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Dangers of BO???
January 18 2007 at 6:21 AM sarah (no login)
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Hi, I've heard somewhere that BO could lead to many dangerous circumstances like infertility, etc. Is this true?
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Jessica
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? January 18 2007, 7:59 AM
I think it is true, because it increases the body's estrogen load and unlike herbs there's no way of checking the action. Unchecked estrogen load can lead to many adverse effects, including cancer riask and as you mentioned, infertility. There was a major cancer scare about bovine ovary in about 1999 and since then hardly anyone sells it.
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Katrina
(Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? January 18 2007, 8:02 PM
The only bovine ovary you can buy now is from Argentina, which from is extracted from hormone-free, steroid-free treated cows, which greatly decreases you chance of getting cancer. Keep in mind that in America all of our meats we eat are loaded with these two hormone disuptors and they are also causing cancer.
As far as infertility, I have never heard of that with bovine ovary. In fact, Jules from bountiful breast told me many women who couldn't have children actually got pregnant after starting the bovine ovary! I thought it increased progesterone and estrogen in the body, since it stimulates that ovaries and the ovaries produce more than estrogen. It only makes since to me that this product would cause an increase in both, but I may be wrong.
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Katrina
(Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? January 18 2007, 8:04 PM
I need to check over my spelling more, dustruptors, not disuptors!
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Katrina
(Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? January 18 2007, 8:05 PM
disruptors!!! oops again!
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sarah
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? January 19 2007, 4:01 AM
lol! It's alright we all have those moments. I just might try the BO now...
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? January 19 2007, 4:13 AM
Katrina, that's good to know that Fawn disagrees with the infertility thing. I don't think there are any concrete studies showing the safety or dangers, I searched for days and found very little information.
Maybe the only danger is that it uffects yuor speling, and I cun live with tat.
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Peaches
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? January 19 2007, 10:45 AM
That is exactly the point, there is no information available. That's why so many companies are reluctant to sell it, because theere is no information available and they therefore don't want to take the risk. By the way, the problem with estrogen is that too much estrogen can cause infertility. Therefore because BO increases estrogen uncontrollably it is commonly believed that infertility is a likely result.
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Katrina
(Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? January 19 2007, 8:56 PM
I am confused. Tt looks to Bovine Ovary, since it stimulates the ovaries, would cause an increase in both estrogen and progesterone because the ovaries produce both of these.
That's funny Sissy...lol.. I culd liv wit dat too
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Lisa
(Login lilmama40) Re: Dangers of BO??? January 31 2007, 11:09 PM
BB website explains it's progesterone based, not estrogen based.
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Peaches
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? February 1 2007, 7:53 AM
I don't think the BB website can be relied on. I don't think they know for sure what bovine ovary actually does. It doesn't seem to have ever been studied, so I think BB are taking a guess more than anything. People have looked hard but there is no real information available anywhere. Because of the lack of information and study, any explanations about the effects of BB have to be regarded as guesswork.
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Melissa
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? February 1 2007, 1:36 PM
I have been taking BB pills for 9 months, before I started taking them I took my bottle of pills and my money back guarntee papers to my doctor for her to sign and look at it my pills. She said that they were safe but she couldn't guarntee they would make my breasts grow. I have had just about 2 inches of gain since taking only them, L-Tyrosine, protein and sometimes DIM Plus and of course massage. My growth has slowed in the past couple months so since reading your messages here and talking to Wonderbride I have added in some more herbs to jumpstart my growth again. Anyways, I just wanted to share with you that my doctor had told me that the pills were safe, also I have had no weight gain over the past 9 months, I hope that this helps.
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Hi Melissa! February 2 2007, 2:06 AM
Thanks for sharing your experience and what the doc told you. I could handle two inches in 9 months. I'm only 2.5 months into my BB, and have increased fullness but only 1/2 inch growth so far. Good luck with the changes and hope they jump start your growth again. -- Sissy
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Judith
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? February 2 2007, 6:55 AM
Unfortunately the general consensus of doctors is that bovine ovary is definitely not safe.
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? February 3 2007, 12:21 AM
I bet that 95%+ of doctors don't even know what it is. I'm interested you have information? It's very hard to find much information on this subject.
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Anonymous
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? February 6 2007, 12:56 PM
What about mad cows disease (I hope that's the right term in English)? If you ingest infected animals, it takes 15 years before you get sick. So these effects can not be predicted right now
Cuchilli
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? February 6 2007, 8:10 PM
The sellers of bovine ovary say that there is no reason to think the cattle their product comes from are infected with mad cow disease.
However, if you ask for a guarantee that they aren't, they say they don't have information that would justify providing such a guarantee.
emmie
(Login emmiedee) where it comes from February 7 2007, 4:46 PM
for instance, new zealand doesnt have any reported cases. my pills come from there.
i understand and appreciate the concern; its been discussed. some people take the risk, some dont. i do...
January 18 2007 at 6:21 AM sarah (no login)
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Hi, I've heard somewhere that BO could lead to many dangerous circumstances like infertility, etc. Is this true?
