almost 17 weeks but if it's too much pain then maybe it's better to take a few days break. You can also try to reduce the hours from 13 hours to maybe 10 for one day and 8 the next day until pain has subsided (hopefully it will). If you seriously are thinking about quitting Brava and switch to BB then be prepared that it's also very painful to your ribs (you'll need silicone sheeting)
I have tried herbs, massages, BB, and other suction device and so far Brava is not easy but at least I get to see swelling for few hours. I've used BB twice for 16 weeks 1st then 8 weeks the 2nd time and I was not too happy with it. I have about the same result as Louise has (.5 inch increase maybe). it definitely gives breasts nicer shape and fuller but not much of a difference in size . I Can get the same with massage and it's free too..lol..
As far as for herbs, you'll have to be careful as not everybody agrees with herbs. It messed up my hormones and made me mad about everything all the time. just make sure to research here more before you try herbs.
Hopefully pain will go away soon so you can keep continuing with Brava. Good Luck!
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kay
(Login kay84) silv June 13 2008, 3:44 PM
i was thinking about taking borage oil, wild yam, hydrolized ckn collagen, flax seed oil, fenugreek and saw palm. did u take any of those? what gave you the ill temper? i def dont want that to happen. i work with animals and i have to stay calm around them. thanks!
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Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: getting a little discouraged June 13 2008, 7:03 PM
I'd say wild yam is a waste of money and saw palmetto is specifically if you think you have high testosterone (also can cause weight gain / cellulite). Herbs do work for some people but not everyone and a lot of them can cause weight gain. I used Wonderup for about 8 months but the other medication I take interferes with my stomach so I may not digest it properly. I may well get back to taking herbs soon.
Really try to keep going with Brava, if you're having trouble maybe cut down to the minimum of 11 hours per day for a week but try to stick at it.
I think BB is good but 1 hour with BB is not equivalent to a whole night with Brava, similarly an 8 week cycle with BB (or in my case 16 weeks) is not going to be the same as 30 weeks with Brava. I want to get back to Brava in September and intend to do 1 hour BB every evening then put the Brava domes on, hopefully for 8-12 months. Then I'll possibly continue to use BB for 1-2 hours in the evening only. I found using it in the evening fitted in fine with other stuff I do but getting up an hour earlier for work every day was a real chore.
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silv
(no login) herbs June 13 2008, 10:49 PM
I took Fenugreek, wild yam and SP together so it could be any one of them that I'm not agreeing with. That's why I never want to try any other herbs again. It was so horrible cause it cost me my job.
I think taking flax seed oil is good. I'm not too familiar with borage oil and collagen so I can't give my opinion on it.
I think changing different domes can make you feel very uncomfortable at first. It'll get better after a few weeks. I switched domes 3 times already in 12 weeks and it was not easy at all. We're just human and we need time to get used to new things. Regards to you ribs pain, try rubbing or massaging softly with Bengay after you take out the domes in the morning, afternoon and before putting domes on. You can also place domes differently so it won't touch the sore spot that much. I hope this can help you get a few more weeks so at least you'll get to that 1 inch growth!!
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kay
(no login) thanks! June 16 2008, 6:27 PM
thank you so much for the advice everyone!! i def can use all i can get. i tryin to keep up with the brava system. i am starting to move the domes around and one night i didnt have any pain at all!! it was awesome! one question though... how much did you guys deswell? if i stop at 30 will i really go back down to what i was at 15 weeks, cause i wasnt really seeing much of any change then. thanks!
StacyEllen
(no login) Re: getting a little discouraged September 2 2008, 5:14 PM
I used for a total of 52 weeks (32 first time around and 20 weeks the following year) and I went from a small pathetic A to a full B, small C in a padded bra. It was the most difficult but also rewarding thing I have ever done. It changed my confidence completely. Hang in there. Take it one week at a time. I totally sympathize with some girls...I always thought that if Brava didn't work for you, it was because you weren't committed and were skipping nights, etc. But now I realize it just doesn't work for some girls which is so unfair after the pain, discomfort, sleepless nights and discipline you need for this system. It is only worth it for results, which I had.