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Thinking about BB, advise please
April 4 2007 at 2:29 AM Kate (Login HorseBackRider12)
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Hey,
I've been researching breast enhancement for a few weeks now, after originally looking at Brava, I stumbled upon Bountiful Breasts and I have many questions for the ladies currently taking BB. Just to let you know about myself, I'm only 16, and wouldn't consider taking any pills until I was at least 17 or 18. I've always had small, saggy breasts and I'm not happy with them at all. BB's website says that anyone can take the pills and they are especially effective on teens, but that makes me wary to be honest. So for everyone using BB (or who just have advise):
1) Is it completely safe with no side effects (nothing crazy like not being able to produce your own hormones because your body has been dependent on outside hormones, or growing a third boob
or anything)
2) What is all this talk about being infertile because of BB?
3) This doesn't promote the growth of cancer or anything harmfull, right?
4) Can someone explain to me what people are talking about with the body temperature issue? Does anyone know what causes it?
Everything seems very cushy on the website, of corse. Is there any information avaliable about the long term effects of this sort of hormone replacement?
I'm researching like crazy because I wouldn't want to do anything to jeprodize my future health.
Well, i hope I get some answers, thanks!
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Coral
(Login coral.reef) Re: Thinking about BB, advise please April 4 2007, 8:48 AM
Unfortunately there is little point in 'researching like crazy' because there is no real information or documentation available on bovine ovary. I know this because I am a medical student and I have looked. So that's basically the answer to your questions, that there is no information available. I even asked a bovine ovary supplier these kind of questions and I was told by them that they 'didn't have this kind of information'. Anyway I was interested in it because a friend of mine tried it and it certainly did work for her. She gained an inch on her bust measurement quite quickly, although after that it just stopped working for some reason. But she also had a problem in that her period became agonising when she was taking the bovine ovary, but don't think this always happens because everyone reacts differently to what they take.
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Thinking about BB, advise please April 4 2007, 11:29 AM
Nobody could answer all your questions with any certainty or scientific evidence, even if they were about the large amounts and combinations of herbal programs. However regarding BB...
1) Everyone is different, but the majority report no major side effects relating to BB. Also no third Boob or utters have been reported either, but the product has only been around for like 10 years, so who knows.
2) I believe that the talk of infertility was just something that someone started or had a theory about. It has been said that women have become pregnant while using BB, but you'd have to go through all the old threads on this forum to find that post.
3) Nobody has reported cancer due to BB, and those of us taking it hope that it does not cause disease, along with everything else we ingest and breath daily.
4) Temperature is important on any NBE program, but more important with BB/BO. To work most effectively, temp should be atleast 98.2. This has to do with thyroid regularity, which is important to grow. However you can grow with a lower temp, but it may take longer and results would not be as good.
BB is supposed to be improving customer service, contact them by phone or do the live chat, the people you will be talking to are not just paid reps, they actually use the product and will try to answer your questions honestly.
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Sun
(Login ThaliaSun) Re: Thinking about BB, advise please April 4 2007, 6:00 PM
Kate,
For what it's worth, I'm 38 and just now realizing I've probably had hormonal imbalance issues and a thyroid issue my entire life. If I'd had the presence of mind to think through symptoms and possible interventions at your age-- I might not be struggling with this now. And might already have bigger breasts. :-)
Whatever you decide proceed slowly and be very in touch with your body-- pay attention to all the reactions or lack of reactions, and then investigate those new pieces of information to inform what you do next. You'll learn more about yourself on many levels.
I hope you have a parent or other trusted adult to consult with on all this too.
Best wishes,
~Sun
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Kate
(Login HorseBackRider12) Re: Thinking about BB, advise please April 4 2007, 9:42 PM
Thanks everyone! Also, does anyone know the difference between BB and generic BO? I thought one was estrogen and the other was progesteren, is that right?
