[timarie]

I've always had symptoms that made me feel I may have high T levels. I took vitex but I believe it makes me break out so I had to find an alternative. Enter spearmint! I hope this works well!

My bf was going off on a tangent the other day about how vain people are who do ANY type of alteration to their body. Braces, hair transplants, these were some of the topics mentioned. This is why I can never tell him about NBE. He would probably be disgusted with me. He thinks we should be as natural as possible (which I more or less agree with too) and to just allow our bodies to unfold as they natural will as we age. Whatever! I feel your average guy has NO idea how much efforts your average female puts into her "natural" looks.

Good luck with the spearmint! I love it. It makes your breath smell nice. Haha.
And so true. I feel for you there. If my ex was talking like that, I would also keep it hidden from him! That is tough. My mother thinks I am so superficial because I enjoy "weird" things like this to improve on my appearance, but so what? Everyone has to have a guilty pleasure that makes them feel good. I think there is absolutely NO guilt or shame in what we are doing, because we are being completely natural about it, and everyone invests in themselves in one way or another. And this is our chosen route. I am not ashamed! Keep it up and keep strong girl
Maybe, after a long while he has been in love with your new breasts and you finish with NBE, you tell him your secret, and he'll feel torn-- he loves these new breasts, but it conflicts with his personal "beliefs"... as with every internal conflict, one has to go for the mind to be at peace. I assume he will not want to part with your breasts, so he will eventually come to embrace it and hopefully become understanding of it and maybe even impressed by your hard work!

[Jenniferlove]

So just a few updates. I received my spearmint tea in the mail. 4 oz. will last me a looonnnggg time! I wasn't expecting the bag to be so large! I always drink loose tea. I for whatever reason feel the quality is higher when it's loose vs. pre-bagged. I am a huge tea drinker/lover so was not worried about drinking enough of cups a day. I am, however, slightly turned off by the taste because it tastes exactly like spearmint gum! It reminds me of soaking gum in hot water, ew! I'm mixing it with other teas of mine which is making it more tolerable.

I've always had symptoms that made me feel I may have high T levels. I took vitex but I believe it makes me break out so I had to find an alternative. Enter spearmint! I hope this works well!

As for my symmetry issue, I have ONLY been noogling/massaging my smaller, defiant boob this month. I have paid zero attention to the larger. Man, if I had two boobs like my larger boob I would probably be a DD by now. It responds SO quickly! The smallest efforts make it bust up soooo fast. So that is that. I hope by the end of the month they will be more even. We will see!

My bf was going off on a tangent the other day about how vain people are who do ANY type of alteration to their body. Braces, hair transplants, these were some of the topics mentioned. This is why I can never tell him about NBE. He would probably be disgusted with me. He thinks we should be as natural as possible (which I more or less agree with too) and to just allow our bodies to unfold as they natural will as we age. Whatever! I feel your average guy has NO idea how much efforts your average female puts into her "natural" looks.

Wow Jen, NEVER tell him or let him find out. What strange one. Do you think he secretly suspects? And is maybe poking fun at you. Seriously, who goes off of a tangent like that???

Yeah, he's a strange one. I don't think he suspects, and I want to KEEP it that way! We just live in a highly superficial city (in the heart of it, aye) and I think these kinds of conversations are a little more normal out here. Everyone is aiming for beauty it seems and he's such a rebel going against it haha. He's just naturally beautiful though.

[Jenniferlove]

I've always had symptoms that made me feel I may have high T levels. I took vitex but I believe it makes me break out so I had to find an alternative. Enter spearmint! I hope this works well!

My bf was going off on a tangent the other day about how vain people are who do ANY type of alteration to their body. Braces, hair transplants, these were some of the topics mentioned. This is why I can never tell him about NBE. He would probably be disgusted with me. He thinks we should be as natural as possible (which I more or less agree with too) and to just allow our bodies to unfold as they natural will as we age. Whatever! I feel your average guy has NO idea how much efforts your average female puts into her "natural" looks.

Good luck with the spearmint! I love it. It makes your breath smell nice. Haha.
And so true. I feel for you there. If my ex was talking like that, I would also keep it hidden from him! That is tough. My mother thinks I am so superficial because I enjoy "weird" things like this to improve on my appearance, but so what? Everyone has to have a guilty pleasure that makes them feel good. I think there is absolutely NO guilt or shame in what we are doing, because we are being completely natural about it, and everyone invests in themselves in one way or another. And this is our chosen route. I am not ashamed! Keep it up and keep strong girl
Maybe, after a long while he has been in love with your new breasts and you finish with NBE, you tell him your secret, and he'll feel torn-- he loves these new breasts, but it conflicts with his personal "beliefs"... as with every internal conflict, one has to go for the mind to be at peace. I assume he will not want to part with your breasts, so he will eventually come to embrace it and hopefully become understanding of it and maybe even impressed by your hard work!

Yeah, not gonna tell him. It will be better for him to just think this is a natural growth spurt, which sooner or later I plan on blaming on my metabolism slowing down/me getting older.

[timarie]

Yeah, not gonna tell him. It will be better for him to just think this is a natural growth spurt, which sooner or later I plan on blaming on my metabolism slowing down/me getting older.

Wow, I can't keep secrets like that for long from my very close ones. I just don't see a point in keeping secrets from people who are very close to me, because that is their job to be understanding at least, supportive at best. And I wouldn't want them to keep stuff like that from me. After all, we are all different and no one sees eye-to-eye on everything, so the actual qualifying factor of being a best friend, loved one, or significant other, is to be understanding! Do you think he would never understand and come to appreciate? Oh well, do whatever you feel like you must do! I feel for you girl.

