[girlfriday29]

hey searching - I'm 28" underbust and there is no way I can get both large cups on my chest.... breasts or no breasts.

If I had known that I would have just purchased one!

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that sucks!
so i guess weare both stuck with noogling with the mediums and using the large one at a time but honestly that just takes just so much time and you cant just leave them on and do other things. i wish lucy would make cups that were medium size in width and larger size in length so us smaller ribcager girls could use em

oh well, i guess i dont have to worry about getting 2 larges anymore, i did not get that kinda swelling on my left boob again, i guess i just got lucky that time, tried moving it in all possible directions, but they just didnt swell, and when i pumped too hard it started hurting. so just pumping with mediums right now, atleast they dont lose suction fast.

today's update: before noogling, 31.6
after noogling 32.

[girlfriday29]

I know, it takes forever! I'm so glad I'm on a noogling break!

Don't worry if you have set backs, its just part of the noogling journey. If you track your progress against your cycle then you may find that similar swelling good or bad occurs at different times of your cycle.

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Thanks girlfriday,
you are right about the noogling, i guess i am just feeling down because even the herbal routine isnt doing much for me right now, its been around 3 months or so that i havent seen any growth or improvement. i am stuck for a month now ssince i have a month's supplements with me. but i am thinking to switch over to BO after a month if i still dont see any changes.
am just daunted by the thought of the super long period of research that i'll have to do because i just have no idea what's involved, what works for wat, which company is cheaper.... arghhh!

I am just gonna order two months worth of BO in dec, and if i dont see any difference after two months with BO, am just gonna leave all the routines and stick to noogling from time to time

[girlfriday29]

well from what I gather, Swansons BO range is among the cheapest along with Ultra Breast. But alot of people don't want to take Ultra breast because of one of the ingredients (can't remember which), which some have said have caused them Gastro problems...

Have a look at my program for some info on the supplments I'm taking (although in saying that, perhaps we should wait to see if it actually works first!! hehe)
Other people are superboob, just4fun, belalilly, crystalelle, 11bhot, twistermama, who have programs of BO.

I guess the thing with the herbs is that you are meant to do it for at least a few months to see results.... same with BO. you are meant to be on that for about 3-4 months too. I kept getting lots of tingles on herbs, but then no growth that lasted.... with BO I am getting more deep aches and pains, and its too early to say anything yet as I've only been doing it for nearly 2 weeks...

Some people reakon that noogleberry takes about 6-12 months to see results... so its pretty long term timeframes that we're talking about here...

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Hi girlfriday,

I read your program carefully and i must say am kinda becoming a fan of it it seems very well put together and well researched too. Hope u get great results with it
The thing is i read someone's post cant remember whose who suggested the vitacost website, went there but their BO has uterus and such, like not just plain BO, which sort of sucks cuz their products were really cheap. I think i might just go with swansons when i do go for BO program. I read twistermama's too, she seems to have had great results! am jealous now hehe....
I think most of the members who have had great results belong to the BO side, thats kinda encouraging too. The problem with herbs is that its mostly water retention, so lets say i do get lucky and get some growth there is a good chance i will lose it again. Plus because of water retention am gaining weight in other places like my tummy, and SP is making me get cellulite on my hips n thighs

[girlfriday29]

yeah, I even got a bit of cellulite from the SP and I wasn't even taking that much per day, AND I'm ultra skinny! Lucky its all gone again. Looked a bit random.

Thanks, well I guess the proof will be in the pudding - i.e. if I see results! I devised my new program from looking at the programs of some of the other ladies. One thing I haven't quite got right at the moment, is the whole timing thing. Its hard to take so many pills when some of them require an hour before eating, and others require you to take them without other pills etc. And obviously a big thing is getting the temperature up. My temp is still low so I have to keep working out ways to increase it. I need to spend some more time on that Dr Rind site because that is an awesome website.

Anyhow, good luck with devising a program. Let me know if you have any questions. And if you come across any good ideas!

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SP gave u cellulite too? and it went away once u stopped? hmm maybe there is some hope for me then. i got palmer's cocoa butter for stretch marks but i never really used it, i have some stretch marks, maybe it will help with the cellulite too.

I am thinking of taking thyroid glandular as well, becuz i read someone on the forum say that thyroid and adrenal usually go hand in hand. did you consider the thyroid as well? the way am thinking, theres no harm in trying, if nothing else it will improve my thyroid function. but the price is a bummer, $10 just for that, but am thinking i can just take it in small doses. wow i worked out the price on the swanson website and from the looks of it my program is gonna cost around $50 per month wish i would win the lottery or something, hehe.....

i know am gonna mess up on the timing for sure! i take my pills all at once and even then i sometimes forget one, or forget to take the whole batch entirely, but that only happens when am in a rush.
its around day 14/15 for me right now, so i guess am in the luteal phase, gonna see how the swelling is this month, hopefully i will get lucky, the thing is i get tingles and itchiness sometimes, but it is not translating into any growth, and am even taking 1000 mg EPO and 1000 mg Flaxseed oil 3 times a day.

[girlfriday29]

yep, I have only ever had a very slight amount of celullite, but after SP I noticed that it increase LOTS. But now its back to normal.

I had a quick look at the Dr Rind site again and it mentions that its better to do stuff for your adrenals first, and then work on your thyroid later. There is a long explanation about how some people have problems with one or the other, and if you fix one but not the other then you can exacerbate the other etc... so have a look at that. It may pay to not take the thyroid stuff first like the site recommends. This is all new territory for me, so I don't have any knowledge about it, so perhaps just do some more research on that area.

Why do you think you need stuff for your thyroid?

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i feel sluggish and low energy all day even when i have caffeine, thats why i thought maybe its the thyroid, but thats just one of the symptoms of hypothyroid, i dont think its enough to go on.... but like i said i read someone on the forum mention that adrenal and thyroid go together, thats what made me jump on the bandwagon for including both but in hindsight that is probably not a good idea, and right now its like shooting in the dark with the guesses because i havent even started taking my temperature. i asked my mom for the thermometer yesterday and she just came and felt my forehead n said "you are fine, you dont have any fever" and i was like ooooh now how do i explain to her.... moms are like that sometimes lol. i dont wanna tell her about BO yet, because my family is starting to think that am wasting money and risking my health on long term basis. hopefully when i do start measuring my temperature i will find out that my thyroid is fine and i dont have to buy those expensive pills