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Thinking about BB, advise please April 4 2007, 11:22 PM
I must have been half asleep when I read this earlier, I missed the part about your age Kate. So you are just getting all your information ready to know what you want to to do in a couple of years? That sounds pretty responsible to me, and by your post, you seem mature for your age.
Sun is correct, you really should discuss it with a trusted adult. If you have an OB/GYN, that would be a good place to start if you can't talk to a parent. Although sadly, it's possible that your doctor would not know anything about BO or NBE in general.
There are alot of unanswered questions about BO and high doses of herbs, nobody knows what long term effects are. As to your question regarding estrogen and progesterone, if you read the past post on this forum, you will see that that subject has been debated here often. We just don't know and there is no information out there.
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) Kate April 7 2007, 4:14 AM
My breast were always saggy when they were small too. I have thyroid issues as the above lady mentioned. You may want to check into whether your thyroid is properly working.
Other than that, I have found that topical creams are working wonders for firmness. Since you are young, I would not recommend anything internally but boobie friendly foods, and maybe a topical cream that is herbal like Wonderup. I don't know if the PM creams are ok for teens. I know pm internally is not ok for teens.
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Kate
(Login HorseBackRider12) MyJourney April 8 2007, 3:03 AM
Thanks for the help!
What is the PM cream? I read a lot about it in this fourm, but what is the brand, is it herbs or somthing else? All anyone ever puts is PM cream and I couldn't find anything on google on it. And also, have you used the Wonderup? If you did, did it work well for you?
Thanks so much!
anonymous
(no login) PM April 8 2007, 9:10 PM
PM is short for Pueraria Mirifica. If you google on that, you'll get results. The main brands are StHerb, Mirifem and the one from pueraria.uk. There is also a soap called Blossom-S. More info on PM - go and look in the pueraria mirifica forum. You will find it on the main page.
There are many girls here who have used Wonderup. If you look in the herbal forum you'll find it's been used by many here and mostly they have had good success. It's probably the best herbal option.
April 4 2007 at 2:29 AM Kate (Login HorseBackRider12)
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Hey,
I've been researching breast enhancement for a few weeks now, after originally looking at Brava, I stumbled upon Bountiful Breasts and I have many questions for the ladies currently taking BB. Just to let you know about myself, I'm only 16, and wouldn't consider taking any pills until I was at least 17 or 18. I've always had small, saggy breasts and I'm not happy with them at all. BB's website says that anyone can take the pills and they are especially effective on teens, but that makes me wary to be honest. So for everyone using BB (or who just have advise):
1) Is it completely safe with no side effects (nothing crazy like not being able to produce your own hormones because your body has been dependent on outside hormones, or growing a third boob
or anything)2) What is all this talk about being infertile because of BB?
3) This doesn't promote the growth of cancer or anything harmfull, right?
4) Can someone explain to me what people are talking about with the body temperature issue? Does anyone know what causes it?
Everything seems very cushy on the website, of corse. Is there any information avaliable about the long term effects of this sort of hormone replacement?
I'm researching like crazy because I wouldn't want to do anything to jeprodize my future health.
Well, i hope I get some answers, thanks!
Author Reply
Coral
(Login coral.reef) Re: Thinking about BB, advise please April 4 2007, 8:48 AM
Unfortunately there is little point in 'researching like crazy' because there is no real information or documentation available on bovine ovary. I know this because I am a medical student and I have looked. So that's basically the answer to your questions, that there is no information available. I even asked a bovine ovary supplier these kind of questions and I was told by them that they 'didn't have this kind of information'. Anyway I was interested in it because a friend of mine tried it and it certainly did work for her. She gained an inch on her bust measurement quite quickly, although after that it just stopped working for some reason. But she also had a problem in that her period became agonising when she was taking the bovine ovary, but don't think this always happens because everyone reacts differently to what they take.
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Thinking about BB, advise please April 4 2007, 11:29 AM
Nobody could answer all your questions with any certainty or scientific evidence, even if they were about the large amounts and combinations of herbal programs. However regarding BB...
