06-01-2013, 17:25
From first post: " Also, what are some effective herbs besides maca (thanks Doll!) and Ginko? I have read that PM is a phytoestrogen... I think. So what properties would my supplementing herbs need?" Thanks to dolls PM thread I have an answer, but couldn't help pointing it out 
Condescension is a much better word than animosity; but like I said, I think it's unintentional.
Glycol: any of a class of compound belonging to the alcohol family. Propylene glycol IS an alcohol...only a synthetic one. The added potency comes from the alchemical process of heating the liquid. It's the same with THC is undergoes a molecular change when heated, sounds like what PM does. I wonder if a fatty based substance like flax oil would work better? I know THC extracts better that way. I will have to do some more research though.
It is not that I have a problem with liquid supplements. My first reply to you stated that I agreed with your statement. It is with the substance that is used for this particular method of extraction. I personally would rather take a lower dose, or research a better method. Ther IS one out there, just like there is a better option to breast implants but is this common knowledge in our country? All your herbal research hasn't shown you exactly how much of our preconceived medical notions are false? Why is any of what I'm saying so hard to swallow?
Google propylene glycol, the entire first page is sites telling you why you should not use it. Like you said, this is apples and oranges. You are saying you like it because it is potent. I am not disputing that, only saying it is extremely bad for you. This is not my opinion, but a scientific fact. Just because the FDA said something was OK, does not mean it is. Example: fluoride was used in Nazi Germany to keep concentration camp prisoners docile by calcifying the pituitary gland. Yet, fluoride is added to our tap water and given to us by dentists.
To each his own yes, but please realize there's an entire aspect to this whole NBE thing you are not concerned with, or maybe just haven't considered.
Condescension is a much better word than animosity; but like I said, I think it's unintentional.
Glycol: any of a class of compound belonging to the alcohol family. Propylene glycol IS an alcohol...only a synthetic one. The added potency comes from the alchemical process of heating the liquid. It's the same with THC is undergoes a molecular change when heated, sounds like what PM does. I wonder if a fatty based substance like flax oil would work better? I know THC extracts better that way. I will have to do some more research though.
It is not that I have a problem with liquid supplements. My first reply to you stated that I agreed with your statement. It is with the substance that is used for this particular method of extraction. I personally would rather take a lower dose, or research a better method. Ther IS one out there, just like there is a better option to breast implants but is this common knowledge in our country? All your herbal research hasn't shown you exactly how much of our preconceived medical notions are false? Why is any of what I'm saying so hard to swallow?
Google propylene glycol, the entire first page is sites telling you why you should not use it. Like you said, this is apples and oranges. You are saying you like it because it is potent. I am not disputing that, only saying it is extremely bad for you. This is not my opinion, but a scientific fact. Just because the FDA said something was OK, does not mean it is. Example: fluoride was used in Nazi Germany to keep concentration camp prisoners docile by calcifying the pituitary gland. Yet, fluoride is added to our tap water and given to us by dentists.
To each his own yes, but please realize there's an entire aspect to this whole NBE thing you are not concerned with, or maybe just haven't considered.