[gogirlanime]

Hi Gogirlanime,

In hops, 8-prenylnaringenin is a phyto-estrogen, and xanthohumol is an anti-androgen.

Spearmint is an anti-androgen, yes.

Goat's rue increases prolactin, for swelling. It's not a phyto-estrogen. I have great swelling on 4,500 mg.

Flax seed oil is an aromatase inhibitor. I don't know if EPO is.

Fenugreek is not a phyto-estrogen. It contains a very small amount of isoflavones, which are phyto-estrogens, but the amount is so small that the effect in NBE is negligible. The diosgenin in fenugreek increases progesterone and prolactin.

Maca is a weight gainer, so I'd drop it for now. Try fenugreek: because of its antidiabetic effect, it's a great waist slimmer

Hi Isabelle!! I love you girl you are the sweetest thank you for helping me!

Please and thank you (if you can)

If you do not mind Isabelle if you have the time could you help me answer some of these questions. Once I have become just as knowledgable as you I will "spread the wealth" and help take the load off of answering questions for new members around here.

I am first trying to understand exactly what each herb is and what it does. I am finding that the information here on BN is confusing. I want to know about all the popular herbs for NBE and understand what compounds, phytonutrients, phytochemicals, and phyto-hormones they have in them so I can give the correct advice and set up myself a plan with the most knowledge under my back so that I can more than likely succeed the first time I try NBE. I am trying to figure out what role everything has in NBE and why you need to take this herb with this herb or why certain combinations work.

If you don't mind would you please correct me on these or tell me what they are

The basics
So I'm not sure exactly what causes breast growth is it phyto-progestins or phyto-estrogens? I hear that phyto-estrogens help store fat in your breasts and that phyto-progestins are what enable breast tissue growth. What role does prolactin have in NBE and what is it? Do you need more progesterone or estrogen for NBE. What ratios of progesterone/estrogen/androgens do you need to achieve NBE. Like do you need 2 parts estrogen 1 part progesterone and 1 part androgen? (I know I am simplifying it but I think you get what I'm asking)

Herbs (terms also at the bottom below "Herbs")

Pueraria Mirifica
This is a phytoestrogen only correct?

Flaxseed oil
Is an aromatase inhibitor, what does that mean exactly? Is flaxseed a phytoestrogen? Is "aromatase inhibitor" another way to say "phytoestrogen"? Or is an aromatase inhibitor mean it blocks the body from making progesterone? Is it an anti-estrogen?

Fenugreek
Fenugreek is not technically a phytoestrogen and is not used as a main source of phytoestrogens during NBE because it has so little correct? It helps increase progesterone in the body and prolactin right?

Fennel
Fennel is a phyto-progestin (plant progesterone) correct? It helps increase the progesterone in your body. It also helps increase prolactin. Is it an anti-estrogen?

Evening Primrose Oil
Evening Primrose Oil is a phyto-progestin correct? Or what is it / what does it do?

Hops
Hops contains phytoestrogens and anti-androgens as you said, correct? It is an anti-androgen that digests into the body to create an estrogen correct?

Wild Yam
This is a phyto-progestin and prolactin correct?

Spearmint
Spearmint is an anti-androgen only correct?

Saw Palmetto
Saw Palmetto is an anti-androgen only correct?

Goat's Rue
Goat's Rue increases prolactin and this is all it has / does correct? Or does it increase progesterone like Fenugreek?

Maca
Maca is an adaptogen that helps the body produce DHEA and that is all it does correct?

Borage oil
Borage oil is a phyto-progestin correct? Is that all it is / does?

Dandelion root
Dandelion root is a phytoestrogen correct? I hear that it helps the liver process hormones. Is this all it does or what is it?

Red Clover
Red clover is a phytoestrogen and a phyto-progestin correct? Or what is it and what does it do?

Black Cohosh
Black Cohosh is a phytoestrogen corrrect or what is it and what does it do?

Dong Quai
Dong Quai is a phyto-progestin or what is it and what does it do?

Blessed Thistle
I don't know anything about this, please explain

Terms (please correct me of anything that isn't right)

You need to take a phytoestrogen, a phyto-progestin, an anti-androgen, something to help with aromatase, and a prolactin-increaser, and usually it is suggested that you use an herb/supplement that increases circulation. Are those all the categories of nutrients you need for NBE? Does everyone need all of them? When might you not need all of them. Is there more to this statement?

Phyto-estrogens
These are "plant estrogens" that mimic / act / are used like human estrogen in the body. Why are these important or not important in NBE and what do they do during NBE?

Phyto-progestins
This is "plant progesterone" that mimics / acts / is used like human progesterone in the body. Why are these important or not important in NBE and what do they do during NBE?

Aromatase
What does this mean exactly? Why is this important or not important in NBE and what does it do during NBE?

Androgens
What is this exactly (I have an idea) and what does it do? Why are these important or not important in NBE and what do they do during NBE?

DHEA
Exactly how does it work? Why is this important or not important in NBE and what does it do during NBE?

Prolactin
What is it and what does it do / how does it work Why is this important or not important in NBE and what does it do during NBE?

Adaptogen
What is this and how does it work?