Author Reply
Jessica
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? January 18 2007, 7:59 AM
I think it is true, because it increases the body's estrogen load and unlike herbs there's no way of checking the action. Unchecked estrogen load can lead to many adverse effects, including cancer riask and as you mentioned, infertility. There was a major cancer scare about bovine ovary in about 1999 and since then hardly anyone sells it.
Edit Message Delete Message
Katrina
(Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? January 18 2007, 8:02 PM
The only bovine ovary you can buy now is from Argentina, which from is extracted from hormone-free, steroid-free treated cows, which greatly decreases you chance of getting cancer. Keep in mind that in America all of our meats we eat are loaded with these two hormone disuptors and they are also causing cancer.
As far as infertility, I have never heard of that with bovine ovary. In fact, Jules from bountiful breast told me many women who couldn't have children actually got pregnant after starting the bovine ovary! I thought it increased progesterone and estrogen in the body, since it stimulates that ovaries and the ovaries produce more than estrogen. It only makes since to me that this product would cause an increase in both, but I may be wrong.
Edit Message Delete Message
Katrina
(Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? January 18 2007, 8:04 PM
I need to check over my spelling more, dustruptors, not disuptors!
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Katrina
(Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? January 18 2007, 8:05 PM
disruptors!!! oops again!
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sarah
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? January 19 2007, 4:01 AM
lol! It's alright we all have those moments. I just might try the BO now...
Edit Message Delete Message
Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? January 19 2007, 4:13 AM
Katrina, that's good to know that Fawn disagrees with the infertility thing. I don't think there are any concrete studies showing the safety or dangers, I searched for days and found very little information.
Maybe the only danger is that it uffects yuor speling, and I cun live with tat.
Edit Message Delete Message
Peaches
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? January 19 2007, 10:45 AM
That is exactly the point, there is no information available. That's why so many companies are reluctant to sell it, because theere is no information available and they therefore don't want to take the risk. By the way, the problem with estrogen is that too much estrogen can cause infertility. Therefore because BO increases estrogen uncontrollably it is commonly believed that infertility is a likely result.
Edit Message Delete Message
Katrina
(Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? January 19 2007, 8:56 PM
I am confused. Tt looks to Bovine Ovary, since it stimulates the ovaries, would cause an increase in both estrogen and progesterone because the ovaries produce both of these.
That's funny Sissy...lol.. I culd liv wit dat too
Edit Message Delete Message
Lisa
(Login lilmama40) Re: Dangers of BO??? January 31 2007, 11:09 PM
BB website explains it's progesterone based, not estrogen based.
Edit Message Delete Message
Peaches
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? February 1 2007, 7:53 AM
I don't think the BB website can be relied on. I don't think they know for sure what bovine ovary actually does. It doesn't seem to have ever been studied, so I think BB are taking a guess more than anything. People have looked hard but there is no real information available anywhere. Because of the lack of information and study, any explanations about the effects of BB have to be regarded as guesswork.
Edit Message Delete Message
Melissa
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? February 1 2007, 1:36 PM
I have been taking BB pills for 9 months, before I started taking them I took my bottle of pills and my money back guarntee papers to my doctor for her to sign and look at it my pills. She said that they were safe but she couldn't guarntee they would make my breasts grow. I have had just about 2 inches of gain since taking only them, L-Tyrosine, protein and sometimes DIM Plus and of course massage. My growth has slowed in the past couple months so since reading your messages here and talking to Wonderbride I have added in some more herbs to jumpstart my growth again. Anyways, I just wanted to share with you that my doctor had told me that the pills were safe, also I have had no weight gain over the past 9 months, I hope that this helps.
Edit Message Delete Message
Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Hi Melissa! February 2 2007, 2:06 AM
Thanks for sharing your experience and what the doc told you. I could handle two inches in 9 months. I'm only 2.5 months into my BB, and have increased fullness but only 1/2 inch growth so far. Good luck with the changes and hope they jump start your growth again. -- Sissy
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Judith
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? February 2 2007, 6:55 AM
Unfortunately the general consensus of doctors is that bovine ovary is definitely not safe.
Edit Message Delete Message
Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Dangers of BO??? February 3 2007, 12:21 AM
I bet that 95%+ of doctors don't even know what it is. I'm interested you have information? It's very hard to find much information on this subject.
Edit Message Delete Message
Anonymous
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? February 6 2007, 12:56 PM
What about mad cows disease (I hope that's the right term in English)? If you ingest infected animals, it takes 15 years before you get sick. So these effects can not be predicted right now
Cuchilli
(no login) Re: Dangers of BO??? February 6 2007, 8:10 PM
The sellers of bovine ovary say that there is no reason to think the cattle their product comes from are infected with mad cow disease.
However, if you ask for a guarantee that they aren't, they say they don't have information that would justify providing such a guarantee.
emmie
(Login emmiedee) where it comes from February 7 2007, 4:46 PM
for instance, new zealand doesnt have any reported cases. my pills come from there.
i understand and appreciate the concern; its been discussed. some people take the risk, some dont. i do...