[ChristinaD]

Hey Timarie, thanks for the wealth of information, you really know your stuff.

I dont know where exactly in the thighs the maca was making my friend as well as her friend gain in thighs, but maca has made my hips come out a little, gave me more bum, and my thighs are a little more bigger in the front and right in between my thighs at the top appears to be a little bigger with muscle.

This is crazy interesting. Clearly it sounds like muscle (as you mentioned the abductors, glutes, quads, and adductors), which would make sense since maca increases testosterone.... but to what degree? How much maca were you taking in a day? I have rather high testosterone as it is (although still within the normal range), so I am not sure if taking maca will help my case to build in those locations.... and am not exactly sure how it works, either. I have only read that it balances the hormones, but how? Does it balance by converting estrogen to testosterone (therefore decreasing estrogen as it increases testosterone), or does it increase the testosterone to "match" estrogen for balance? And I wonder, therefore, how it will effect my NBE program.

I wear the squeem for about 8 hours a day, I bought it based on reviews but am still skeptical as to whether it will really do anything. It does really give you am hourglass figure, and sometimes my eyes play tricks on me making me think I really do have that hourglass figure, but I find it a little bulky under my clothes in that it makes my lower belly and waist look bigger than it really is. So I think I will start using at home and during sleep only because I don't want to look like I have big stomach with curves.

So is the material kind of thick? Yeah, I wouldn't like that either! Seems to defeat the purpose. Keep me updated on this, please! I still wonder if it really burns fat, or if it just sheds water weight (which you would know based on how fast you gained it back after stopping wearing it). Based on the information of another product (Sweet-Sweat), in order for thermogenesis to happen (which is the process by which the squeem is supposed to burn fat off permanently), you need to have an elevated heart rate. So I am not sure if I'd understand the point of wearing it all day long like a corset, unless you are very active throughout your day

I have read online that PM should not be taken be with diet products and that caffeine should be cut out.

This is taken from Anterol's site:
Do not use any fat blocking medicines (no diet treatments) while you are take PMP. It will have adverse effect to alternative natural treatment and Pueraria Mirifica will not absorb 100% to your body.
www.ainterolspuerariamirificapowderextracts100gm-p-132.html

That link didn't work for me for some reason, but I was able to find the page I think to which you were referring. Thanks for sharing! A couple things about this...
1) I do not trust Ainterol on everything, as they have told me many times that they do not believe in cycling PM and believe that if a person's cycle is thrown off, that they should continue taking PM regularly and their system will just adjust. They obviously have an agenda, and the possible agenda they could have in this one (about fat blocking medicines) is that, they won't eliminate from their success list the people who get bigger breasts just from gaining overall body fat. So I would not be entirely convinced of this statement until I saw actual scientific evidence of it.
2) Even if it WAS true (as it does make sense to me), I would have to step back and consider what was most important to me. I would much rather prefer to keep my breast size with a healthy, toned figure, than to gain breast size at the cost of gaining overall body fat. I know it will possibly decrease my success for breast growth, but I would prefer slow gains with my breasts while maintaining or losing overall body fat, than gaining overall body fat and fast breast growth. No thanks. That’s just called getting fat, and some of it going to the boobs !
3) Ainterol is being a little self-contradictory, because if they turn away something like CLA (which is naturally found in all meats and dairies, btw), then I guess we cannot take our PM with that milk that they so strongly suggest us to take with it. Hmmm... did they think of that? So, I am sure that some intense fat-blockers might not be a good idea (like Oxyelite Pro), but something like CLA which is naturally found in the foods we eat everyday? Now that's just being silly.

And yes, caffeine should be cut out mostly because it decreases estrogen levels in white females http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/30/study-caffeine-may-alter-estrogen-levels-in-women/. It also dehydrates you (if taking more than 500mg a day), and it increases metabolism and in that way indirectly contributes to fat loss; therefore, it MAY effect breast growth but again, I think it is unrealistic to do everything in one's power to increase fat intake unless one's ONLY goal is to have bigger breasts, then sure. I think big breasts on a big body look less attractive, as it is all about proportion, so I want to keep the unhealthy fat off and whatever fat I manage to get to my breasts, great; and whatever doesn't get to my breasts, so be it. It's not worth getting a belly for that. But that is just my opinion!

