[Lotus]

Just a few facts about SAW PALMETTO

• SAW PALMETTO-DHT inhibiting effect, decreases progesterone receptors, (Taking saw palmetto along with estrogen pills might decrease the effectiveness of estrogen pills).

SAW PALMETTO -Moderate Interaction


Saw Palmetto, causes a reduction in estrogen, inhibits progesterone receptors, causes acne, cellulite, and clotting issues.
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Birth control pills (Contraceptive drugs)
Some birth control pills contain estrogen. Saw palmetto might decrease the effects of estrogen in the body. Taking saw palmetto along with birth control pills might decrease the effectiveness of birth control pills. If you take birth control pills along with saw palmetto, use an additional form of birth control such as a condom.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/drugi...l/971.html
http://www.medicinenet.com/saw_palmetto-...tamins.htm
http://www.rxlist.com/saw_palmetto-page3...ements.htm
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/saw_palme...ements.htm

-Treating prostate infections and chronic pelvic pain syndrome. Saw palmetto doesn’t seem to help prostate infections or chronic pelvic pain syndrome.
Prostate cancer. Research studies to date have found that taking saw palmetto doesn’t seem to prevent prostate cancer.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/drugi...l/971.html

-Saw palmetto seems to decrease estrogen levels in the body. Taking saw palmetto
along with estrogen pills might decrease the effectiveness of estrogen pills.
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/pharmacologi...inhibitors

-EFFECT ON ESTROGEN RECEPTORS
The plant steroids in saw palmetto also act on progesterone receptors, an action that causes a reduction in estrogen levels, Preliminary research has found that saw palmetto hinders the conversion process of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone by more than 40 percent.

DOSAGE RECOMMENDATION
The University of Maryland Medical Center suggests consuming saw palmetto in standardized capsule form. While this herb can be taken as a tea, its primary active compounds are not water-soluble, so they may not be transferred from the herb into the water. Consume 160 mg of saw palmetto up to two times per day. Make sure the supplement contains 85 to 95 percent fatty acids and sterols.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/543983...-estrogen/


Birth control pills (Contraceptive drugs)
Some birth control pills contain estrogen. Saw palmetto might decrease the effects of estrogen in the body. Taking saw palmetto along with birth control pills might decrease the effectiveness of birth control pills. If you take birth control pills along with saw palmetto, use an additional form of birth control such as a condom.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/drugi...l/971.html
http://www.medicinenet.com/saw_palmetto-...tamins.htm
http://www.rxlist.com/saw_palmetto-page3...ements.htm
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/saw_palme...ements.htm

[Lotus]

I see this list I made being copied to some new members threads, the list took a month to track down all the info and make it into readable bullet points. PLEASE KEEP IT INTACT:

Herbs/plant based and grains used for breast enlargement

• Pueraria Mirifica-The most potent phytoestrogen, targets E receptors, minor anti-androgen (daidzien)
  

• Fenugreek-Prolactin stimulate, increases production of estrogen, phytoestrogen, adaptogen
  

• Blessed thistle-Increases the flow of milk, (causes irritation of GI tract)
  

• Nettle root-Binds to SHBG, increases estrogen and testosterone
  

• Saw palmetto-DHT inhibiting effect, acts on progesterone receptors (causing a reduction in estrogen levels)

• Hops-Activates alpha estrogen receptors which stimulates breast growth, increases SHBG which binds free testosterone
  

• White peony root-Estrogenic, blocks 5-ar and pro-aromatase, strong
  

• Fennel-Promotes milk production, nutrient rich for NBE growth, stimulates the growth of breast tissue

• Wild yam-Stimulates hormone production, increases progesterone, prolactin, anti-androgen, and slows the metabolism of estrone, one of the body's own estrogens.
  

• Dong Quai-Balance hormones, assists breast enlargement, improves gland function activities

• Red clover-Minor aromatase inhibitor, highly estrogenic, Binds to alpha estrogen receptor
  

• Licorice Root-Anti-androgenic, activates alpha and beta estrogen receptors and blocks 5-ar, DGL is thought to have fewer side effects

• Anise-Stimulates breast growth by increasing E, (1980 study published in the Journal of Ethnopharmacology)

• Black cohosh-Appears to bind to estrogen receptors, mimics hormonal effects of estrogen, estriol

• Alfalfa-Natural phytoestrogens, helps with menopausal symptoms, inhibits bone loss caused by estrogen deficiency

• Chaste tree-Corrects hormone imbalances, increases LH in favor of E and progesterone

• Maca root-Abundant in amino acids, phytonutrients, healthy fatty acids, vitamins, and minerals, increase in energy and libido, adaptogen

• Goats rue-Builds breast tissue and increases milk supply
  

• Red Reishi-Significantly reduces levels of 5-alpha reductase (DHT)
  

• Shatavari-Phytoestrogen, normalizes estrogen levels, prolactin source, adaptogen
  

• Ashwagandha-Adaptogen, restores a sense of well-being, similar to Panax ginseng

• Dandelion root-Upregulates estrogen receptors, uses the estrogen you are putting in

• Damiana-For hormone imbalance, improve poor mammary gland development
  

• Milk Thistle-Cleanses the liver of excess hormones
  

• Chinese Skullcap-Inhibits 5-alpha-reductase enzyme
  

• Marshmallow Root-Inhibits Hyaluronidase, increases tissue permeability
  

• Watercress-Increases energy, high in iron and vitamin E
  

• Red raspberry--Balance hormones, promotes breast health
  

• Passion Flower-Calming agent that adds to total well being
  

• Senna-To increase absorption and effectiveness of herbs, eliminates toxins
  

• Pygeum-Reduces the level of DHT, reduces prolacting levels, Inhibits 5-alpha reductase

• Spearmint-Anti-androgenic properties reduces the level of free testosterone in the blood, while leaving total testosterone and DHEAS unaffected

• Flax-Phytoestrogen, increases SHBG, source of omega-3 fatty acids, Lignans (Flaxseed) are phytoestrogens with estrogenic or anti-estrogenic activity.
  

