Wait, so because one study using a single herb of unknown amounts failed, it means *nothing* can work? Seriously? Not to mention that you keep lumping kitchen sink products together with individual programs based on varying amounts of multiple herbs (far above what those shoddy products provide).
Science begins like so many things, trial and error. Just because one application of something fails doesn't mean that all others will. If that were the case, we'd have no dosing needs based on age, weight, severity, etc. We'd all take the same amounts of all medications and be effected precisely the same. That is quite obviously not the case with meds, so why should it be any different with herbs? Or how about the fact that some people don't even react to 100% proven effective treatments? Does that mean that all the people they do work for are just imagining it? Falling for the "hype"? I think not.
The biggest failing in this area where science is concerned is that herbs cannot be trademarked and therefore the money just isn't there for the extensive research that really needs to be done to prove or disprove them once and for all. I doubt that will ever happen. However, for those who decide to give it a shot and have success (as MANY here have) they don't need anyone telling them it works. They aren't sheep that will only believe what someone else tells them. They are the pioneers that will hopefully stand out of the crowd and eventually give hope to others who wish to take a chance themselves.
One final note / question: this thread was posted for the sole purpose of asking about a specific product that is PM based, regardless of what else it contains. You obviously have zero personal experience with it yet you felt the need to come and bash herbs in general, then backpedal and say that PM does work, but THIS product simply can't... why? What do you gain from such rudeness?
Science begins like so many things, trial and error. Just because one application of something fails doesn't mean that all others will. If that were the case, we'd have no dosing needs based on age, weight, severity, etc. We'd all take the same amounts of all medications and be effected precisely the same. That is quite obviously not the case with meds, so why should it be any different with herbs? Or how about the fact that some people don't even react to 100% proven effective treatments? Does that mean that all the people they do work for are just imagining it? Falling for the "hype"? I think not.
The biggest failing in this area where science is concerned is that herbs cannot be trademarked and therefore the money just isn't there for the extensive research that really needs to be done to prove or disprove them once and for all. I doubt that will ever happen. However, for those who decide to give it a shot and have success (as MANY here have) they don't need anyone telling them it works. They aren't sheep that will only believe what someone else tells them. They are the pioneers that will hopefully stand out of the crowd and eventually give hope to others who wish to take a chance themselves.
One final note / question: this thread was posted for the sole purpose of asking about a specific product that is PM based, regardless of what else it contains. You obviously have zero personal experience with it yet you felt the need to come and bash herbs in general, then backpedal and say that PM does work, but THIS product simply can't... why? What do you gain from such rudeness?