[LookingForward2NBE]

Ooyyy veee...

@Abi:
My dad has no interest in extracting phytoestrogen lol. I'm a big girl, I will continue to research on my own, tis'n't hard if you're determined. And it often helps to use another country's search engine. Also, I don't have the same problem with grain alcohol as you do. But thanks! x) You too!


@LookingForward2NBE:
I will have to do my own research on whether that is true. I cannot find the ingredients for ainterol anywhere. And our country doesn't require all ingredients to be labeled. Only way to know for sure is make it yourself, or at least order from a site you have much experience with. But if that is true of propylene glycol, it is true of the others. Propylene is the only one I have a major issue with. I am buying my own bulk herbs to blend, I do not need anything besides the powdered root, that's precisely what I'm after. I am not buying a brand, I am buying from the distributor that sells to brands. Every powered form of anything that I have come across is called an extract...though there are no other ingredients. The only reason it is not as potent as liquid is because it hasn't gone through the alchemical process heating employs. I don't feel comfortable buying products either, that's why I'm making mine...and Chiyomilk's regiment is exactly what I've modeled my supplement plan after.
One of their powders is a blend...obviously I wasn't referring to this one. Which is why I linked the pure one. What do you mean "what active component"? If what you say is true, and liquid extract is 100% PM, that's THE ONLY ACTIVE COMPONENT. I plan on simply flushing with milk thistle once a month. And I'm dissolving the herbs in water...not taking capsules...big diff.

PM is not the active component. PM is the name of the plant, nothing more. Within the PM plant, there are numerous chemicals ie active ingredients. Easily 30 plus compounds that have differing physiological effects. Some of them are water soluble, some alcohol and maybe require p. Gycol to extract from the plant structure to purify and concentrate. Each unique.

As for PM and breast enhancement, its been postulated that 1 or more of the estrogen like substances that have been found in the PM plant MAY be the cause of breast enhancement when taken in high enough doses but not too high as to have unwanted side effects. That may well be the case but it could be an entirely different compound that hasn't been well characterized or is poorly controlled hence why a certain manufactured extract could be effective whereas another is ineffective.

NO formal research has been done to understand EXACTLY what is happening. You need synthetic derivatives tightly controlled to figure it out and then work backwards to figure out how much plant material is equivalent.

Home extracts ie tinctures are very crude processes compared to large scale manufacturing plants and for some plants good enough. Unfortunately for PM, getting pure extracts out isn't easily done at home.

PM has many health benefits outside of just breast enhancement and all those other health benefits can come from different active compounds. An active compound can be as simple as cellulose fiber to a compound that is only found at 0.01% ie in 1kg ie 10mgs a very very very small amount. 1 plant can be used for 10, 50, 100 different ailments depending on how its used (food, tea, raw vs. cooked, compress, injection, water extract, solvent extract, what part if the plant its used root skin, root internal bulb, stem, leaf, flower, pollen, age of plants to ensure high enough concentrate, organic wildcrafted vs. Inorganic in case of anti-oxidant potential where a stressed plant wildcraftes would produce more protective factors to survive vs. fertilized plants that wouldn't need the added protection so would be lower in anti-oxidants.