[Helenmarianne]

Questions asked:
I have already had a few questions asked, I will try to answer them here

Do you have any side effects from the Full Fat Soy flour or the Flaxseed?
No I have not noticed any negative side effects at all, only positive (breast growth).

Have you noticed any side effects when combining with the BCP?
No, I have not had any side effects with the BCP at all. I feel a little sharper in my mind, and more happy, that is all.

After how long did you notice an improvement?
 I think after a week I felt my breasts growing and funny feeling. It took me about a 3 weeks to grow a full cup size the first time.

How long did you try out each dose before deciding to go up?
For the grounded flaxseed: I started out by taking 20 gram each time (so that is 20 grams in the morning & 20 grams in the evening, 20 grams total a day), after I didn’t feel an increase for a few days, I increased my dose by 5 grams a time. I also tried out 35 grams, but that didn’t do much for me, so I went back to 30 grams per take. Do steps of 5 grams, and see what works for you. Remember, everybody has a different body, see what works for you. Ideally you want to stay around 20 grams each take (40 grams total a day) due to the cyanide health risk.
For the full fat soy: Same as with the grounded flaxseed, I did steps of 5 grams with each take. 25 grams worked out for me, I tried out 30 grams (so 60 grams total a day), but that didn’t do anything for me. I notice in the same week if I have any growth, but 25 each time is enough for me.

What brand of Whole Milk, Grounded Flaxseed, or Full fat Soy flour, do you buy?
Really doesn’t matter what brand, I buy different brands all the time from different products, it still works the same. Just make sure it is the actual product. We all live in different countries anyways.

Do you get digestion problems from the soy?
No I don’t. If you do, see what the problem is, if you have an allergy maybe. Or if you have a unhealthy diet, so the bacteria in your gut are not used to metabolizing soy products. In that case, clean up your diet (you should anyway hehe)

Do you take probiotics?
No, I don’t take any probiotics at all. I don’t need them, a healthy diet with lots of fresh fruit and vegetables and whole grain products provides everything you need.

Did your skin breakout (acne) from the flaxseed?
No it didn’t. Keep in mind that some people have food sensitivities, like chocolate. Everyone has a different body. It something doesn’t work for you, then find out why (help from doctor possibly), and act on that.

I am below the age of 18, can I use this method?
No, you should not use this method at all, don’t mess with your hormones when you are young, you might regret it the rest of your life, you are still growing! My breasts where size 32AA at age 18, and they grew into 32A until I was 21. I would actually advice to wait until you are at least 21 to start this program.
You can also try massaging your breasts, that is always safe. Katana has a great breast massaging thread on this, she grew 4 cupsizes with just massaging! Link here: http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=26280

Besides this, it is also safe to use breastpumps like Noogleberry. These also don't mess with your hormones.
They work on tissue expension, you can google that.

Also, when you are young, you should really look in to taking BCP (Birth Control Pill). I grew 1 cupsize while being on BCP. There are many different kinds out there, if one doesn’t work for you (try at least 3 months to be sure), then switch to the next. Ask your doctor for the different kinds (there are different ones in every country, so no point here to write them all down). This is under the care of your doctor, and it is proven and safe medication, and that is always better than a method like this.

What about lactose free milk, instead of whole milk?
Sorry I have no scientific data on that to help you out. You should try it out, and let us know!

What does growth feel like? How do you know if you are growing?
It doesn’t really hurt, but there is a little discomfort in your breasts. At first, there will be fluid accumulating in your breasts, it will feel lumpy. Eventually these lumps will be replaced by actual breast tissue, so no worries if you are only feeling lumps in the beginning (I was kind of freaking out in the beginning haha!) But no worries, this is normal, it will go away in a month or so.

Do you have any stretch marks from the fast growing?
No I used a moisturizer everyday to prevent this.

Did you use anything else besides these methods?
No I did not use any pumps, did not do any massages, did not take any other pills or anything.

Do you think the BCP is responsible for the growth you have gotten?
Yes, but only for one cup size (from 32E to 32F). I only started taking BCP after I got stuck with the Soy and Flaxseed on 32E. So not before, that is good to know.

What does your diet look like on an average day?
I have to start by saying I am on a diet, so if you are on healthy weight, you should eat a lot more!
I take in 1300 kcal a day now.

