I fail to understand what you've asked that I didn't answer? Anyways... to each their own I'm sure. Propylene glycol is only toxic in extremely high doses. There's plenty of "natural" "holistic" remedies that are the same... or worse. Licorice is toxic at seriously low doses, and yet that's completely natural.
I fail to comprehend how you're feeling any animosity from my posts... I'm certainly not feeling any as I'm typing for it to be able to poison my words.
(Personally, I'd prefer propylene glycol over alcohol... alcohol's liver toxicity is quite readily noted and extremely high. Besides, I just hate alcohol.)
The new super molecule is temporary btw... it only exists WHILE the mixture is being heated. It's not stable at anywhere near room temp and returns to being estrols and propylene glycol. What we end up with is a TON of the estrols we want, some propylene glycol, and some residual bits of the rest of the tubers that didn't get strained out fully. EDIT: And that site, at least, even has MSDS sheets and chemical analysis sheets posted... you're free to look for yourself and see that I'm not making stuff up here. At storage temperatures, the mixture reverts and you get a LOT of estrols packed into a tiny tiny amount of glycol.
It would be nice if there was a way to get the estrols extracted without resorting to anything toxic, alcohol or glycol, but so far no one has discovered any means to do so... and alcohol doesn't extract it nearly as well, so you end up with a LOT of alcohol per estrol and don't really eliminate all that much of the junk.
But as I said earlier... to each their own. I see fewer potential problems from liquid PM extracts than you seem to. And the liquid extract is well suited to my cycling plan. It'd take an AWFUL lot of capsules or powder to come close to my peak dose, or even my modal dose. And I have no real option for my "1 drop" dose with capsules. I could replicate it with loose powder, but it'd take too much math for my lazy brain.
It also remains true that the liquid extracts ARE the cheapest way... it's not my fault you've got your reservations about it that are in no way linked to price.
Anyways, sorry you seem to find my posts to have some sort of "animosity", but to me, it feels like you're the one who has animosity towards my attempt at sharing things I've found. Sorry you don't like liquid extracts of PM. They are still the least expensive.
I fail to comprehend how you're feeling any animosity from my posts... I'm certainly not feeling any as I'm typing for it to be able to poison my words.
(Personally, I'd prefer propylene glycol over alcohol... alcohol's liver toxicity is quite readily noted and extremely high. Besides, I just hate alcohol.)
The new super molecule is temporary btw... it only exists WHILE the mixture is being heated. It's not stable at anywhere near room temp and returns to being estrols and propylene glycol. What we end up with is a TON of the estrols we want, some propylene glycol, and some residual bits of the rest of the tubers that didn't get strained out fully. EDIT: And that site, at least, even has MSDS sheets and chemical analysis sheets posted... you're free to look for yourself and see that I'm not making stuff up here. At storage temperatures, the mixture reverts and you get a LOT of estrols packed into a tiny tiny amount of glycol.
It would be nice if there was a way to get the estrols extracted without resorting to anything toxic, alcohol or glycol, but so far no one has discovered any means to do so... and alcohol doesn't extract it nearly as well, so you end up with a LOT of alcohol per estrol and don't really eliminate all that much of the junk.
But as I said earlier... to each their own. I see fewer potential problems from liquid PM extracts than you seem to. And the liquid extract is well suited to my cycling plan. It'd take an AWFUL lot of capsules or powder to come close to my peak dose, or even my modal dose. And I have no real option for my "1 drop" dose with capsules. I could replicate it with loose powder, but it'd take too much math for my lazy brain.
It also remains true that the liquid extracts ARE the cheapest way... it's not my fault you've got your reservations about it that are in no way linked to price.
Anyways, sorry you seem to find my posts to have some sort of "animosity", but to me, it feels like you're the one who has animosity towards my attempt at sharing things I've found. Sorry you don't like liquid extracts of PM. They are still the least expensive.