ok first of all girls i don't consider my p level is extremely low, it just below than range by .04 and this is not too bad, second there is noway timarie to increase my p while my E that high, as from articles i read, too much E in the body inhibit the secretion of p and may be other hormones too, this because the body feels that it has a lot of hormones and doesn't think which hormone it has a lot of but simply the body thinks that this level of hormones is enough and it doesn't need anymore so, it shuts the secretion of hormones especially p the most similar in action to E .
this high level of estradiol not only inhibit the secretion of p but also stops the body responding to all estrogen .
so, my high E level is a very important consideration and the detoxification process is highly recommended as tibetan said too .
considering the phyto estorgen, i'm not insist to use it at all, actually i hate what E makes with my body, but as you see in my other thread there are 2 theories about phytoE, by the way the theories i read are from articles have a good references and scientifically logical .
ok let's see, the first theory mentioned that it may be a benefit using phytoE as it helps replacing the bad old estardiol accumulated in the body and helps detoxification " and this theory to somewhat similar to what the admin says here http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=5135
it says " use very low dose phytoestrogens (crushed flaxseed) to block estrogen receptors from more potent estrogens "
so, my conclusion is there is a difference between the bad type of estrogen (esradiol ) causing the E dominance case and the good type phyto-E, BUT , the phyto E may convert into the bad type in the body espcially a body like me, so i think if anyone gonna use this theory it must be with very high caution. may be using it in very low dose,very weak phytos and in organic form like crushed flax , tibtan and i believe i'm ok with crushed falx but not falx oil but, we don't actually know the difference.
the second theory about phyto you all already know .
anyway we should differentiate all the time between the good type of estrogen and the bad type that must be detoxified and eliminated from the body all the time .
and my cause to choose to switch to whey power plus is that ON company wasn't very honest actually, i researched a lot about all types of protein before buying and found that whey protein is the most suitable for my needs and the isolate is the top of whey, the best and the most expensive, which ON agree with too and mention that on its label, so i was searching for a whey protein isolate and found that ON is the less expensive one, i wondered why but i reviewed the product more than one time and found that they say 100% whey protin isolate , so i bought it .
but when i received it i found this on its back label and i got depressed
it says " whey protein isolates are the purest form of whey protein that currently exist. WPIs are costly to use, but rate among the best proteins that money can buy. that's why they're the first ingredient you read on the main label." but it's just the primary ingredient not the 100% as they said first and the other is whey protein concentrate . this explains why its coast is low.
so i'm on two choices now, whey power plus or GNC , and if you don't prefer whey power plus i'll choose GNC .
by the way, whey power plus contains no sugar and very low non-considerable amount of fats and cholesterol compared with the very high amount of sugar , fats and cholesterol in ON
WHEY POWER PLUS :
no sugar at all ( safe for diabetic)
total fats 0.7g
cholesterol 8.5mg
no gluten
no MSG
no artificial sweeteners
ON :
sugar 2 g (very high actually )
fats 1.5 g (very high too )
cholesterol 40mg (very very high )
so, i'm looking for an honest company and very good quality product .
this high level of estradiol not only inhibit the secretion of p but also stops the body responding to all estrogen .
so, my high E level is a very important consideration and the detoxification process is highly recommended as tibetan said too .
considering the phyto estorgen, i'm not insist to use it at all, actually i hate what E makes with my body, but as you see in my other thread there are 2 theories about phytoE, by the way the theories i read are from articles have a good references and scientifically logical .
ok let's see, the first theory mentioned that it may be a benefit using phytoE as it helps replacing the bad old estardiol accumulated in the body and helps detoxification " and this theory to somewhat similar to what the admin says here http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=5135
it says " use very low dose phytoestrogens (crushed flaxseed) to block estrogen receptors from more potent estrogens "
so, my conclusion is there is a difference between the bad type of estrogen (esradiol ) causing the E dominance case and the good type phyto-E, BUT , the phyto E may convert into the bad type in the body espcially a body like me, so i think if anyone gonna use this theory it must be with very high caution. may be using it in very low dose,very weak phytos and in organic form like crushed flax , tibtan and i believe i'm ok with crushed falx but not falx oil but, we don't actually know the difference.
the second theory about phyto you all already know .
anyway we should differentiate all the time between the good type of estrogen and the bad type that must be detoxified and eliminated from the body all the time .
and my cause to choose to switch to whey power plus is that ON company wasn't very honest actually, i researched a lot about all types of protein before buying and found that whey protein is the most suitable for my needs and the isolate is the top of whey, the best and the most expensive, which ON agree with too and mention that on its label, so i was searching for a whey protein isolate and found that ON is the less expensive one, i wondered why but i reviewed the product more than one time and found that they say 100% whey protin isolate , so i bought it .
but when i received it i found this on its back label and i got depressed
it says " whey protein isolates are the purest form of whey protein that currently exist. WPIs are costly to use, but rate among the best proteins that money can buy. that's why they're the first ingredient you read on the main label." but it's just the primary ingredient not the 100% as they said first and the other is whey protein concentrate . this explains why its coast is low.
so i'm on two choices now, whey power plus or GNC , and if you don't prefer whey power plus i'll choose GNC .
by the way, whey power plus contains no sugar and very low non-considerable amount of fats and cholesterol compared with the very high amount of sugar , fats and cholesterol in ON
WHEY POWER PLUS :
no sugar at all ( safe for diabetic)
total fats 0.7g
cholesterol 8.5mg
no gluten
no MSG
no artificial sweeteners
ON :
sugar 2 g (very high actually )
fats 1.5 g (very high too )
cholesterol 40mg (very very high )
so, i'm looking for an honest company and very good quality product .