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I don't know if anyone is following this thread all that closely, but some of you might be interested to hear how he came up with the new hops based program he just recommended. He told me on his other board that he didn't really come up with it at all. It's based on an existing product with a few tweaks, like his greenbush program. Apparently there used to be a product called Herbal Breast Actives (HBA on the old forums). Mominator had fantastic results on HBA, but eventually stalled and switched to greenbush. She didn't lose her growth. She just stalled. Unfortunately, you won't be able to find much info on her and her program any more because she deleted it all. She chose to leave up some of her general tip threads, and they are still very well worth reading. Wahaika's recommendations are based on educated guesses about the amount of herbs in HBA. I haven't been able to find an official list of the ingredients that were in that product but, according to all the info I could find on the old board, the milligrams were never listed. He also removed red clover, which HBA contained (I think), because RC contains genistein, and he's against genistein for BE. Herbal Breast Actives doesn't exist anymore, and it has nothing to do with "Breast Actives", which is a totally unrelated company. If you try to google "herbal breast actives", one of the first things that comes up is Triactol, which also has nothing to do with Herbal Breast Actives.

BTW, I'm not sure what he meant to say about hops in his last post above. I think he just doesn't want me to combine it with his regular recommended cycling program. I've decided to try the HBA plan only if cycling doesn't work. He knows I'm very tempted to include hops, but he's not the only one who thinks anti-androgens might be a necessary addition to a hops program (even if he doesn't seem to know why).