[timarie]

about HGH spray, it's not the same as amino acids,
Vital HGH spray contains,
Hepar Suis 6X, Human growth hormone 30X, Pituitary Porcine.

yes tim this what is written on my test report, and of course i asked about this point, and searched a lot and i found that it's normal to have no growth hormone at all after age 25, so the normal range for this age become from 0 to 10, if i'm 0 hgh, it's normal for my age and if i exceed 10 it's abnormal . so this range is correct . and lucky me i'm not 0

and for sorry the doctors here don't pay any attention to such things, you know something, i did some tests when i was 20 which has irregularity too and my doctor told me that everything is fine and i shouldn't do any thing, while my progesterone was under the normal from that time and i didn't notice that till now .

doctors are helpless in that.

and you are right about hgh stimulating supplements, what i'm taking is enough . i think exercise is helping me, but i don't bear much effort, my fitness is zero like i'm very old, with low effort i feel very exhausted, and most of the time my energy is so low to encourage me to begin exercising for a minutes .

and i drink 2 cup of protein shakes a day to help me gaining weight, some energy and nutrition, you know protein is not only for hgh or muscle growth, it's the building unit for many tissues in the body .

i'll read what you wrote many times, you mentioned a lot of useful things thanks

About the HGH spray-- I was telling you from what I saw of the HGH spray products online. If you have a specific spray in mind that you want us to look at, then give us the link please. All of these products contain mostly a boat-load of HGH stimulators and amino acids though. But I am willing to have an open mind.

I am sure that a product like this certainly won't hurt you and will help you possibly in some small temporary ways, but it will be just that: temporary, because we will not be addressing the root of the problem by just supplementing the outcome. As I mentioned to you earlier, the pituitary gland is responsible for your HGH release. And doctor's may consider 0HGH to be normal at your age mostly because "normal" is defined by the norm, not always by what is healthy. In this case, most people (as Abi mentioned earlier) are having less and less HGH produced due to their lifestyles and diets and yes, this WILL catch up to them. So, all these people with unhealthily low HGH levels? The doctor is comparing you to them, and you don't want that. You want a healthy level of HGH. HGH can be raised gradually over time with exercise being brought into one's lifestyle though, for sure. And definitely remember your sleep. Try to get your body to produce it on its own instead of supplementing it, because then your body won't be so dependent on supplements all the time.

I am really sorry about your doctors. Our doctors here aren't the best either, to be honest. But it IS their job to help us with obvious help problems (although they never seem to recognize the benefits of herbs). Maybe it is not so much "their job" to proactively tell you when you have a health issue where you are from. That stinks Well at least it sounds like you have the best meat in the world, at least that is good!

As for talking about protein: remember that protein shakes offer a great source of protein, but not all protein is protein shakes. And yes I do know that protein is necessary for building the body for EVERY person, which is what I told Lookingforward above (see the third-to-last paragraph of post #32). Our bodies are 70% proteins, so our diet should be about 70% protein... and what I mean by this is what I wrote in post #32: that you should consume 70% of your body weight in grams of protein per day (in other words, if you weigh 100lbs, you should consume 70 grams of protein per day). You can get protein from numerous different sources. Whey protein is meant for those who need a more bioavailable form of protein, faster digesting protein, and those who cannot manage to eat more in their day. There is no harm in taking protein shakes (otherwise I would have told you NOT to take it), and it is a good source of protein. BUT, if you are able to get that protein that you need from whole foods, then whey protein shakes are just a more expensive option. Basically, that is it in a nutshell. But you are certainly right: protein is extremely important for everyone's diet.

As for you feeling fatigued, does a little bit of caffeine pick you up? I drink a pre-workout shake before my lower body workout every week (about to do it now, actually!) and it gets my sluggish butt up and moving! I am sure you have already thought of this.... I am just curious, what have you tried to help fight your fatigue? Maybe we can think of something.