[myboobs]

I've always had symptoms that made me feel I may have high T levels. I took vitex but I believe it makes me break out so I had to find an alternative. Enter spearmint! I hope this works well!

My bf was going off on a tangent the other day about how vain people are who do ANY type of alteration to their body. Braces, hair transplants, these were some of the topics mentioned. This is why I can never tell him about NBE. He would probably be disgusted with me. He thinks we should be as natural as possible (which I more or less agree with too) and to just allow our bodies to unfold as they natural will as we age. Whatever! I feel your average guy has NO idea how much efforts your average female puts into her "natural" looks.

Good luck with the spearmint! I love it. It makes your breath smell nice. Haha.
And so true. I feel for you there. If my ex was talking like that, I would also keep it hidden from him! That is tough. My mother thinks I am so superficial because I enjoy "weird" things like this to improve on my appearance, but so what? Everyone has to have a guilty pleasure that makes them feel good. I think there is absolutely NO guilt or shame in what we are doing, because we are being completely natural about it, and everyone invests in themselves in one way or another. And this is our chosen route. I am not ashamed! Keep it up and keep strong girl
Maybe, after a long while he has been in love with your new breasts and you finish with NBE, you tell him your secret, and he'll feel torn-- he loves these new breasts, but it conflicts with his personal "beliefs"... as with every internal conflict, one has to go for the mind to be at peace. I assume he will not want to part with your breasts, so he will eventually come to embrace it and hopefully become understanding of it and maybe even impressed by your hard work!

Yeah, not gonna tell him. It will be better for him to just think this is a natural growth spurt, which sooner or later I plan on blaming on my metabolism slowing down/me getting older.

People exercise / eat right foods / do tai chi / yoga / tatoos / hairstyling / wearing nice clothes / shoes .... Are these not one form or other image enhancement ?

[Jenniferlove]

Wow, I can't keep secrets like that for long from my very close ones. I just don't see a point in keeping secrets from people who are very close to me, because that is their job to be understanding at least, supportive at best. And I wouldn't want them to keep stuff like that from me. After all, we are all different and no one sees eye-to-eye on everything, so the actual qualifying factor of being a best friend, loved one, or significant other, is to be understanding! Do you think he would never understand and come to appreciate? Oh well, do whatever you feel like you must do! I feel for you girl.

If he found out what I was doing I think he would probably just be highly concerned and wonder why I suffer from such low self-esteem to go to such measures. He would not understand that I just want to grow my boobs. It would just be an annoying mess that I would rather not deal with. Him and I are extremely open and close with one-another, but this is something that I feel is none of his business. I have told no one, and I plan to keep it that way.

People exercise / eat right foods / do tai chi / yoga / tatoos / hairstyling / wearing nice clothes / shoes .... Are these not one form or other image enhancement ?

He's not talking about those types of things. More like surgeries to keep up with one's beauty. It all started with him saying that he's getting a receding hairline and I suggested a hair transplant down the line if he ever went bald. That got him going off on that topic. He hates breast implants, all those types of extremes for vanity. He thinks there's just too far of an emphasis on beauty that it has gone to unnatural extremes. And he's completely correct. What we are doing is "natural" but still not actually. We are forcing our boobs to grow. I get where he's coming from and respect it. Technically I am going against our belief which is why it's best to keep this secret.

[pom19]

Well, if you are after a long term relationship, then this principle applies:
No secret between partners.
I also agree with you jennifer that he is a nice guy based on his belief. I believe NBE is natural though, it is using the law of Alchemy.

[Jenniferlove]

Well, if you are after a long term relationship, then this principle applies:
No secret between partners.
I also agree with you jennifer that he is a nice guy based on his belief. I believe NBE is natural though, it is using the law of Alchemy.

I agree with you....up to this point. If he was trying to grow his peen I would react the same way he probably would with me. And no matter what I might say, I would think differently of him. That is a very low place to go--as am I with what I am doing. If he was doing some form of penis enlargement, I would respect if he wanted to keep it secret for the probable shame that must come attached with such a routine.

So basically, NBE is just one of those things that within our relationship is best left alone---behind the curtains in the dark.

[EllaC]

Well I think all you have done is nurture you're body to enhance you to your full potential. And this clearly is your full "natural" potential.
You didn't buy or pay for these boobs you have now, it was in YOU the whole time,.. you just needed to make some natural adjustments or balance your body out if you will to bring them out. As with the rest of us. They aren't brought and paid for! Or Vain! They are YOURS and he loves them
I totally get why you wont tell him and neither would I tell mine (although hes caught me too many times now id be a fool to think he doesn't already know!)

But ps I'd run with this if he ever finds out!

[roseblossom]

What we are doing is "natural" but still not actually. We are forcing our boobs to grow. I get where he's coming from and respect it. Technically I am going against our belief which is why it's best to keep this secret.

Hmm, maybe this is my way of justifying myself, but I don't think NBE is not natural. You use your own body and natural ingredients to change. However, this is why I'm personally uncomfortable with using a pump: a machine (of a sort) is required for breast growth. If any aspect of NBE could be argued as unnatural, it would be pumps.

NBE, in my eyes, is no different from muscle building or exercise to change other parts of your body. You are forcing your muscles to grow. Is that unnatural?

Oh yeah, aren't there natural treatments for baldness? He might not be able to grow it back, but I think he can halt hair loss with herbs.

If I had a boyfriend or husband, I would ask him to do the massages for me.