Breakfast (08:00)
30 gram flaxseed
25 gram of soy + 200ml of full fat milk

Lunch (12:00/14:00)
1 fruit (banana, kiwi, orange, pear, avocado, etc.
1 cracker whole grain, with salad vegetables on it

Evening (18:00):
300 grams of fresh vegetables
Sometimes I eat meat or fish, but not always

Before I go to into my night routine (20:00)
30 gram flaxseed
25 gram of soy + 200ml of full fat milk
Eat another piece of fruit, any kind really
Sometimes when I am still hungry, I eat pistachios, cashew nuts or almond nuts 40 grams portions

That's it really
Once a week I eat like a cookie or something.
Plus I drink 2 bottles of water a day, that is 2 liters of water. I don't drink anything else really

Do you take any other herbs?
No, I only take my daily multivitamin and my daily fish oil capsules to stay healthy.

Do you have any pictures of your progress?
No I don't have any pictures at all.

I have tried this program, but I see no growth?
1) No worries, before you do anything, I urge you to have a look at the ‘Mistakes you will likely make’’ section I wrote. I have had many people e-mail me about that it hasn’t worked out for them. 10/10 times so far they made little mistakes. So good chance you might also have.
2) After you are sure you have not made any mistakes. This program mainly relies on the bacteria in your gut. Most likely your bacteria are not the right kind/species. Still no worries, you can change this. Scientists have found that people who live a healthy high fiber, and lots of fresh fruits and vegetables diet, have the right bacteria to metabolize the phytoestrogens.
So what you should try next is clean up your diet. Really sit down and write everything for one whole week what you are eating. Slowly adjust to add more fruits and vegetables, and whole grain products (like whole grain bread, crackers and pasta).
3) If you already think you have a perfect diet with 2 vegetables each day, and at least 250 grams of vegetables, and only whole grain products, and no unhealthy food besides this. You can always try to each different vegetables and fruits that you are eating at the moment, mix it up, be more diverse.
4) Are you using any other herbs or supplements for breast growth? You could be disrupting your endocrine system (hormone system) too much with all of the methods. Some counteract.
I would encourage you to stop any other herbs and try out this method by itself, just like I did. Might sound scary, but this is the only way to really know it for sure. The endocrine system is really difficult. Try to start over, sometimes less is more.
5) like I said above, sometimes one or the other interrupt each other, so maybe you should try just using grounded flaxseed by its own, or just full fat soy flour by its own.

[sweetorange]

Ellen, you rock!!!!

[Noogooley]

Sooo here is my OWN update haha

I have completely stopped my program for a good reason. I wanted to see what happened if I stopped for you guys, I am sure some of you must be curious. 
Because this method is fun, but not intended to take for the rest of your life, I strongly believe it is not healthy, at least the toasted full fat soy then. 
I wanted to use this whole method to kind of kick-start my NBE, and go on other methods from that.

My growth had stalled at 32F on this method for a few months, and for the last 1.5 months I have not taken any flaxseed or soy.
My breasts have shrunken one cup size within two weeks after I stopped. So I am an 32E now, and has been stable for the last month, I have not felt anything, and no difference whatsoever after those two weeks.

So basically I have permanently grown my breasts 3 cupsizes with this method (from 32 B to 32E).


Which is awesome!

So since this week I am doing Noogleberry 4 hours a day.
Also I am trying to see maybe if I can get Spironolactone (testosterone blocker), since I have big muscles, Hirsutism (unwanted hairs), and also acne. Maybe I have PCOS, but we will see about that.
I also do deer massage 10 min a day
and I continue to try and increase my growth hormone, by sleeping earlier and reducing my belly fat.


Much love to you all! Ellen

may i ask since when did u start noogleing ? and give is tips to reduce belly fat please xo

[ssimone]

Hi I have been reading this post over the past couple months and I have finally decided to try it. I am using flaxseed with a nutty taste (which I dont recommend) and no soy flour, for the time being. I have some questions about this method. 