• Oats-Phytoestrogen, decreases SHBG, source of zinc, iron, vitamins B6, vitamin E and amino acids

• Yogurt-Rich in vitamins, calcium and minerals, growth factors stimulate fibroblast proliferation, collagen, probiotic , and has lactic acid component

Always consult with a medical professional when having concerns about NBE and NBE supplements.

-More to follow-

[Lotus]

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[EllaC]

this is what I bloody need!
not that im allowed to import the sodding stuff. maybe you can buy it for me then forward it on as a gift from a friend in the US

[Lotus]

this is what I bloody need!
not that im allowed to import the sodding stuff. maybe you can buy it for me then forward it on as a gift from a friend in the US

Maybe Santa can bring it to you?,

[who_is_this_girl]

My opinion?, I'd advise against using PM, maybe in a few years sure revisit the idea. Pm has side effects, something caused that lump right?, so why take the risk. Seriously, please read the non-herbal NBE thread.

Thank you . But can I take Bustmaxx or Fenugreek ? I do not know if FG will cause cancer, which I hope it might not .

From what I've read Fenugreek protects against cancer. Bustmaxx has fenugreek, saw palmetto, fennel, wild yam, dong quai, blessed thistle, and damiana, PM?, I dunno. I didn't see the amounts of each, basically NBE products. Each herb would need careful research to evaluate any risks associated with known cancer risks.

All of these herbs have been linked in previous posts, if some of the links don't work pleas let me know. check Damiana.

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplement...=FENUGREEK

Does that mean I can take FG?　I check the website and there is no important side effects of that .Also, due to what I've read on Amazon, the feedback of Bustmaxx is quite good, I am thinking about trying that.

Dong quai might slow blood clotting. Taking dong quai along with medications that also slow clotting might increase the chances of bruising and bleeding. Same thing for saw palmetto, damiana might decrease blood sugar, other issues exist for PM and wild yam And not in a good way.
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WILD YAM SIDE EFFECTS & SAFETY
Wild yam is POSSIBLY SAFE when taken by mouth or applied to the skin. Large amounts can cause vomiting.

Special Precautions & Warnings:
Pregnancy and breast-feeding: There is not enough reliable information about the safety of taking wild yam if you are pregnant or breast feeding. Stay on the safe side and avoid use.

Hormone-sensitive condition such as breast cancer, uterine cancer, ovarian cancer, endometriosis, or uterine fibroids: Wild yam might act like estrogen. If you have any condition that might be made worse by exposure to estrogen, do not use wild yam.

Protein S deficiency: People with protein S deficiency have an increased risk of forming clots. There is some concern that wild yam might increase the risk of clot formation in these people because it might act like estrogen. There is one case report of a patient with protein S deficiency and systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) who developed a clot in the vein serving the retina in her eye 3 days after taking a combination product containing wild yam, dong quai, red clover, and black cohosh. If you have protein S deficiency, it is best to avoid using wild yam until more is known.

Fenugreek should be ok for this reason:

That sounds lllike everything is not complete safe . Is there any other safe drug recommended ?

[Lotus]

That's true, a certain risk will always be there. Best to check with your treating medical professional. Massage, healthy fats, suction, water, EFT tapping, subliminals, breathing techniques, vitamins and minerals, protein shakes are a good direction to start, some have had success without hormones or supplements. Topical oils go good with massage, MSM for collagen support, you might need a detox too. Look, the variables why you stopped growing can go back to puberty and possibly from genetics. The good news is that you can still do things naturally, but the bottom line is to check with a doctor on anything else.


Good luck.

[pom19]

That's true, a certain risk will always be there. Best to check with your treating medical professional. Massage, healthy fats, suction, water, EFT tapping, subliminals, breathing techniques, vitamins and minerals, protein shakes are a good direction to start, some have had success without hormones or supplements. Topical oils go good with massage, MSM for collagen support, you might need a detox too. Look, the variables why you stopped growing can go back to puberty and possibly from genetics. The good news is that you can still do things naturally, but the bottom line is to check with a doctor on anything else.


Good luck.

Well said Lotus. Pom

[who_is_this_girl]

That's true, a certain risk will always be there. Best to check with your treating medical professional. Massage, healthy fats, suction, water, EFT tapping, subliminals, breathing techniques, vitamins and minerals, protein shakes are a good direction to start, some have had success without hormones or supplements. Topical oils go good with massage, MSM for collagen support, you might need a detox too. Look, the variables why you stopped growing can go back to puberty and possibly from genetics. The good news is that you can still do things naturally, but the bottom line is to check with a doctor on anything else.


Good luck.

Thank you so much. Now I know where to start

[who_is_this_girl]

That's true, a certain risk will always be there. Best to check with your treating medical professional. Massage, healthy fats, suction, water, EFT tapping, subliminals, breathing techniques, vitamins and minerals, protein shakes are a good direction to start, some have had success without hormones or supplements. Topical oils go good with massage, MSM for collagen support, you might need a detox too. Look, the variables why you stopped growing can go back to puberty and possibly from genetics. The good news is that you can still do things naturally, but the bottom line is to check with a doctor on anything else.


Good luck.

Hey there. Forget to ask, can I use maca btw?