[lora]

Actually Abi, I believe she CAN utilize the phytos from whole foods, they are very weak compared to many of the top herbs and will bind to many of her receptors. Though no one truly knows how the body will function to handle this, not even MD's.There is a lot of theory, you will just have to try it @ Lora. It worked for me.

Now, I've done this before with my very first nbe attempt (high DHEA), though all of my hormones where out of range crazy high, my estradiol was the highest and quite dangerous. I had massive headaches and the worst bloating and cramps, I thought I could die!
I felt like my insides were being ripped out at times. I did a series of flushing colon and liver and no herbs. i then did full body chelation capsules. I ate cleaner and did 3 tblspns of coconut oil daily and filled out quite nicely with a healthy bmi (not the breasts though, sadly). I was underweight then. I did take DIM/IC3 supps.

I would def. look into supplementals to metabolize the estrogen as it sounds like you have loads free running in the blood.

Supplemental very weak phytos and metabolizers from whole foods of fruits and veggies and stay away from herbs and spices except for salt and pepper).

No grains what-so-ever. There's a PRIME reason why many high raw vegan (80/10/10) women have very light periods to non existent (not all of them are cardio or exercise fanatics). The food is cooling and can be damp to the womb, they don't eat meat or dairy (that's loaded with hormones/ hormone percursing cholesterol). The fruits and veggies are weak in progestin-like effects and phyto estrogens. So your output should come back down to normal. My only concern is why is your progesterone so low (below range right?)

So you need to just get on a high vegan raw diet for a month and then eat regular and still, little meat, no dairy,no grains ( maybe brown rice for the exception) and no herbs. Just warming, clean foods, very little raw soaked nuts, and seeds.

thanks tibetan , i'm really sorry that you had passed all of this but it's very similar to my situation on every thing nearly except for hashimoto i read on your thread that you had .

i read on some articles that when there is much of estradiol in the body it stops the progesterone secretion and the body Stops responding even to this high estrogen , this is may be the reason for my low p and it explains why i was growing on my puberty normally and suddenly every thing stopped like if someone shut down my growth , and yes i know now who was this one who shut every thing in my body, it's the bad high concentration of E .

and may be this low p level is due something else it may appears on my next test result .
or could be due to a month of using sp while i didn't know i'm E dominant.


but how can i stop administering milk and my whole protein shake depend on it ? i can't bear protein shake taste on water or something els rather than milk .