1. Why do you add water to the flaxseeds? Maybe I missed it, and I am sorry if I did but just to be sure I am asking.

2. Can you recommend me a cheap but good brand of flaxseed?

[GoldenBoobs]

I am mainly posting here just to remember the day I started the soy flour. I am only doing the soy part. I need the extra protein anyway. I am only starting with 1/4 cup a day. I mixed it into my morning green smoothie, and it completely destroyed the taste of my smoothie. 

That was expected though lol. Next time I am just mixing it in water and gulping it down really quick.  

I was extremely bloated after, which lasted at least half the day. There is still a little bit of bloating from it, but not too much. My stomach hurt for hours after I took it. I am hoping my body adjusts, but we will see.

[kaliangel]

Thanks for the mention in yurban  thread miss Ellen! I would just like to correct one thing though, I have grown 4 cup sizes not 2 (British sizing goes F,FF,G,GG,H). Other than that I am honored to be mentioned 

I'm starting this program today wish me luck girls  but instead of cow's milk I'm gonna be drinking goat's milk since is easier to digest  kinda have problems with dairy  I'll see how I react if not I might BE drinking it with almond milk also I'll be doing some massage

[Love1593]

Hi Ellen I'm a newbie here!
Firstly congrats sweetz. I am soo happy for your growth.

And I am soooo glad I found ua post. I have started taking flaxseeds(2-3tbsp)/day and started massaging for 10mins(2times)/day since 1week. Will this work I am barely a b cup/small b ? N how long does it to atleast reach a full c cup?

Thanks in advance

Oh n BTW I consume flaxseed directly is it neccesary to take it with water
(I'd b happy if any of you can answer)

[bilbo5rr]

After reading boob growth on tumble and lead me to here.
I stared out as flay chested male

Then one day I realized after 5 years by accident that I grew some breast tissue

By drinking soy and red clover for other reasons like arthritis and bad skin complexion and by accident I grew some breast tissue.
Now I understand why as never eat any junk food and always active.
Now I enjoy my side effects of boobs tissue

My dilemma is whether too make more or not as know it is permeant?
I have bought some tofu, crushed flax seed and flaxseed oil for massages

Made a home made suction device using a funnel and one way vavle and tubing.
I am not bi or cross dresser just curious about about having boobies as it feel Good while massaging real turn on.
I could say that flaxseed and soy would be good for my arthritis and boob growth was a side effect.
I took red clover with sage and gota kola for my skin problem which it cured it

Now I know why it reduces the male testrohron which ca used it.
I also now take SP for prostate.

[HW-889]

Please let me know if you are using this program in this thread!
Maybe you just started, or you have some extra tips or variations, or you changed your diet to something that works. That way we can all learn from it.
Plus I am soooo curious about anyone else who is using this! <3

Hi Ellen! I was reading your soy flour and flax method and couldn't believe how fast your results had been. (Like seriously is that even real!?!?) After spending loads of money on Natureday products and reading on here that they are hardly worth it.. I've been really discouraged. I've only been taking them for 3 months but I've seen no change. I'm an Australian sized 10AA (tiiiiiinnnnny) and I'm so tired of having low self esteem because of it. I just want to have SOMETHING. A B cup would be like a dream come true but it seems so far out of reach for me and I simply don't have the money to be buying herbs or trying noogling methods at all. I'm new on here and I don't really understand the forums or all the hormones talk. I'm not sure exactly what would work best for me but considering your method is so cheap I really wanted to ask about it. Is there anything that could make your method not work for me? I'm 18 (I know that's young) but all my sisters and mother are as flat as a board too, so I simply don't want to wait it out anymore... I'm very small, I weigh about 40kilos, have a very fast metabolism so even though I eat well I just can't seem to store fat. My periods are very light and short and I feel like I haven't had a growth spurt in years (I'm 5'2) I do have a pretty physique but as I'm so flat chested I often get ridiculed when I go out to parties or receive backhanded comments from boys. I've even had boyfriends admit that it would be nice if I had a little bit more going on up there... please help me .. I need advice and reassurance that your program might actually work for me. I want to be confident and love myself. 

--Thankyou.. x

[Helenmarianne]

So excited to try this! I've been using the powder in milk. It started hitting my gag button and I through it back up everytime lol, so I bought a capsule machine and am going to put them in capsules so I can't taste anything and still drink the water with the flaxseeds and the milk with the soy flour. Do you think it'll work?