[EllaC]

Sorry Lotus but can you clarify what you meant by:

So many others to choose from also 5 ar's too....

[Lotus]

Sorry Lotus but can you clarify what you meant by:

So many others to choose from also 5 ar's too....

Sorry, it's an enzyme

5-ar or 5-alpha-reductase is most known for converting testosterone, the male sex hormone, into the more potent dihydrotestosterone:


The enzyme is produced in many tissues in both males and females, especially in the reproductive tract, testes and ovaries,[1] skin, seminal vesicles, prostate, epididymis and many organs,[2] including the Nervous System.[3][4] There are three isoenzymes of 5-alpha reductase: steroid 5α-reductase

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-alpha_reductase


Herbs that help block 5 ar, licorice, WP, Reishi, SP, pygeum , nettle root, BO (not an herb), Chinese Skullcap, there's more, even progesterone cream is a strong 5 ar.

[EllaC]

Thank you. Youve taught me another thing today

[peggy]

Ella, I am not sure. I read so many positive things about it (also regarding hair and nice skin) but on the other side there are almost no human studies and that's why I am scared.

I don't think that there will be any benefits for low doses between 100-400 mg regarding breast growth. Or what do you think Lotus?

[EllaC]

Ella, I am not sure. I read so many positive things about it (also regarding hair and nice skin) but on the other side there are almost no human studies and that's why I am scared.

I don't think that there will be any benefits for low doses between 100-400 mg regarding breast growth. Or what do you think Lotus?

Peggy I would think the same thing regards low dosages and breast growth. But I agree id love to try one day also a longggg way down the track.

You know I read that rats metabolize things differently and isn't refective of the same effects that would be had on humans. Id look into that at some point.. :s

[Lotus]

Ella, I am not sure. I read so many positive things about it (also regarding hair and nice skin) but on the other side there are almost no human studies and that's why I am scared.

I don't think that there will be any benefits for low doses between 100-400 mg regarding breast growth. Or what do you think Lotus?

Sorry, are we talking about PM?

[peggy]

Ella, I am not sure. I read so many positive things about it (also regarding hair and nice skin) but on the other side there are almost no human studies and that's why I am scared.

I don't think that there will be any benefits for low doses between 100-400 mg regarding breast growth. Or what do you think Lotus?

Sorry, are we talking about PM?

Yes

[Lotus]

Ella, I am not sure. I read so many positive things about it (also regarding hair and nice skin) but on the other side there are almost no human studies and that's why I am scared.

I don't think that there will be any benefits for low doses between 100-400 mg regarding breast growth. Or what do you think Lotus?

Sorry, are we talking about PM?

Yes

Well then, individually it will vary, by that I mean how your metabolism processes E, or in a sense, your diet as well. A diet with about 20-30 percent in healthy fats will be beneficial for your hormones and breast growth. Estrogen has to come more then just the ovaries, it's also in your fat and muscle tissue.

Remember, aromastase in females is converted just like in males but in a smaller amount (females produce 20 times less T then in men). Our sex hormones all start with cholesterol, so again!, diet is SO important, make sure that those healthy fats stay "at least" in the 20% range.

So what's the magic PM dosage?, it's tough to say, but you'd seriously have to be the one to judge that for yourself, sorry!

[peggy]

Well then, individually it will vary, by that I mean how your metabolism processes E, or in a sense, your diet as well. A diet with about 20-30 percent in healthy fats will be beneficial for your hormones and breast growth. Estrogen has to come more then just the ovaries, it's also in your fat and muscle tissue.

Remember, aromastase in females is converted just like in males but in a smaller amount (females produce 20 times less T then in men). Our sex hormones all start with cholesterol, so again!, diet is SO important, make sure that those healthy fats stay "at least" in the 20% range.

So what's the magic PM dosage?, it's tough to say, but you'd seriously have to be the one to judge that for yourself, sorry!

Thanks a lot for your answer Lotus.
My diet is fine, I am eating at least 30% healthy fats (avocado, nuts, seeds, coconut oil, olive oil). :-)

Yes I know you cannot give an advice about the PM dosage. I could start with 100-200 mg (which is a very low dose) and then observe if I get any positive or negative result.

What about you Ella, did you consider to take PM?

[EllaC]

Well then, individually it will vary, by that I mean how your metabolism processes E, or in a sense, your diet as well. A diet with about 20-30 percent in healthy fats will be beneficial for your hormones and breast growth. Estrogen has to come more then just the ovaries, it's also in your fat and muscle tissue.

Remember, aromastase in females is converted just like in males but in a smaller amount (females produce 20 times less T then in men). Our sex hormones all start with cholesterol, so again!, diet is SO important, make sure that those healthy fats stay "at least" in the 20% range.

So what's the magic PM dosage?, it's tough to say, but you'd seriously have to be the one to judge that for yourself, sorry!

Thanks a lot for your answer Lotus.
My diet is fine, I am eating at least 30% healthy fats (avocado, nuts, seeds, coconut oil, olive oil). :-)

Yes I know you cannot give an advice about the PM dosage. I could start with 100-200 mg (which is a very low dose) and then observe if I get any positive or negative result.

What about you Ella, did you consider to take PM?

Did/Have/Do consider Pm yes
But... it will be along time before I go down that road! Id rather take a lesser approach first then if that fails do what you'd suggest but starting low and working up. I too like that it is a longevity wonder herb first and foremost, the fact it has longevity benefits must mean it effects hgh in some capacity??? Maybe that's why it contributes to breast growth along with the phytoestrogens if you are massaging,noogling, bringing attention to the breasts - just my complicated way of viewing it..