But be because of the excess hormones, estrogen ( i am currently cycling) and water retention, I find my lower belly bloated and a little puffy so I am have been drinking a cup of green tea a day. But am going to try dandelion tea which is suppose to be good for belly fat, cleansing the liver and toxins from body, ridding the body of excess of water, balancing hormones and is also caffine free

It looks like dandelion is supposed to help with fat by suppressing appetite and helps you to shed water weight. If you think that one of the contributors to your belly is your diet and/or water weight (which from what you wrote, it does), then this should be promising! Otherwise, I am not so sure. I currently drink dandelion for my NBE program, and take the capsules at night. I never crave sweets or junk or really even food for that matter, and haven't since the end of last summer (I think ) so I could care less about the appetite-decreasing part of it... but was hoping for the laxative and cleansing effects and, more importantly, the possibility that it may increase the amount of estrogen receptors. I was not aware of its ability to balance hormones which now actually concerns me, as I am concerned about maca (mentioned above, in what way do they balance the hormones?).

My problem is although I eat healthy and workout I can have big appetite and the herbs and PM only increases it. I also have a sweet tooth and tend to snack everyday on some sort of junk and a lot. I am really trying to cut out the junk
I really don't think I am in a calorie deficit, but maybe I should work out at a medium intensity in the fat burning zone?

It depends on your priorities. If your priority is to lose fat and your secondary goal is to gain muscle, then yes, go ahead and do the medium intensity and please completely cut out the junk. The sooner you do, the sooner the day will come when you no longer crave it! If your priority is to gain muscle and your secondary goal is to lose fat, like mine, then I would suggest you not to do the medium intensity (do light cardio alternated with intense cardio for short periods, such as mine) and to just focus on cutting out the junk. Either way, you need to focus on completely cutting out the junk. It helps with nothing except for robbing your body of opportunities to gain valuable nutrients and helping you to gain fat (as you know). Just think of how many more healthy foods you can eat that your body wants and needs if you cut out the junky snacks? Imagine the gains! I think your idea of drinking the dandelion tea is great, because it is a very healthy appetite suppressant.

Hi Tamarie,

Thanks for replying.

I do have pretty nice abs, but since started NBE some times it seems like I'm retaining water there because I can feel the bloating in my lower abdomen. I do want to tighten my abs though, as I had my second child almost a year ago and my belly ring does not look the same in the way that it hangs. I use to always have rock solid abs. My friend said I was "huge" when I was pregnant. I gained just under 40lbs in both of pregnancies but only belly, so I guess to some I would look big cause its just belly where I gain (and barely anything at all to the breast) but would lose all the weight fairly quickly.

You brought up a point with the squeem and sweet sweat... My squeem is not rubber but should I wear it while workout out the gym as my heart rate will be increased at that time?

I still cheat with a large cup of green tea, need to switch to decaf...
But can't wait for my dandelion tea to come.

I hear what you are saying about Ainterol (and other PM manufacturers for that matter). Right now I don't want to mess up a good thing and take any fat blockers or CLA. If I start to gain weight in other places I will access at that time.
I started NBE 3 months ago and my breast are slowly growing in nicely .

Not sure if your taking PM or if you ever did....but I am starting to think PM may be one of the contributors to my recent hip and bum growth. I was thinking it was solely the Maca, but after reading that PM womenizes figures and increases hip and bum growth, I think Maca has something to do with it. My glutes also squeeze for some reason when I walk and my bf was actually the first to notice this.

I know I need to kick the sweets. I always had a sweet tooth and use to eat really bad in that i would fill up on junk and sweets and hardly eat any protein. i changed that greatly but i do indulge on some kind of junk pretty much every day. I must admit I am blessed in that I'm able to stay thin and eat junk every day. But I am working on this though. I did kick my bad habit about six months ago and really slimmed-down and loved it. I since went back to my usual weight, ( I have a slim muscular build) but now I have this even bigger booty… Which I am just lovin as well as the bf. I also love to bake, which is a problem when I do cause I will want to eat all Lol.
But besides the indulging I do eat fairly healthy and workout.