[Tinytots]

Hi Tinytots,
I was only taking 1 pm pill in the am and massaging with pm cream in the evening. I did try eliminating the cream but still had the backaches till I removed the pill. I wanted to start out slow with the pm.

I wonder if I would have the same problem with red clover? Maybe I need something not as strong as pm. I am built very petite even though I am 5'3".

I think I can play around a bit, my gyn checked my hormone levels back in June (prior to starting nbe). I have been having a bit of pms lately (mostly moodiness, irritability and temper issues), she wanted to check to see if I was in perimenopause but she said all my horomones were well within the normal range.

I would probably say it was the pm. How many mgs? Ii take the aintrol pm extract at 1 drp which is 40mgs. And 2 or 3 dps in my massage base. And I'm having side effects from that. When I took fenugreek, saw palmetto , wild yam all from green bush I was so tired and exhausted at night but during the day I would get so mad and irritated easily.
It was up down all the time. With pm I am getting brain zaps, and tunnel fog. It's like I am Present but i don't feel like i am, its Almost mind numbing. Also not to mention the morning dose I have to make a quick run to the bathroom..
I though about red clover to. Definitely give it a try. Also maybe try every other day to start or every few days. I have to go slow to... Bummer...
Oh and also your hormones might be in normal range but could one be more strong than the others. I have high progesterone and fenugreek increases progesterone which can make you super tired. Did she give you the results if not I would ask for a copy.