[esther85]

Suri you are an angel!! This helps a lot.

I will start researching biotics better now. Because I have no idea if it is good/safe etc. But I guess ovaries is ovaries right

Only contains 150 mg, and a bottle of 60 pills is around 28 dollars. So it is kind of expensive. But a lot better than ordering from US and risking that I will never get the package.

I would have never found this myself, so thanks again Suri.

[Anastasia916]

Actually ovaries aren't ovaries, you want to beware of BO from China cows as they are said to have mad cow disease. BB says theirs come from New Zealand or Argentina I believe and UB come from US cows. Just be careful. And yes $28 for only 60 caps and only 150mg is very expensive. With that to get the right amount of BO for NBE you would need to take at least 10 caps per day! That means that bottle will only last a week. Would it help you to get through customs if I ordered it for you and got it sent to me then I sent it to you? Or do they check every package?

[Suri]

Esther, that's great but yea they are a bit too expensive I guess.:s You would certainly be better off to order some BO through Anastasia.

Concerning safety Biotics is an American product and I read somewhere that it's supposedly safe (BSE wise). I think you would get the BO past customs if you mark it as a gift and as low value. But I'm not living in the Netherlands and it might be slightly different there (though I don't think so). Maybe you could try sending an empty bottle with placebos and if it gets past customs you could oder the real stuff.

[esther85]

First of all Anastacia, thank you for your kind offer!! I think it is very sweet of you girl! I am not sure if it would work. Probably, as Suri also says, labeling it as a gift and low value would help. Still, if they would suspect it were pills they would maybe check it weren't drugs haha!

And yeah, you are right, I already emailed the company asking for more info about where the cows are from. (I was actually joking about the 'ovaries are ovaries' )

I checked the other sites Suri mentioned and found them for 20 dollars..still a lot of money I know! When I know more about the BSE thing I might try one Biotics to see if my body can even handle this stuff (I am very sensitive to all kinds of hormones). And after that decide what I want to do. You know, with certain kinds of medication, I usually need a lot less than other people for it to work, don't know why. Maybe cuz I am half Asian?? Apparently I lack certain enzymes or something..to break down meds and thus need less of it and it still works (sorry for this poor explanation)

I am still debating haha. Anyways, for now I stick to my progesterone cream to balance my hormones and kill endometriosis...but in the mean time I do my thorough research for when I start my actual NBE program

[CousinRose]

You are so sensible Esther, having the patience to wait to start the programme Way to go!!

I just sent a post to the costoms, from a fake email I just made I asked about the Swanson product, since they are very highly garded I find it liklier that their products will go through and it is cheaper.

I think glandular therapy is my best chance along with suction because I used to have a mild form of tubular breast (before Brava) and that is because to little milk glands. I have been worried if I will be able to breastfeed in the future, and am wondering if BO will work for me if it will increase my chances.

[esther85]

CousinRose what a good idea to use a fake email! Unfortunately over here we can only call customs by phone I am pretty curious what they will say though.

You know, I was actually thinking the same thing about the Swanson glandulars. I wouldn't mind risking customs for that little money. And since the value of the imported package won't be that high, there will probably not be too many extra taxes. But for now I still have to be patient:angel: In the mean time just massaging, eating better and exercising! And researching ofcourse

[hopeful31]

Hi cousinrose, I'm using brava, just started using BO and also have a mild case of tuberous breast... Since tuberous breast is a development issue (or lack of) and BO tricks your body into believe you are in puberty again it may help complete the breast development . At least that's what I'm hoping for!

Also, I have a question for you, I feel like my areolas are getting bigger, did you experience this too? Were you able to tape them? I always end up with painful blisters where the tape gets in contact with the skin I tried 2 types (nexcare gentle paper tape and nexcare waterproof flexible tape) of tapes and band aids but nothing seems to work.

[CousinRose]

Hey hopeful, yes it is the same thing as I am hoping for I think we have a big change on this working for us, if it doesn't we always have the suction option

My areolas did probably grow some with my breasts but less than my breasts did. Mine have always been large and a little puffy when relaxed but it looks so much better on B/C cups than on A's. Do you think the BO has a chance to improve the puffiness since it is a sign of underdevelopment?

I never used any taping but I remember from old threads that taping alone did never work. Some girls used round cotton buds and taped over it with band - aids. Some used some type of nipple covers and taped them down. Take a look at the archives in the older forum, it was discussed a lot there.

[hopeful31]

I guess I'll try not to stress out about the areolas :-/ and it's great to know that the suction helped with the shape, I've been crossing my fingers for that since there isn't much info about t-breast... Anyway I think BO can help with the puffiness to some degree specially if taken in conjunction with a tissue expander (like brava) since the problem is the tissue constriction which herniates into the soft areola tissue... Let's give it a try

[CousinRose]

I just found out that BO is illegal in my country However I am moving more south in the continent this fall so I am planning on starting using it then!! Let me know how it works for you hopeful. So nice having someone in similar shoes (bras)