[jul]

THANK YOU, MELISSA! AND THANK YOU ISABELLE! This information is positively golden, I needed to read this!

I at least now know what to expect once I finish the second cycle of PM. I actually have a slightly extended cycle of 30 days so I'm hoping this doesn't change too much once my PM regimen gets going. I'm actually really glad to read that Isabelle recommends what I felt I should be doing.

I will be buying a thermometer and paying as much attention as I can to my body to keep things as stable as possible. Ooh Chiyomilk, give me strength!

Oh Amy,

This is the toughest question on the board. Nobody has reported more than two regular natural cycles on PM so far. Men take PM continuously. So did MydreamisGcup on the depo provera shot, and idreamofD still does on the Nuvaring. Run.Rabbit's program thread is a nice example of a cycle that works well with a bcp.

Women with a natural cycle on PM can keep it going for two months or so. Then their cycles become like the cycles described in the publication I linked at the bottom of this post:
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=8419&pid=41574#pid41574
They are either very long, 36-42 days, or very short, 17-21 days. One woman can have both long and short ones, and sometimes what happens after day 17 is more like spotting. According to that publication, the cause is a second ovulation, which occurs at the end of the period.

Because PM suppresses ovulation, it's important that you either start PM immediately after the end of your period, or you are already taking it. For this reason, I have always recommended to start PM at 1 capsule on day one of the period. After the period, increase to 2, and if you can take it without headaches, increase to 3 on day 9.

Stopping or decreasing PM triggers ovulation. Therefore, I think it's important to stop, or go down to 1 capsule, on day 12. Ovulation normally follows on day 14. Some women feel it, some women use the thermometer. After ovulation, it's OK to take two capsules up to and including day 24, as long as you ensure that you are not becoming estrogen dominant. Some women do this by taking a phyto-progestin, like fennel tea or turmeric, others take fenugreek or wild yam to increase natural progesterone.

What you describe, starting PM after the period for 15 days, is Bella's schedule, named after a vendor of PM. BelaBrasil and aimingford did this successfully for two months, but then their cycles became irregular too.

From day 25 to the start of the period, you have to go by the symptoms. If you get a headache, you are estrogen dominant, and if you have bad PMS, you lack progesterone. In both cases, continue a low dose of fenugreek, or wild yam, or fennel or turmeric. Chaste tree berry (vitex agnus castus) may work too. Don't start PM again before your period, unless you feel really progesterone dominant (clear thinking, easily irritated).

In a long cycle, the days from day 25 to the start of the period are not funny. You feel like you are pregnant, have PMS, are worried, want a pregnancy test, and are estrogen dominant (headache, depressed, foggy thinking, low libido), all at the same time. Most women do a cycle without PM after that experience.

Hello isabelle,

I would like to know if i understand correctly how to do it for my cycle.
I have a cycle of 34 days or do.... and my period last like 3 days

So day 1 to 3: 1 pill
Day 4-8: 2 pills
Day 9-11: 3 pills or until i ovulate
after that i dont know if i should decrease cause im not sure about he ovulation date(im doing BBT, so i will go with that) but let say i want to shorthen my cycle.....at 28 day

After day 12 to let say 28... im confuse about how many pills to take.

I also would like to know if it ok to do it like that even if on the bottle it said to take 1-2 pills for 15 days?

I read somewhere that to have result the amount should be like 800-1000 mgs a day, is it true?

Is it for everyone or it depends of your weight and height?


Im on PM since Nov, 2011 and didnt stop....so i got my period this week and decide to stop(not necessary cleansing with herbs) and wait a month before started again... so i give me time to figure out a new program coz got no result and im a bit fustrated.


So can you help me answering my questions?
Sorry for my english, u know im french so, if you dont understand my questions we can communicated in french

thank you so much i really appriciate your helps

jul