[lora]

Well you should be less confused since it is clearly obvious what you need! Progesterone. So, yeah, who cares about those bottles of PM you have at this point. NBE is about knowing YOUR body and what YOU need... not about following some other person's program which worked for her (although copying another's program is a good way to start to get a feel for what works or doesn't work for you... but now that you know it DOESN'T work for you, it's time to move on!).

Chiyomilk's routine is not what you need, just as I found out it is not what I need, either. Mine was a little less obvious than yours (because my estrogen levels were normal, progesterone levels were normal, but T levels were high), but I think it is pretty safe to say that you need more P and less E. Have you any idea what your T levels are? How about your Prolactin levels?

But yeah, since your E levels are high you will probably not want to take anything that raises your E levels, since your E is blocking up all the receptors and your P has no way of getting to them. I do not know how to drop E levels. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on this subject can chime in? So, in that case, you will not want to take SP, or FG, or WY, or DQ, or Fennel for sure. They all increase E levels, and you don't want that!

I am not the best to give advice on Progesterone, but I plan to get mine through taking BO and lowering my T with Chinese Scullcap and Spearmint. I know if I will be needing still more P (although I am hoping that BO will be enough), there is always PC. Oh and Chasteberry.

So yeah, there is no need to be upset!! If I were you, I'd be happy, because it is CLEAR what you need. No more guessing!! As for your leftover PM and atomizer, you can always sell it to people on the forum. There will always be people interested in buying it. I don't know about you, but I would rather know that what I bought doesn't work for me than to keep taking it without knowing...


EDIT: I just noticed Tibetan's post. She makes a really good point. Follow up on what is the cause of your low P levels.

thanks timarie for supporting,

my T level is 0.86 and the normal range is 0.1-0.8
it means i'm the highest level in normal range and i know i need to decrease my T a little bit as i've acne and some facial hair , but i think i need something els than sp, may be i'll use Chinese Scullcap and Spearmint as you, so what's the brands are you using ?

i searched for estrogen blocker and i found that

http://www.amazon.com/Natures-Way-DIM-plus-120-Capsules/dp/B003DI96P6/ref=sr_1_5?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1380470180&sr=1-5&keywords=dim+200mg

it's a DIM, i'm gonna use it i think till i know what's the cause of my case.

i tried BO before but it didn't work .

but i thought that wy increase progesterone, there is even wy cream claiming to increase progesterone .

what do you think the problem that my prolactin may be causing ? i'm gonna tested anyway .

all i can do now is
pc
vitex (for progesterone production )
DIM (for estrogen blocking )
Scullcap and Spearmint (as anti androgen )
keep on whey protein
vit E
vit C

shouldn't i use fenugreek at all ? i was planning to use it in my follicular phase.