13-11-2012, 04:13
RE: WY. surferjoe posted a very nice analysis of what WY is likely doing for some people and why it might still be useful. I wish Wahaika would have explained why he was espousing it instead of just constantly pushing it all the time.
Sooo... It might still be helpful.
If you're allergic to RC you could try PM or hops. Both are stronger phyto-estrogens anyways. And PM is the strongest, being the most similar to estradiol at the molecular level.
(13-11-2012, 03:55)surferjoe2007 Wrote: I dunno, I only found the word "unregulate" in the study, as in production of X in response to a hormone was unregulated. As far as I know it's the same as saying that it makes you more sensitive to your own hormones. Yes steroidal saponins do tend to combine very well with phytoestrogens. Pueraria mirifica + fenugreek tends to work very well, for example. Whereas pueraria mirifica + a real phytoestrogen tends to create competition that lessens the effect of the PM.
It's a local effect in a single organ not the whole loop which spans multiple organs. So again I take that as meaning the same as increased sensitivity.
The steroidal saponin herbs that I know of are fenugreek, wild yam, goat's rue and shatavari. For all of those except wild yam I have read about increased testosterone in men, and yet increased estrogen, progesterone and prolactin in women. I have read about increased sensitivity to insulin in fenugreek and goat's rue. And I wouldn't be surprised if all of these apply to all 4; I just haven't read it.
Sooo... It might still be helpful.
If you're allergic to RC you could try PM or hops. Both are stronger phyto-estrogens anyways. And PM is the strongest, being the most similar to estradiol at the molecular level.