16-11-2012, 19:41
No problem! Would love to help in any way possible!
She was taking the same thing as me: saw palmetto, fenugreek, and red clover/hops. Of these, only saw palmetto is NOT estrogenic (I think it may have SLIGHTLY estrogenic effects, but not enough to be noted). Even though saw palmetto prevents Testosterone from converting into DHT, thus allowing for more Testosterone to be converted into estrogen, it is still recommended for women with thyroid problems, it seems. Fenugreek is estrogenic, but won't allow your body to raise its estrogen levels beyond its own limits.
I'll post her new plan to give you a better idea of what might work. These herbs have given her positive response so far, even in the short time she's tried them, so she's going to continue with them to see how they interact with the PC.
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I'm not sure the exact dosing of everything, I think it's just what it says on the bottles. I don't think any of the Gro-Bust herbs are very estrogenic, if at all, and I think that's why that one definitely works for her.
Depending on where you live, PC may only be available by prescription only, and sometimes can't be shipped into some countries. So maybe look into your area and what's available. We buy everything at Vitamin Shoppe, as they've got great prices and a great selection of female herbs and such (the GNC by us hardly has anything!)
I'd say honestly, PC and SP are your best bet to start out with, then go from there and see how your body feels about it.
Good luck, I know this is all so confusing. I'm still confused by it myself even.
She was taking the same thing as me: saw palmetto, fenugreek, and red clover/hops. Of these, only saw palmetto is NOT estrogenic (I think it may have SLIGHTLY estrogenic effects, but not enough to be noted). Even though saw palmetto prevents Testosterone from converting into DHT, thus allowing for more Testosterone to be converted into estrogen, it is still recommended for women with thyroid problems, it seems. Fenugreek is estrogenic, but won't allow your body to raise its estrogen levels beyond its own limits.
I'll post her new plan to give you a better idea of what might work. These herbs have given her positive response so far, even in the short time she's tried them, so she's going to continue with them to see how they interact with the PC.
I'm not sure the exact dosing of everything, I think it's just what it says on the bottles. I don't think any of the Gro-Bust herbs are very estrogenic, if at all, and I think that's why that one definitely works for her.
Depending on where you live, PC may only be available by prescription only, and sometimes can't be shipped into some countries. So maybe look into your area and what's available. We buy everything at Vitamin Shoppe, as they've got great prices and a great selection of female herbs and such (the GNC by us hardly has anything!)
I'd say honestly, PC and SP are your best bet to start out with, then go from there and see how your body feels about it.
Good luck, I know this is all so confusing. I'm still confused by it myself even.