1) Everyone is different, but the majority report no major side effects relating to BB. Also no third Boob or utters have been reported either, but the product has only been around for like 10 years, so who knows.
2) I believe that the talk of infertility was just something that someone started or had a theory about. It has been said that women have become pregnant while using BB, but you'd have to go through all the old threads on this forum to find that post.
3) Nobody has reported cancer due to BB, and those of us taking it hope that it does not cause disease, along with everything else we ingest and breath daily.
4) Temperature is important on any NBE program, but more important with BB/BO. To work most effectively, temp should be atleast 98.2. This has to do with thyroid regularity, which is important to grow. However you can grow with a lower temp, but it may take longer and results would not be as good.
BB is supposed to be improving customer service, contact them by phone or do the live chat, the people you will be talking to are not just paid reps, they actually use the product and will try to answer your questions honestly.
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Sun
(Login ThaliaSun) Re: Thinking about BB, advise please April 4 2007, 6:00 PM
Kate,
For what it's worth, I'm 38 and just now realizing I've probably had hormonal imbalance issues and a thyroid issue my entire life. If I'd had the presence of mind to think through symptoms and possible interventions at your age-- I might not be struggling with this now. And might already have bigger breasts. :-)
Whatever you decide proceed slowly and be very in touch with your body-- pay attention to all the reactions or lack of reactions, and then investigate those new pieces of information to inform what you do next. You'll learn more about yourself on many levels.
I hope you have a parent or other trusted adult to consult with on all this too.
Best wishes,
~Sun
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Kate
(Login HorseBackRider12) Re: Thinking about BB, advise please April 4 2007, 9:42 PM
Thanks everyone! Also, does anyone know the difference between BB and generic BO? I thought one was estrogen and the other was progesteren, is that right?
Edit Message Delete Message
Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Thinking about BB, advise please April 4 2007, 11:22 PM
I must have been half asleep when I read this earlier, I missed the part about your age Kate. So you are just getting all your information ready to know what you want to to do in a couple of years? That sounds pretty responsible to me, and by your post, you seem mature for your age.
Sun is correct, you really should discuss it with a trusted adult. If you have an OB/GYN, that would be a good place to start if you can't talk to a parent. Although sadly, it's possible that your doctor would not know anything about BO or NBE in general.
There are alot of unanswered questions about BO and high doses of herbs, nobody knows what long term effects are. As to your question regarding estrogen and progesterone, if you read the past post on this forum, you will see that that subject has been debated here often. We just don't know and there is no information out there.
Edit Message Delete Message
Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) Kate April 7 2007, 4:14 AM
My breast were always saggy when they were small too. I have thyroid issues as the above lady mentioned. You may want to check into whether your thyroid is properly working.
Other than that, I have found that topical creams are working wonders for firmness. Since you are young, I would not recommend anything internally but boobie friendly foods, and maybe a topical cream that is herbal like Wonderup. I don't know if the PM creams are ok for teens. I know pm internally is not ok for teens.
Edit Message Delete Message
Kate
(Login HorseBackRider12) MyJourney April 8 2007, 3:03 AM
Thanks for the help!
What is the PM cream? I read a lot about it in this fourm, but what is the brand, is it herbs or somthing else? All anyone ever puts is PM cream and I couldn't find anything on google on it. And also, have you used the Wonderup? If you did, did it work well for you?Thanks so much!
anonymous
(no login) PM April 8 2007, 9:10 PM
PM is short for Pueraria Mirifica. If you google on that, you'll get results. The main brands are StHerb, Mirifem and the one from pueraria.uk. There is also a soap called Blossom-S. More info on PM - go and look in the pueraria mirifica forum. You will find it on the main page.
There are many girls here who have used Wonderup. If you look in the herbal forum you'll find it's been used by many here and mostly they have had good success. It's probably the best herbal option.