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Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working?
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Hops is converted into xanthohumol and 8-pn when it's digested. Xanthohumol is a testosterone blocker (not a DHT blocker like most other antiandrogens). 8-pn is a very strong phytoestrogen. In order for hops to be digested into 8-pn it has to be taken with food, but people vary a LOT in their ability to "produce" 8-pn. Isabelle recommends Menohop as a way to get around this issue. It includes the enzyme needed for conversion into 8-pn. Menohop also contains soy isoflavones, which makes dosing a little trickier. You could try asking Isabelle for more details about how to take it.

You might want to watch out with the PC. Most people who've had success taking PC either continuously or monthly had some kind of existing hormonal condition. I'm not aware of any "normal", healthy, young women who had success using PC in either of those ways. You could try using Ginie's method instead. Her program was very successful. She used PC only when she thought she needed it based on the results of BBT charting. It's a method of keeping track of your hormone levels indirectly by charting your daily temperature. To be honest, I'm not sure how she used BBT to determine when to take PC. I do know she only took it every 2 to 3 months. She also applied it according to the package directions, rather than using it only on her breasts as a "boobie batter". If you wanted to be on the safe side, you could try having your friend use it every 3 months, and alternate the site of application rather than applying it only to her breasts.

Is your friend using anything topical other than PC? She might want to try using a fenugreek batter and/or PM cream during the first half of her cycle. She could try combining Greenbush FG extract and St.Herb PM cream, and maybe some DMSO for better absorption. Be careful because DMSO should only be used in small amounts. A little dab should be enough.

I really hope this helps. In fact, most of the things I just mentioned are changes I've been thinking about making to my own program. I didn't respond to that combination of herbs either, and I've been researching how to make it work. If your friend decides to try any of these things, please let me know if they worked Big Grin I'm dying to find out. I wish I could tell you that I already tried all this stuff and now have G cups :p


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Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by Doll - 21-06-2012, 21:19
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by Brunella - 22-06-2012, 17:55
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by durty - 24-06-2012, 13:48
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by Doll - 24-06-2012, 22:40
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by durty - 25-06-2012, 13:30
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by Doll - 25-06-2012, 16:16
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by mochaccino - 25-06-2012, 19:40
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by Doll - 25-06-2012, 20:49
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by mochaccino - 25-06-2012, 19:53
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by mochaccino - 26-06-2012, 00:25
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by Doll - 26-06-2012, 16:01
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by durty - 26-06-2012, 16:58
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by Isabelle - 26-06-2012, 18:02
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by Doll - 29-06-2012, 14:04
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by Isabelle - 26-06-2012, 18:06
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by hannabannana - 11-05-2013, 15:17
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by Lycaryth - 11-05-2013, 23:47
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by hannabannana - 12-05-2013, 16:31
RE: Can anyone suggest a program for someone when FG/SP/Hops isn't working? - by ab101bab - 15-05-2013, 16:35



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